1: Go to BYU. 2: Get a GF 3: Have sex. 4: Get kicked off the bball team

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jonks

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America was built on the hatred of tea.
Look at the Boston Tea Party. Those guys hated tea too!

Actually it was built on hatred of taxation without representation. But ya know what? Turns out people don't like taxation with representation either. Go figure.
 

Ackmed

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they did the anti-auburn thing. ROLL TIDE!

Hey look, another ignorant sore loser. Your team gave up a 24 point lead at home. Stop crying. This kid actually did something, unlike Newton when there is zero proof he did anything wrong.
 

edro

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Actually it was built on hatred of taxation without representation. But ya know what? Turns out people don't like taxation with representation either. Go figure.
You sir, never paid attention to Wikipedia.
It specifically states that the Bostonians dressed up as Indians and attacked the tea, because they hated it. The British loved tea, so it was a double win for the Americans.
 

jonks

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You sir, never paid attention to Wikipedia.
It specifically states that the Bostonians dressed up as Indians and attacked the tea, because they hated it. The British loved tea, so it was a double win for the Americans.

I sit corrected.
 

Cogman

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where's the reason?

God said so.

Seriously, why does any religious organization have a given restriction on its members? The no Tea, coffee, alcohol thing came years before there was a medical reason not to drink them.
 

Cogman

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the benefits of tea far out weigh the so-called problems associated with it.

Possibly, but that really isn't the point I was trying to make. The point I was trying to make is that religion doesn't need medical reason to have a dietary restriction.
 

ch33zw1z

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God said so.

Seriously, why does any religious organization have a given restriction on its members? The no Tea, coffee, alcohol thing came years before there was a medical reason not to drink them.

What's the medical reason not to drink them?

Bolded: I don't know, you tell me.
 
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child of wonder

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Possibly, but that really isn't the point I was trying to make. The point I was trying to make is that religion doesn't need medical reason to have a dietary restriction.

It was. You were implying the church was somehow ahead of the curve by banning them.
 

Kanalua

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I think it's not as common now, but when I was in college in the 90's, I knew quite a few people who did it (raised Mormon, but I had no desire to go to BYU. I kinda went the other way, Arizona State). There was a lawyer in Mesquite (ironically, also a Mormon) who made crazy money off people doing this.

I was there in the 90s. I wasn't common then. It was a funny rumor, but no where near "common" at BYU.
 
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Dr. Zaus

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Possibly, but that really isn't the point I was trying to make. The point I was trying to make is that religion doesn't need medical reason to have a dietary restriction.

It' doesn't but CoW is right.
 

uli2000

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"Ward off danger" was meant to be a synonym for "protection" which you confirmed for me. Thank you.

Can you please describe for us how the garments have provided you physical protection or how it has helped you resist temptation?


The best way I've heard it described was by a LDS leader named Boyd K. Packer. He was asked to speak at a meeting of military chaplains. He was asked about the garment that LDS service members wore. He then asked the chaplain asking the question about the signifigance of his robes while officiating, to which the chaplain responded. Packer then said that the garment to LDS member is similar to the robes they wore, that both were a reminder of commitments made to God, and while they wore theirs' on the outside of their clothing, the LDS wore them underneath. Every male wearer of the garment is a Priesthood holder in the church and is, in a way, a lay clergyman, and at various times are called to leadership positions within the church from local congregations all the way up to church headquarter.

And regarding your earlier question about my current standing as a member. Well, it's complicated. I am still a member, though I choose not to participate on a regular basis. I do have a few issues with church matters, though none of them are doctrinal in nature.
 

Dr. Zaus

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It's actually to tie them to the proper point of the multi-verse; you have to read pearl to get it.
 

Dr. Zaus

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Cog, I was kidding!

I get faith; I once heard the profit explain that you have a little faith and then you act and that action shows your faith working which builds more faith, which builds more action.

It was a good lesson.
 

HamburgerBoy

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Why does everyone keep bringing up polygamy as reason for their craziness? Homosexuality is tolerated now.
 

jonks

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He's correct. The Mormons pumped millions of dollars and man hours into the effort to pass Proposition 8.

Give it maybe 10-20 years or so and another revelation will reveal that as it happens, gays will not burn in hell for all eternity. Um, there was a typo or something.

God = flip flop
 

Ninjahedge

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I'm going to start CSU (Charlie Sheen University) and my rules will be as such:

Bone all of the women you can
Do every drug at least once a week, extra credit for more often
Demand better grades because you deserve them
Cure your ailments with your mind
Call the dean a pussy when things get tough

I believe this school could be very successful.

You forgot to include your salary......

$3M per semester.
 

Ninjahedge

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It is always funny when God makes all these decisions that seem to benefit those that tell them to us and helps keep us all "stout observers of the religious doctrine".


ANY religion needs to be looked at carefully to see where teh true roots of many things began.

Some have valid social or even medical beginnings. Most, however, are political. One quest or protection of power, or a means and method to segregate and dominate your own clergy/flock.

I have little problem with a religion changing its doctrine, so long as that doctrine was not previously touted as an absolute stricture that must be followed lest you lose your balls in heaven (or on Earth if the reverend finds out it was you with his wife that last summer).

The key is to always take religion with a grain of salt. Not a pillar. Some may call that Pillar a Lot, I just say it is too much.