Stop with the hearsay and second hand accounts and read the book for yourself. Believe it or not, mormons aren't stupid. They're one of the most highly educated and culturally savvy demographics in the world. One of the churches top priorities is education(whether you go to BYU or elsewhere) and foreign service mission. They are very well aware of all of your 'proven hoaxes' and other malinformed slander. They're not actually a cult of brainwashed backwoodsmen. The difference is they actually read the book for themselves and made a decision based on that.So this Mormon concludes the Kinderhook plates are of no consequence because sources are in disagreement over whether a skeleton was buried with the plates and that no translation is shown to have occurred.
This is all an immaterial straw man argument considering Joseph Smith saw the Kinderhook plates, said the symbols were similar to those from the plates he claimed to translate to create the Book of Mormon, and stated he believed he could translate them.
Again, this is clear evidence of the fraudulent origins of the Mormon church. Had Joseph Smith actually seen and translated the golden plates, he would have immediately identified the Kinderhook plates as a fraud, especially since their symbols were based on Chinese symbols copied from teabags while the symbols Joseph Smith claimed to translate were supposedly similar to Egyptian hieroglyphics.
This is the same as with the Book of Abraham which, too, is evidence of his scam since we can now compare the original Egyptian document with the Book of Abraham and can see Joseph Smith's translation is nowhere near what the document actually portrays.
What is it about the mormons you find so offensive that you need to convince them otherwise? Their belief system in trying to be upstanding citizens? Their commitment to family? Their commitment to stick to their guns regardless of the worldly consequences (see this thread)?.Their generous nature? The church practically funds the entirety of the Red Cross. Every time a disaster hits the church is the first on the scene with supplies and helping hands, getting there well before the military or any other organization. Please read the book and find all these scary things. The mormons aren't warmongering, they aren't violent. They aren't blowing up buildings or abortion clinics. They're not advocating war. They're just doing their best to live each day better than the day before. Some days they fail, and others they succeed.
At the end of the day you can believe whatever you want and the mormons are totally cool with that. They won't call you stupid or issue a death threat for it either.
PS, all that crap you see on TV with having dozens of wives and marrying 14 year olds are not mormons, it's truly a cult spin off religion that is not affiliated in any way with the church.
