1 GHz running at 60 C - EDIT: Down to 38 C !

[trudi]

I've read a few of your posts on CPU temps and someone said to worry if you got to 60 or 65 - well I'm at 60 and so I am worried. I have a Thunderbird 1GHz on a Gigabyte Motherboard. The sides are off of my case and the room is freezing cold (air conditioning) and the case temp registers at like 35 C with a couple fans running. The only way I can tell what the stupid temperature is is to restart and enter the BIOS so I'm not even sure if thats a good reading or if it is hotter when it is running all of the time. It doesn't randomly shut down and is stable, but the 60 thing bugs me off a little. Especially if it can be off by 10 Degrees that could make it 70!

I have a heatsink and used some type of thermal stuff when I put it on although I don't know what. Is there something I can do to make it cooler? Is this thing just going to run how forever? I'm scared that if I put the sides on the case it will just get hotter and hotter in there. Any advice would be appreciated.

 

[Mikewarrior2]

what motherboard are you using?

What heatsink are you using?

35C case temp according ot MB isn't that low...

Have you tried mbm for windows temp reading?



Mike

 

[trudi]

Its a Gigabyte GA-7IXE4 with an Antec Heatsink, i have another one, a Thermaltake or something like that, they both seem to have the same results.

I downloaded that MBM thing but it doesn't read a single thing from my system, all of the counters say 0 which doesn't seem right.

As for the case temp, I don't know if 35C is right or not but its absolutely freezing in the room that the Computer lives, I like to keep the air conditioner cranked up as high as possible because I greatly dislike heat.

 

[Mikewarrior2]

well, the first problem is probably the hetasink... it isn't the greatest in the world.

You have to set MBM to read the sensors for your mb... go to teh settings, and temps, and VIA686x-1 is MB temp, VIA686x-2 is CPU socket-thermsitor.



Mike

 

[psyched]

I've been told by a friend of mine that 1000mhz t-birds run hotter then most. If i was you I would get a better HSF like a globalwin or swiftech and use some artic silver ][ .Make sure you have at least 2 fans inside you box not inculding power supply fan.

 

[trudi]

Well lets say in theory that I was going to take that Heatsink off what brand / one would I want? What / Where do you get artic silver?

And I don't know what is wrong with the MBM 5 thing but it is possibly the most confusing piece of software ever written, I can't find anything even similar to what you are talking about in there, its just a GUI mess.

 

[psyched]

Well I like my globalwin CAK-38 HSF... it's a all copper heat sink with a delta fan on it which seems to work well. Alot of people rave about siftech HSF, but they are hard to get ahold of, very big and very heavy.

 

[srvblues00]

yeah, MBM 5 sucks nutz.. look around and get MBM 4.x if you can.. it's much much better - actually useful as opposed to MBM 5.

 

[trudi]

Thanks!

Would your HSF recomendation change if I told you my motherboard is one of those pesky compact type, i've had to "alter" both of my other hsf because they were too big and kept hitting a couple little capacitors. I'd really rather just get one that would fit for once instead of playing around with it first.

Thanks again!

 

[hokahknow]

You could try a GlobalWin FOP32-1. It is smaller and should cool a 1Ghz just fine.

I have used the Thermaltake Chrome Orb on 1.0Ghz and the temps stay around 50. Make sure that you are NOT putting too much thermal compound on the heatsink. Just put a small thin layer on the heatsink and make sure it is seated properly.

 

[trudi]

I don't exactly remember how I did it last time but by your comment above hokahknow does that mean that you don't put any on the little chip itself, I thought I had a "How to" and they said to put a thin thin layer on the chip and on the underside of the heatsink - maybe I have too much then?

