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Great Caesar's Ghost! Gallup finds 1 in 3 Americans Believe Houses Can Be Haunted

By E&P Staff

Published: July 12, 2005 1:15 PM ET

NEW YORK Gallup reports today that its latest poll found that one in three Americans ?believe in ghosts.? The numbers: 32% of all adults say they believe that ?ghosts/spirits of dead people can come back,? while 48% do not, and 19% are unsure.

An even larger number of Americans believe that houses can be haunted, with 37% holding that position, 46% saying no, and 16% not sure.

There's an ideological twist, with 42% of liberals saying they believe in ghosts--but only 25% of conservatives and 35% of moderates saying this.

Belief in ghosts declines with age, with 45 of those 18 to 29 sticking to that, while only 22% of those 65 and over holding that view.

The poll was based on interviews with 1,002 adults, with a plus or minus 3% sampling error.
The breakdown by ideological bent is pretty surprising, or maybe not.

Somehow it doesn't surprise me that so many liberals have the highest percentage of belief in apparitions and wisps of smoke. ;)

Personally I don't believe in ghosts or hauntings or any of the occult claims. What about you?
 

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Wow. What an asshat. "liberals have the highest percentage of belief in apparitions and wisps of smoke."

Think about what an atheist would say about all the conservative Christians, believing in an invisible man. How stupid/ignorant/asshat-ish would you think that atheist is?

Exactly.
 
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Originally posted by: NJDevil
Wow. What an asshat. "liberals have the highest percentage of belief in apparitions and wisps of smoke."

Think about what an atheist would say about all the conservative Christians, believing in an invisible man. How stupid/ignorant/asshat-ish would you think that atheist is?

Exactly.
Are you trying to claim that ghosts are a Liberal religious belief?

And, btw, I'd agree with the atheist, as I don't believe in a god and I'm not a christian, conservative or otherwise.

 

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: NJDevil
Wow. What an asshat. "liberals have the highest percentage of belief in apparitions and wisps of smoke."

Think about what an atheist would say about all the conservative Christians, believing in an invisible man. How stupid/ignorant/asshat-ish would you think that atheist is?

Exactly.
Are you trying to claim that ghosts are a Liberal religious belief?

And, btw, I'd agree with the atheist, as I don't believe in a god and I'm not a christian, conservative or otherwise.

I'm taking you don't read too much, as your comprehension is clearly lacking.

Yes, I said ghosts are a liberal religious belief /sarcasm

I'm saying that think about someone posting a link that says more republicans believe in God. That person says, "Yea! Repugs/republocons, neocons, etc are t3h stupid!! They believe in invisible men! It doesn't surprise me that ignorant red-stated inbreeding nascar watching, trailer park living republicans believe in invisible men"

Think about your reaction to someone saying that, and maybe next time, you can have the good sense not to post something as moronic as you just did.

Man oh man, reading this forum makes me think of Carlin/Chris Rock.

Carlin: "Some people don't want you to say this. Some people don't want you to say that. Some people think that if you mention certain things they might happen. Some people are really f'ing stupid. There's a lot of stupid bastards running around. Think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize that half of them are stupider than that"

Chris Rock: "Republicans are f'ing idiots. Democrats are f'ing idiots. Anyone who makes up their mind before they hear the issue is a fool."

Try listening to some entertaining and thought provoking comedians before you post.
 

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
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Great Caesar's Ghost! Gallup finds 1 in 3 Americans Believe Houses Can Be Haunted

By E&P Staff

Published: July 12, 2005 1:15 PM ET

NEW YORK Gallup reports today that its latest poll found that one in three Americans ?believe in ghosts.? The numbers: 32% of all adults say they believe that ?ghosts/spirits of dead people can come back,? while 48% do not, and 19% are unsure.

An even larger number of Americans believe that houses can be haunted, with 37% holding that position, 46% saying no, and 16% not sure.

There's an ideological twist, with 42% of liberals saying they believe in ghosts--but only 25% of conservatives and 35% of moderates saying this.

Belief in ghosts declines with age, with 45 of those 18 to 29 sticking to that, while only 22% of those 65 and over holding that view.

The poll was based on interviews with 1,002 adults, with a plus or minus 3% sampling error.
The breakdown by ideological bent is pretty surprising, or maybe not.

Somehow it doesn't surprise me that so many liberals have the highest percentage of belief in apparitions and wisps of smoke. ;)

Personally I don't believe in ghosts or hauntings or any of the occult claims. What about you?

