1 ghz or 1.1 ghz Athlon

Shu8

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i'm not sure if i want to spend 80 bucks more for a 1.1 ghz athlon. i want to buy the processors in retail. i can get the 1 ghz for 300 bucks at buy.com using the $30 coupon. unless i can spend 80 bucks more for a 1.1 at techstore.com for 380. is there a significant difference between these two processors. i'm not sure if i'll go with overclocking cause i won't need the speed now. i'm intending to keep my computer for at least 3-4 years. i want the speed now for gaming, photoshop, and online. what should i do?

also do any of you know if the taisol CEK733092 cpu cooler comes with the processors?

thank you
 

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Lifer
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Buy the fastest you can afford. $80 isn't really that much more to add to a whole system price, & I can almost guarantee you'll regret it if you don't.

And no, the Taisol cooler doesn't come with the retail CPUs. It's an aftermarket cooler.

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Modus

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Actually, best value in purchasing is achieved, not by buying the very fastest components possible under your budget, but by buying whatever components

1) meet your minimum needs

and

2) have greater price/performance ratios than competing products, including products of the same brand.

This is especially true in the computer hardware market, where prices fall so rapidly and technology advances so quickly. Never think of a computer systems as an investment in longevity. If you do, you've already lost by resigning yourself to spending exhorbiantly. Instead, think of a computer systems as a disposable commodity. It's sad but it's the truth -- book depreciation on computer parts is an incredible 30% per year, and real market depreciating is closer to 50%. If you bought, say an Athlon 1.1 GHz for $80 more than the 1.0 GHz, it might be marginally faster today, but just think what that $80 will buy you next year!

In other words, the value of your computer depreciates faster than the value of your money, so you want to change as little of your money as possible into computer parts. You'd be much better off buying a cheap computer every year as opposed to an expensive computer every two years. Now, in real estate or collectibles, it's entirely different. Value of property tends to go up rather than down, so investment is wise.

Another common fallacy is that we ought to compare each component's price with the cost of the whole system. This is easily shown wrong by an example of a $800 system with a $200 video card and consideration being given to a $400 video card that was only 20% faster. By conventional wisdom, you would have to buy the more expensive video card, because it would only add 20% to the cost of the whole system while delivering the required 20% performance boost. But obviously, we must compare components to components to achieve best value.

The best system today is a Duron 750 with 128M of ram, a 20G or 30G 7200 rpm hard drive, and a GeForce 2 MX. No other system comes close in terms of price/performance, and no other system can demonstrate the need for any further speed in today's applications (with the possible exception of professional audio/video/3D work).

Modus
 

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Lifer
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Modus...

He said he wanted longevity, not value.

;)

Besides, if he's already buying a TBird 1 gig, he might as well spend the extra $80 to get the 1.1 gig.

Some people don't like messing with their computers every six months, or even every year. They want to save up a significant amount of money, buy the best they can, & sit on it until it's obselete. My dad's like that, he's still using a 486 that cost him $2,000.

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Shu8

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thanks for the input guys. i still dont' know what to do. i'll try to see if the 1.1 is under my budget cause i recently decided to go with the soundblaster live platinum 5.1 over the x-gamer. i really just wanna know if there's much of a speed increase in the 1.1 over the 1 ghz.
 

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I would opt for the 1 ghz, it's plenty of speed for doing almost anything. Actually I think that 700-800 mhz is plenty enough for todays applications. And I don't that that future applications will require more computer speed then todays applications. Does it really matter if you can render a complex image in 9 seconds instead of 10?
 

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Lifer
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Mule...

The difference becomes greater with larger time amounts. 9 hours instead of 10, etc.

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Leo V

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My vote for 1GHz. I think it's a more mature product with fewer heat and power problems. Price notwithstanding!
 

Modus

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ViperGTS,

<<Modus... He said he wanted longevity, not value.>>

Longevity is the worst possible wish when buying a computer. It's like looking for reliability in an automobile or low price in fine jewelry. There is simply no way a 'three or four year old' computer system will be considered fast by any standard.

<<Besides, if he's already buying a TBird 1 gig, he might as well spend the extra $80 to get the 1.1 gig.>>

For what possible reason? Testosterone? The extra 100 MHz will do absolutely nothing for current 3D games at proper resolutions, where the video card is memory-bandwidth-limitted. It won't make a difference in Photoshop unless you plan on retouching a mural for the Great Wall of China. And, contrary to what Intel would have us believe, a fast processor will contribute absolutely nothing to our &quot;online experience.&quot; That $80 would go so much further if he put it in the bank and used it when he really needed the extra speed.

<<Some people don't like messing with their computers every six months, or even every year.>>

Smarter people realize that if one wants to keep up with technology, sinking every penny into the bleeding edge and then sitting on it for four years isn't the way to go.

Modus
 

divinemartyr

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You know I have to agree with a couple other people here on this one, and go with the 1 ghz machine. I recently bought a P3 866 for $243 for the cpu instead of shelling out $100 more for the 933, the value was just there. I generally rebuild systems every 2 years. I built a k6 300 2 1/2 years ago now (a little longer than normal) and it's worked fairly well up until this point. I probably should have upgraded my video card before now, as that is way outdated, however the cpu and memory have lasted me. In 2 years, 866 mhz will be just as slow as 300 mhz is today however.

Go with a good value, and don't wait too terribly long to upgrade, 3 years is a long time, but 1 ghz might serve you that long.

divinemartyr