 

[OleMrBaghead]

We bought a bunch of Giga-byte mobo's for work. All of them are 1.33 Thunderbirds and running between 45 - 60 C. We keep em in a cool place and used one of those thermaltake orbs on all of them. The room is well air conditioned and we got fans out the yin yang in drawer type cases. I have a feeling that gigabytes just give higher temp readings. Different companies scale what they "guess" the temperature should be. We had one running at 68 degrees....the thermal grease was too thick and when I reset it and redid the grease it dropped by 10 degrees. But my main point is that I think gigabyte's read high.

 

[bomb99]

my 1ghz @ 1.33 with a taisold 7420092 the cheap one with a delta 60mm fan and is at 40c - 45c
if i oc it to 1.4ghz it reaches 42c -52c.

i think 60c is really hot, but where are your readings coming from?
thermaltake orbs sucks for socket a, i had one, is not cool enough and it heavy and you have put it in and off gentle because you can chip your core easily, happen to me :9

but my cpu still runs good

 

[hokahknow]

Trudi

Yeah, if you get too much thermal compound on it actually will cause the temp to go up. I think it then acts like an insulator and doesn't let the heat escape. One thing you may want to do is remove your heatsink and clean off the CPU with Isopropyl alcohol (I usually use a q-tip). Don't get it too wet though. Make sure you remove the compound that is around the core. Then put a small thin layer on the heatsink and install. Make sure you put it on the area of the heatsink that will touch the core of the cpu.

In my observations if you remove the heatsink from the CPU and there is only a little compound remaining on the core (and you can still see the word ATHLON), then you will have lower temperatures. However if you remove the heatsink and the compound is caked all around the core, then you have higher temperatures.

Hope this helps.

 

[McCarthy]

I admit it. I use too much heatsink compound.

Was in the case today, pulled the sink, this was the first time I've been able to read Athlon in the remaining goop - but still some squished around the edges.

So upon reapplying I did this. Remember those pins your mom used to use when sewing, the straight kind with a little plastic ball on top? Ok, imagine that ball is how much heatsink compound you have (assuming Artic Silver here).

Now, cut that in half.
Now, cut it in half again.
You still have plenty. Spread it nice and even (a receipt from a store using a thermalprinter works well) and away you go.
You basically want enough you can cover the core without being able to see through it, though the lettering may be visible if you spread evenly enough and look close.

That said, I haven't been slopping it on like some. Temps have been the same each time, I'm just being nitpicky - from my heaviest overdone application to my most recent and lightest I'm still the same. 44C Tbird 650 OC to 800 with voltage set to 1.80 (which bios and VIA HWM both say is 1.84, but heck it works). This with a FOP32. Not the coolest around, but I just have one cheap case fan blowing and never cut my faceplate to let it flow right anyway. Every time I think "ah, this would make it cooler" I end up at "and make it louder" so...

--Mc

 

[trudi]

I think I'm going to get a Vantec FCE-6030D because they seem to say its as good as the GlobalWin counterpart but MUCH easier to put on - since I am not really 100% comforable with puting this thing on I figure that easy is better. Anyone hear anything terrible about this one? The reviews I read were all good. I don't overclock so hopefully this will be enough. I'll use that Artic Silver stuff too - there is no considerable difference between the regular and the II stuff, right? I think it said that II is just more versatile - just making sure.

I will keep in mind that the Gigabytes run hot - thanks OleMrBaghead.

I have a case fan in front and then one of those little slot ones with the input and output fan - is this enough?

 

[trudi]

Thanks everyone! I got the Vantec yesterday and I was very impressed with how easy it went on! More importantly with the Artic Silver it dropped my CPU temp from 60-62 to 38. My case temp is still 33 but I'm happy. Thanks again!

 

[Generalen]

Maybe get some Case cooling too so the M/B would get a little cooler but that aint realy needed

 

[Slof]

I have a 1GHz Athlon Thunderbird runnin' at 37.6°C.

Cooler == Thermaltake Mini Super Orb
2 extra fans in the case, both Sunon 80 mm.

Case Temp : 22.4°C at this moment, room temp : 25.3°C
Near CPU Temp = 35.2°C

Case : Aopen HQ45

And my case is LOADED.