"Belief in ghosts declines with age" - this would largely contribute to more liberals believing in ghosts as it seems that more young people are liberal. Perhaps doing this study on an age by age basis would be more telling of what's really going on.
 

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
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Great Caesar's Ghost! Gallup finds 1 in 3 Americans Believe Houses Can Be Haunted

By E&P Staff

Published: July 12, 2005 1:15 PM ET

NEW YORK Gallup reports today that its latest poll found that one in three Americans ?believe in ghosts.? The numbers: 32% of all adults say they believe that ?ghosts/spirits of dead people can come back,? while 48% do not, and 19% are unsure.

An even larger number of Americans believe that houses can be haunted, with 37% holding that position, 46% saying no, and 16% not sure.

There's an ideological twist, with 42% of liberals saying they believe in ghosts--but only 25% of conservatives and 35% of moderates saying this.

Belief in ghosts declines with age, with 45 of those 18 to 29 sticking to that, while only 22% of those 65 and over holding that view.

The poll was based on interviews with 1,002 adults, with a plus or minus 3% sampling error.
The breakdown by ideological bent is pretty surprising, or maybe not.

Somehow it doesn't surprise me that so many liberals have the highest percentage of belief in apparitions and wisps of smoke. ;)

Personally I don't believe in ghosts or hauntings or any of the occult claims. What about you?

Funny, I could have sworn that 99% of Republicans believe in a spook in the sky. Same kind of foolish superstition.
 
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Originally posted by: NJDevil
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: NJDevil
Wow. What an asshat. "liberals have the highest percentage of belief in apparitions and wisps of smoke."

Think about what an atheist would say about all the conservative Christians, believing in an invisible man. How stupid/ignorant/asshat-ish would you think that atheist is?

Exactly.
Are you trying to claim that ghosts are a Liberal religious belief?

And, btw, I'd agree with the atheist, as I don't believe in a god and I'm not a christian, conservative or otherwise.

I'm taking you don't read too much, as your comprehension is clearly lacking.

Yes, I said ghosts are a liberal religious belief /sarcasm

I'm saying that think about someone posting a link that says more republicans believe in God. That person says, "Yea! Repugs/republocons, neocons, etc are t3h stupid!! They believe in invisible men! It doesn't surprise me that ignorant red-stated inbreeding nascar watching, trailer park living republicans believe in invisible men"

Think about your reaction to someone saying that, and maybe next time, you can have the good sense not to post something as moronic as you just did.

Man oh man, reading this forum makes me think of Carlin/Chris Rock.

Carlin: "Some people don't want you to say this. Some people don't want you to say that. Some people think that if you mention certain things they might happen. Some people are really f'ing stupid. There's a lot of stupid bastards running around. Think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize that half of them are stupider than that"

Chris Rock: "Republicans are f'ing idiots. Democrats are f'ing idiots. Anyone who makes up their mind before they hear the issue is a fool."

Try listening to some entertaining and thought provoking comedians before you post.
Boo(heh)-hoo. Take your dishonest whine somewhere else.

How many posts have we had in here concerning what those 'ignant' red-staters, conservatives, or Christians think or believe? When that Pew study came out about how more conervatives believed Saddam was involved in 9/11, the liberals couldn't restrain themselves in here from running straight in here and pointing it out with numerous topics on that issue and frequent regurgitations of that point, all with an implied wink and a nudge of 'Look how stupid they are.'

The point is all kinds of people believe all kinds of stupid and ignorant things. Don't like that point? Too bad.

 

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This information is less than surprising. Christianity is the most common religion in the United States. Christianity teaches that the dead are dead until the resurrection, and their teachings are that the dead cannot hear or speak. It is the same for Muslims in that Allah himself stated "And you cannot make those to hear who are in their graves."

The two largest religions of the world do not support "Ghosts", so it is not a wonder that the Conservatives, who are for the most part more religious, don't often belive in Ghosts.

Nice to see someone spent alot of time researching and polling for what common sense already knew.
 

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: NJDevil
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: NJDevil
Wow. What an asshat. "liberals have the highest percentage of belief in apparitions and wisps of smoke."

Think about what an atheist would say about all the conservative Christians, believing in an invisible man. How stupid/ignorant/asshat-ish would you think that atheist is?

Exactly.
Are you trying to claim that ghosts are a Liberal religious belief?

