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1 gb vs 2 in overclocking

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thanasi

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I curently had 2*1gb giel sticks but couldnt really get stable at 2600 even using 166 ram divider
so I had my old 2 512s and poped them things in and realized I can get 255 *11 and not get so hot thats is such a difference wow guys you were right 1 gb sticks blow azz.I probally sell my other sticks and get another 2 512s cause I might need to use it for adobe cause that shites a memmory hog oh yeah l@@k http://www.imageshack.us[/L][/L]][img=[url="http://img137.echo.cx/img137/8194/true37zk.jpg"]http://img137.echo.cx/img137/8194/true37zk.jpg[/url]][/url]
 
I TRIED EVERYTHING TRUST ME 166 133 alot I couldnt hit higher the 235 bsod were beating me up trust me I did every possible calculation
 
I advise you to a.) Start all over again with your overclock, since this RAM is NOT going to make it, or b.) buy other RAM.
 
why would I wanna start over when Im at 2.8 doing great I could sell those 2 sticks and get another 2 512s so I can have 2 gbs run it in 2t i heard that and 1t is no difference
 
isnt it well known that the more ram you have the worse your oc is.? i have always known this and only run 512mb. I never have any slow downs or any probs. 2x512 may be ok, but I do nothing that needs it.
 
Yeh, my 1gb Corsair VS sticks don't like dividers...my comp won't even boot at a 133 or 100 divider...not sure what the problem is there. I was going to try my 2x512mb HyperX pc3700 in there but the xp90c is in the way of doing an easy removal/installation of the memory.
 
Larger and/or multiple sticks of RAM have always been an obstacle for stable overclocks... just another thing to hold it back.

I'm not a fan of Giel RAM either. I'd rather go with Corsair, Mushkin or Crucial.
 
Yeah, I think if I was running 2x512 I'd probably be able to squeeze some more MHz out and still be stable, but I'd rather have the RAM.
 
Originally posted by: thanasi
why would I wanna start over when Im at 2.8 doing great I could sell those 2 sticks and get another 2 512s so I can have 2 gbs run it in 2t i heard that and 1t is no difference
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Actually, there is a very discernable (i.e., realworld) difference in speed and performance between 1T and 2T timing.

Don't know what your system and RAM specs are, but if your RAM is capable of 1T try multiple-renderings of a large MB image with various filters at both 1T and 2T settings and I think you'll see what I mean. Its more noticeable with ultra low-latency RAM (2-2-2-5) but you should notice the difference even if you don't have ULL RAM. I've seen the difference in rendering time in Photoshop myself.

The difference in gaming is very pronounced too. We're talking about 8+ FPS on my system at default speed. Difference is greater at higher clocks.

 
Originally posted by: Aries64
Originally posted by: thanasi
why would I wanna start over when Im at 2.8 doing great I could sell those 2 sticks and get another 2 512s so I can have 2 gbs run it in 2t i heard that and 1t is no difference
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Actually, there is a very discernable (i.e., realworld) difference in speed and performance between 1T and 2T timing.

Don't know what your system and RAM specs are, but if your RAM is capable of 1T try multiple-renderings of a large MB image with various filters at both 1T and 2T settings and I think you'll see what I mean. Its more noticeable with ultra low-latency RAM (2-2-2-5) but you should notice the difference even if you don't have ULL RAM. I've seen the difference in rendering time in Photoshop myself.

The difference in gaming is very pronounced too. We're talking about 8+ FPS on my system at default speed. Difference is greater at higher clocks.
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Test it yourself, if its not an artificial bench, youre looking at 2% or less in games going from 1t to 2t.
 
I'm running 4x512MB Corsair Value Select and I absolutely cannot get over 2.45Ghz stable with a Venice 3000+ on a DFI Ultra-D motherboard. I, like he, have treid everything, but I get BSODs (on bootup) like crazy over 2.45Ghz. Once in windows, though, its prime stable for 8+ hours at 2.45.

Go figure.
 
Originally posted by: WA261
isnt it well known that the more ram you have the worse your oc is.? i have always known this and only run 512mb. I never have any slow downs or any probs. 2x512 may be ok, but I do nothing that needs it.
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umm what exactly do you do then on your pc that benefits from an uberclocked x800xt pe, and a 3.2ghz a64 but not 1gb ram =l.
 