And, btw, I'd agree with the atheist, as I don't believe in a god and I'm not a christian, conservative or otherwise.

I'm taking you don't read too much, as your comprehension is clearly lacking.

Yes, I said ghosts are a liberal religious belief /sarcasm

I'm saying that think about someone posting a link that says more republicans believe in God. That person says, "Yea! Repugs/republocons, neocons, etc are t3h stupid!! They believe in invisible men! It doesn't surprise me that ignorant red-stated inbreeding nascar watching, trailer park living republicans believe in invisible men"

Think about your reaction to someone saying that, and maybe next time, you can have the good sense not to post something as moronic as you just did.

Man oh man, reading this forum makes me think of Carlin/Chris Rock.

Carlin: "Some people don't want you to say this. Some people don't want you to say that. Some people think that if you mention certain things they might happen. Some people are really f'ing stupid. There's a lot of stupid bastards running around. Think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize that half of them are stupider than that"

Chris Rock: "Republicans are f'ing idiots. Democrats are f'ing idiots. Anyone who makes up their mind before they hear the issue is a fool."

Try listening to some entertaining and thought provoking comedians before you post.
Boo(heh)-hoo. Take your dishonest whine somewhere else.

How many posts have we had in here concerning what those 'ignant' red-staters, conservatives, or Christians think or believe? When that Pew study came out about how more conervatives believed Saddam was involved in 9/11, the liberals couldn't restrain themselves in here from running straight in here and pointing it out with numerous topics on that issue and frequent regurgitations of that point, all with an implied wink and a nudge of 'Look how stupid they are.'

The point is all kinds of people believe all kinds of stupid and ignorant things. Don't like that point? Too bad.

When did I ever say that calling people ignant red staters was good? Have you ever seen me defend that sort of accusation, ever? You're allowed to bring up what liberals/conservatives believe in politically, as that actually makes sense. Liberals are more pro-choice than conservatives. Studies show this, that's fine. Liberals are more likely to want universal healthcare provided by the state, that's true. Conservatives are more likely to cut taxes, all accurate points.

When you say something like, "no surprise that liberals believe in apparitions," you're not only bringing up a stupid, irrelevant point, but you're also showing your ignorance. More conservatives believe in God, who some would argue is a figment of our imagination (i'm not arguing that). So who really believes in apparitions? I don't know. I don't care. It's irrelevant and you've got some issues if you think that a study like this can define an entire group of people.
 
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Originally posted by: NJDevil
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: NJDevil
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: NJDevil
Wow. What an asshat. "liberals have the highest percentage of belief in apparitions and wisps of smoke."

Think about what an atheist would say about all the conservative Christians, believing in an invisible man. How stupid/ignorant/asshat-ish would you think that atheist is?

Exactly.
Are you trying to claim that ghosts are a Liberal religious belief?

And, btw, I'd agree with the atheist, as I don't believe in a god and I'm not a christian, conservative or otherwise.

I'm taking you don't read too much, as your comprehension is clearly lacking.

Yes, I said ghosts are a liberal religious belief /sarcasm

I'm saying that think about someone posting a link that says more republicans believe in God. That person says, "Yea! Repugs/republocons, neocons, etc are t3h stupid!! They believe in invisible men! It doesn't surprise me that ignorant red-stated inbreeding nascar watching, trailer park living republicans believe in invisible men"

Think about your reaction to someone saying that, and maybe next time, you can have the good sense not to post something as moronic as you just did.

Man oh man, reading this forum makes me think of Carlin/Chris Rock.

Carlin: "Some people don't want you to say this. Some people don't want you to say that. Some people think that if you mention certain things they might happen. Some people are really f'ing stupid. There's a lot of stupid bastards running around. Think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize that half of them are stupider than that"

Chris Rock: "Republicans are f'ing idiots. Democrats are f'ing idiots. Anyone who makes up their mind before they hear the issue is a fool."

Try listening to some entertaining and thought provoking comedians before you post.
Boo(heh)-hoo. Take your dishonest whine somewhere else.

How many posts have we had in here concerning what those 'ignant' red-staters, conservatives, or Christians think or believe? When that Pew study came out about how more conervatives believed Saddam was involved in 9/11, the liberals couldn't restrain themselves in here from running straight in here and pointing it out with numerous topics on that issue and frequent regurgitations of that point, all with an implied wink and a nudge of 'Look how stupid they are.'

The point is all kinds of people believe all kinds of stupid and ignorant things. Don't like that point? Too bad.

When did I ever say that calling people ignant red staters was good? Have you ever seen me defend that sort of accusation, ever?
When did you rail against it, as you're doing to me now? What compelled you to finally speak up in my thread?

You're allowed to bring up what liberals/conservatives believe in politically, as that actually makes sense. Liberals are more pro-choice than conservatives. Studies show this, that's fine. Liberals are more likely to want universal healthcare provided by the state, that's true. Conservatives are more likely to cut taxes, all accurate points.

When you say something like, "no surprise that liberals believe in apparitions," you're not only bringing up a stupid, irrelevant point, but you're also showing your ignorance. More conservatives believe in God, who some would argue is a figment of our imagination (i'm not arguing that). So who really believes in apparitions? I don't know. I don't care. It's irrelevant and you've got some issues if you think that a study like this can define an entire group of people.
The study doesn't define an entire group of people. It defines subgroups of people within various major groupings.

If you don't care who believes in apparitions, then why are you even bothering to reply?
 

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The human mind has powers that ordinary people can't even begin to imagine and numbers of these are closely related to instinct, intuition, and feel. There are major difference between the ways liberals and conservatives use their brain capacity.

Conservatives are, generally speaking of course in all of this, black and white thinkers who are right hemisphere dominant, goal and action oriented, and of course conformist.
They favor the side of the brain associated with the literal male.

Liberals generally speaking are more left brained, holistic thinkers, people who see patterns in things and make cognitive connections. They are less literal and more artistic, and more open to inner feeling. They are less conformist and well, what they are named for, liberal. Liberals are more open to the female.

So when some psychic phenomena, some hidden human capacity surfaces in these two general groups the reactions tend to vary. A conservative, used in general to ignoring out of bias, his feelings, will not notice or deny such feelings. A liberal will be less likely to deny them but have a greater tendency to associate them with other known things.

Ghosts are one of the phenomena everybody knows about and so the liberals with greater openness to their hidden talents will be more likely to be the ones to misdiagnose their surfacing incorrectly, if of course, there aren't any ghosts. There aren't any ghosts, are there?
 

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Of course liberals believe in ghosts. Look at all the voting fraud where they tried to get the recently deceased to vote for Kerry!
 

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: NJDevil
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: NJDevil
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: NJDevil
Wow. What an asshat. "liberals have the highest percentage of belief in apparitions and wisps of smoke."

Think about what an atheist would say about all the conservative Christians, believing in an invisible man. How stupid/ignorant/asshat-ish would you think that atheist is?

Exactly.
Are you trying to claim that ghosts are a Liberal religious belief?

And, btw, I'd agree with the atheist, as I don't believe in a god and I'm not a christian, conservative or otherwise.

I'm taking you don't read too much, as your comprehension is clearly lacking.

Yes, I said ghosts are a liberal religious belief /sarcasm

I'm saying that think about someone posting a link that says more republicans believe in God. That person says, "Yea! Repugs/republocons, neocons, etc are t3h stupid!! They believe in invisible men! It doesn't surprise me that ignorant red-stated inbreeding nascar watching, trailer park living republicans believe in invisible men"

Think about your reaction to someone saying that, and maybe next time, you can have the good sense not to post something as moronic as you just did.

Man oh man, reading this forum makes me think of Carlin/Chris Rock.

Carlin: "Some people don't want you to say this. Some people don't want you to say that. Some people think that if you mention certain things they might happen. Some people are really f'ing stupid. There's a lot of stupid bastards running around. Think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize that half of them are stupider than that"

Chris Rock: "Republicans are f'ing idiots. Democrats are f'ing idiots. Anyone who makes up their mind before they hear the issue is a fool."

Try listening to some entertaining and thought provoking comedians before you post.
Boo(heh)-hoo. Take your dishonest whine somewhere else.

How many posts have we had in here concerning what those 'ignant' red-staters, conservatives, or Christians think or believe? When that Pew study came out about how more conervatives believed Saddam was involved in 9/11, the liberals couldn't restrain themselves in here from running straight in here and pointing it out with numerous topics on that issue and frequent regurgitations of that point, all with an implied wink and a nudge of 'Look how stupid they are.'

The point is all kinds of people believe all kinds of stupid and ignorant things. Don't like that point? Too bad.