Originally posted by: d33pblue
I'm running 4x512MB Corsair Value Select and I absolutely cannot get over 2.45Ghz stable with a Venice 3000+ on a DFI Ultra-D motherboard. I, like he, have treid everything, but I get BSODs (on bootup) like crazy over 2.45Ghz. Once in windows, though, its prime stable for 8+ hours at 2.45.Go figure.
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Have you tried removing two of the sticks to see if it will overclock better?

Over on the DFI-Street.com forum people say to stay away from Corsair's value RAM.

What stepping and week is your Venice? I"ve seen a few reeports of LBBLE 0516 chips topping out around 2.5GHz.
 
Originally posted by: Necrolezbeast
Yeh, my 1gb Corsair VS sticks don't like dividers...my comp won't even boot at a 133 or 100 divider...not sure what the problem is there.
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I've seen other reports of trouble with dividers, but I can't see how it could be the RAM itself. How would RAM even know if it was running under something other than the 1:1 divider? With an A64, the RAM frequency is always determined by a dividing the CPU frequency, and all the RAM knows is the frequency of the clock signal given to it. It doesn't access the divider setting directly. So why does it make any difference which divider is used?

Maybe the problem is really in the memory controller?





 
Originally posted by: Otter
Originally posted by: d33pblue
I'm running 4x512MB Corsair Value Select and I absolutely cannot get over 2.45Ghz stable with a Venice 3000+ on a DFI Ultra-D motherboard. I, like he, have treid everything, but I get BSODs (on bootup) like crazy over 2.45Ghz. Once in windows, though, its prime stable for 8+ hours at 2.45.Go figure.
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Have you tried removing two of the sticks to see if it will overclock better?

Over on the DFI-Street.com forum people say to stay away from Corsair's value RAM.

What stepping and week is your Venice? I"ve seen a few reeports of LBBLE 0516 chips topping out around 2.5GHz.
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I have the LBBLE stepping 3000+

And whether or not it'll clock higher with 1GB of ram is irrelevant to me. I very frequently use more than 1GB of memory and that is more useful than an extra 100Mhz on the overclock. If I get bored one day, I might try it, but I seriously doubt I'll return to 1GB of ram.
 
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: Aries64
Originally posted by: thanasi
why would I wanna start over when Im at 2.8 doing great I could sell those 2 sticks and get another 2 512s so I can have 2 gbs run it in 2t i heard that and 1t is no difference
Click to expand...
Actually, there is a very discernable (i.e., realworld) difference in speed and performance between 1T and 2T timing.

Don't know what your system and RAM specs are, but if your RAM is capable of 1T try multiple-renderings of a large MB image with various filters at both 1T and 2T settings and I think you'll see what I mean. Its more noticeable with ultra low-latency RAM (2-2-2-5) but you should notice the difference even if you don't have ULL RAM. I've seen the difference in rendering time in Photoshop myself.

The difference in gaming is very pronounced too. We're talking about 8+ FPS on my system at default speed. Difference is greater at higher clocks.
Click to expand...

Test it yourself, if its not an artificial bench, youre looking at 2% or less in games going from 1t to 2t.
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Acanthus, those are MY observations from PERSONAL EXPERIENCE in real world applications and gaming - not artificial bench numbers. Thats why I said "I've seen the difference in rendering time in Photoshop myself". I have literally seen multiple redraws after edits in various layers in Photoshop.

And the 8+ FPS I stated earlier is also from personal experience on my system. In Halo v1.07 I get 78+ FPS at 2T, but I get 84+ FPS at 1T (CPU speed and all other settings being equal).

Obviously, every system and each game is different, but now that you know the numbers I got at 1 and 2T settings, maybe you should try yours? Out of curiosity, where did you get that 2% figure? Personal experience while gaming, running real world apps like Photoshop, or scores from synthetic benchmarks off "trusted" web sites?
 
I GOT GEIL 2 *512 RIGHT KNOW THERE KICKING AZZ i HAD 2 *1GB STICKS BUT THERE LYING AROUND CAUSE THEY CANT PAA 240 WITH THE JAWS OF LIFE SO ILL SEL THEM AND GET 4 512 AND KEEP IT 2.8 GEIL VALUE RAM WITH THE MODDED FAN i PUT LOL
 
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