When did I ever say that calling people ignant red staters was good? Have you ever seen me defend that sort of accusation, ever?
When did you rail against it, as you're doing to me now? What compelled you to finally speak up in my thread?

You're allowed to bring up what liberals/conservatives believe in politically, as that actually makes sense. Liberals are more pro-choice than conservatives. Studies show this, that's fine. Liberals are more likely to want universal healthcare provided by the state, that's true. Conservatives are more likely to cut taxes, all accurate points.

When you say something like, "no surprise that liberals believe in apparitions," you're not only bringing up a stupid, irrelevant point, but you're also showing your ignorance. More conservatives believe in God, who some would argue is a figment of our imagination (i'm not arguing that). So who really believes in apparitions? I don't know. I don't care. It's irrelevant and you've got some issues if you think that a study like this can define an entire group of people.
The study doesn't define an entire group of people. It defines subgroups of people within various major groupings.

If you don't care who believes in apparitions, then why are you even bothering to reply?

Take a look at BBond's thread with the all caps comment. For an example of when I've "railed" against someone who does that. Same with one of Conjur's threads.

I'm bothering to reply because these generalizations based on a stupid survey done by people like yourself are just plain moronic. What's the point of saying, "no surprise that liberals belive in ghosts, they are so stupid!" Helps you sleep at night? That your POV is right?

I don't get the idea that one side is always correct, and that the other side must be ridiculed in order for you to feel satisfied.
 
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Originally posted by: NJDevil
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: NJDevil
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: NJDevil
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: NJDevil
Wow. What an asshat. "liberals have the highest percentage of belief in apparitions and wisps of smoke."

Think about what an atheist would say about all the conservative Christians, believing in an invisible man. How stupid/ignorant/asshat-ish would you think that atheist is?

Exactly.
Are you trying to claim that ghosts are a Liberal religious belief?

And, btw, I'd agree with the atheist, as I don't believe in a god and I'm not a christian, conservative or otherwise.

I'm taking you don't read too much, as your comprehension is clearly lacking.

Yes, I said ghosts are a liberal religious belief /sarcasm

I'm saying that think about someone posting a link that says more republicans believe in God. That person says, "Yea! Repugs/republocons, neocons, etc are t3h stupid!! They believe in invisible men! It doesn't surprise me that ignorant red-stated inbreeding nascar watching, trailer park living republicans believe in invisible men"

Think about your reaction to someone saying that, and maybe next time, you can have the good sense not to post something as moronic as you just did.

Man oh man, reading this forum makes me think of Carlin/Chris Rock.

Carlin: "Some people don't want you to say this. Some people don't want you to say that. Some people think that if you mention certain things they might happen. Some people are really f'ing stupid. There's a lot of stupid bastards running around. Think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize that half of them are stupider than that"

Chris Rock: "Republicans are f'ing idiots. Democrats are f'ing idiots. Anyone who makes up their mind before they hear the issue is a fool."

Try listening to some entertaining and thought provoking comedians before you post.
Boo(heh)-hoo. Take your dishonest whine somewhere else.

How many posts have we had in here concerning what those 'ignant' red-staters, conservatives, or Christians think or believe? When that Pew study came out about how more conervatives believed Saddam was involved in 9/11, the liberals couldn't restrain themselves in here from running straight in here and pointing it out with numerous topics on that issue and frequent regurgitations of that point, all with an implied wink and a nudge of 'Look how stupid they are.'

The point is all kinds of people believe all kinds of stupid and ignorant things. Don't like that point? Too bad.

When did I ever say that calling people ignant red staters was good? Have you ever seen me defend that sort of accusation, ever?
When did you rail against it, as you're doing to me now? What compelled you to finally speak up in my thread?

You're allowed to bring up what liberals/conservatives believe in politically, as that actually makes sense. Liberals are more pro-choice than conservatives. Studies show this, that's fine. Liberals are more likely to want universal healthcare provided by the state, that's true. Conservatives are more likely to cut taxes, all accurate points.

When you say something like, "no surprise that liberals believe in apparitions," you're not only bringing up a stupid, irrelevant point, but you're also showing your ignorance. More conservatives believe in God, who some would argue is a figment of our imagination (i'm not arguing that). So who really believes in apparitions? I don't know. I don't care. It's irrelevant and you've got some issues if you think that a study like this can define an entire group of people.
The study doesn't define an entire group of people. It defines subgroups of people within various major groupings.

If you don't care who believes in apparitions, then why are you even bothering to reply?

Take a look at BBond's thread with the all caps comment. For an example of when I've "railed" against someone who does that. Same with one of Conjur's threads.

I'm bothering to reply because these generalizations based on a stupid survey done by people like yourself are just plain moronic. What's the point of saying, "no surprise that liberals belive in ghosts, they are so stupid!" Helps you sleep at night? That your POV is right?

I don't get the idea that one side is always correct, and that the other side must be ridiculed in order for you to feel satisfied.
I guess the word satire is not in your vocabulary?

I'm pointing it out precseily because it IS stupid. Then maybe, just maybe, the loopers will think once or twice - with whatever miniscule reflective abilities they seem to possess - before posting their own sort of tripe.
 

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: NJDevil
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: NJDevil
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: NJDevil
Wow. What an asshat. "liberals have the highest percentage of belief in apparitions and wisps of smoke."

Think about what an atheist would say about all the conservative Christians, believing in an invisible man. How stupid/ignorant/asshat-ish would you think that atheist is?

Exactly.
Are you trying to claim that ghosts are a Liberal religious belief?

And, btw, I'd agree with the atheist, as I don't believe in a god and I'm not a christian, conservative or otherwise.

I'm taking you don't read too much, as your comprehension is clearly lacking.

Yes, I said ghosts are a liberal religious belief /sarcasm

I'm saying that think about someone posting a link that says more republicans believe in God. That person says, "Yea! Repugs/republocons, neocons, etc are t3h stupid!! They believe in invisible men! It doesn't surprise me that ignorant red-stated inbreeding nascar watching, trailer park living republicans believe in invisible men"

Think about your reaction to someone saying that, and maybe next time, you can have the good sense not to post something as moronic as you just did.

Man oh man, reading this forum makes me think of Carlin/Chris Rock.

Carlin: "Some people don't want you to say this. Some people don't want you to say that. Some people think that if you mention certain things they might happen. Some people are really f'ing stupid. There's a lot of stupid bastards running around. Think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize that half of them are stupider than that"

Chris Rock: "Republicans are f'ing idiots. Democrats are f'ing idiots. Anyone who makes up their mind before they hear the issue is a fool."

Try listening to some entertaining and thought provoking comedians before you post.
Boo(heh)-hoo. Take your dishonest whine somewhere else.

How many posts have we had in here concerning what those 'ignant' red-staters, conservatives, or Christians think or believe? When that Pew study came out about how more conervatives believed Saddam was involved in 9/11, the liberals couldn't restrain themselves in here from running straight in here and pointing it out with numerous topics on that issue and frequent regurgitations of that point, all with an implied wink and a nudge of 'Look how stupid they are.'

The point is all kinds of people believe all kinds of stupid and ignorant things. Don't like that point? Too bad.

When did I ever say that calling people ignant red staters was good? Have you ever seen me defend that sort of accusation, ever?
When did you rail against it, as you're doing to me now? What compelled you to finally speak up in my thread?

You're allowed to bring up what liberals/conservatives believe in politically, as that actually makes sense. Liberals are more pro-choice than conservatives. Studies show this, that's fine. Liberals are more likely to want universal healthcare provided by the state, that's true. Conservatives are more likely to cut taxes, all accurate points.

When you say something like, "no surprise that liberals believe in apparitions," you're not only bringing up a stupid, irrelevant point, but you're also showing your ignorance. More conservatives believe in God, who some would argue is a figment of our imagination (i'm not arguing that). So who really believes in apparitions? I don't know. I don't care. It's irrelevant and you've got some issues if you think that a study like this can define an entire group of people.
The study doesn't define an entire group of people. It defines subgroups of people within various major groupings.

If you don't care who believes in apparitions, then why are you even bothering to reply?

I believe the point is that he is referring to your superiority complex revealed by your need to put down people who believe in something you think is ignorant. I think you are doing so for two basic reasons. 1. Your false sense of self respect is founded on the notion that reasoning people are superior to 'psychics', and you know, your true self knows, that's a lie, so you are threatened by the concept that you are actually only a piker on the road of human evolution. 2. You are literalistic and have not come upon the notion that ghosts, because they aren't ghosts in the traditional sense, may in fact be "SOMETHING ELSE REAL" that is as yet not commonly understood.

 

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NJD: I don't get the idea that one side is always correct, and that the other side must be ridiculed in order for you to feel satisfied.

TLC: I'm pointing it out precseily because it IS stupid. Then maybe, just maybe, the loopers will think once or twice - with whatever miniscule reflective abilities they seem to possess - before posting their own sort of tripe.

M: Now we get to the heart of the issue. We hate ourselves to the point that we each feel the worst in the world and if everybody isn't exactly like us then they are superior. We don't want that.

Anybody who thinks differently than me is stupid cause I don't like threat, being pushed into feeling how I really feel.
 

Anubis

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you do know that like 50% os all statistics are made up

that being said this always made me laugh

Only 55% of all Americans know that the sun is a star.
 

skace

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Logically, it should go down with age. The longer someone is alive without proof of something existing, the less likely they are to believe in it. The main exception to this rule being a god, because the older someone gets the closer they get to dying and the more they want to believe that something more exists for them beyond this life. Like hoping your favorite game has some hidden level past the credits.

I don't know what the statistic that liberals believe in ghosts the most mean. Unless liberals draw some parallel to athiests. Which I also don't understand. I'd expect athiests to believe the least in ghosts, considering they only need to apply the same logic they used on a god to ghosts and come up with exactly the same answer.
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

There's an ideological twist, with 42% of liberals saying they believe in ghosts--but only 25% of conservatives and 35% of moderates saying this.

Belief in ghosts declines with age, with 45 of those 18 to 29 sticking to that, while only 22% of those 65 and over holding that view.


Doesn't surprise me at all. Hardcore liberals seem to be a bit out of touch with reality and tend to be big fans of conspiracy theories and pseudoscience.

Edit: Hardcore conservatives don't seem to be much better. I'm more middle of the road, since my thought process is still intact.
 

davestar

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Originally posted by: maluckey
This information is less than surprising. Christianity is the most common religion in the United States. Christianity teaches that the dead are dead until the resurrection, and their teachings are that the dead cannot hear or speak. It is the same for Muslims in that Allah himself stated "And you cannot make those to hear who are in their graves."

The two largest religions of the world do not support "Ghosts", so it is not a wonder that the Conservatives, who are for the most part more religious, don't often belive in Ghosts.

Nice to see someone spent alot of time researching and polling for what common sense already knew.

exactly. trust tasteslikechicken to address the flame/stupid/off-topic posts rather than this post, which pummels his pitiful attempt at flamebaiting.
 

DAGTA

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Originally posted by: maluckey
This information is less than surprising. Christianity is the most common religion in the United States. Christianity teaches that the dead are dead until the resurrection, and their teachings are that the dead cannot hear or speak. It is the same for Muslims in that Allah himself stated "And you cannot make those to hear who are in their graves."

The two largest religions of the world do not support "Ghosts", so it is not a wonder that the Conservatives, who are for the most part more religious, don't often belive in Ghosts.

Nice to see someone spent alot of time researching and polling for what common sense already knew.

Ghosts are mentioned in the Old Testament. Therefore, any group based on that text (Christians, Jews) believe in the existence of ghosts. Hence why I find it amusing when I talk to other Christians that tell me they do not believe in ghosts.
 

eigen

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Originally posted by: DAGTA
Originally posted by: maluckey
This information is less than surprising. Christianity is the most common religion in the United States. Christianity teaches that the dead are dead until the resurrection, and their teachings are that the dead cannot hear or speak. It is the same for Muslims in that Allah himself stated "And you cannot make those to hear who are in their graves."

The two largest religions of the world do not support "Ghosts", so it is not a wonder that the Conservatives, who are for the most part more religious, don't often belive in Ghosts.

Nice to see someone spent alot of time researching and polling for what common sense already knew.

Ghosts are mentioned in the Old Testament. Therefore, any group based on that text (Christians, Jews) believe in the existence of ghosts. Hence why I find it amusing when I talk to other Christians that tell me they do not believe in ghosts.

Yeah I guess everybody forgot about the "Holy Ghost".But thats different cause you know he is god.
 

maluckey

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eigen,

The Vulgate (derived from the Septuagent) Bible has 102 occurrences of the word Ghost, and all but a few refer to The Holy Ghost. The others ALL refer to the asct of "giving up the Ghost" as if it denoted the soul. The Holy Ghost is not a Ghost, but an extension of Gods Will and Power, almost an entity unto itself.

According to most good dictionaries, another meaning for the word ghost is as a suggestion of some quality. In this case, it is intangible as is the soul, therefore the word Ghost is used.