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1.6 P4 ?

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Claybear

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I have a old P4 1.6 423pin processor in a dell I would like to upgrad this to a celeron 2.8 is it worth it?And would i be able to use a socket adapter? all I do is watch movies and play COH.
 
socket adapters really aren't suggested, and that celeron is probably only equal to a 2.2 or 2.4ghz P4. furthermore, your old motherboard can't push out the high FSB that celeron needs,so it will be even worse.
 
i'm sorry i looked up a quick review and i read 800, it is in fact 400. it certianly isn't the upgrade you'll probably be hoping for but i'll leave this thread for people who are better versed with Intel systems to guide you. i'm not certain on this subject.
 
a 2.8ghz celly has to be faster then a 1.6ghz willy. maybe not by much, but if you really want to, then go for it.
 
Originally posted by: Claybear
so a 2.8 celeron is about = to ??? 2.2 P4 ???
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Pretty much, but I have to ask what is the cost of the socket 423 to 478 adapter? If you going via the Evergreen upgrade way, it's going to cost you (their bottom upgrade: 2.2 GHz Celeron is $200 or $150 after a rebate).

You might want to check if your Dell can take a regular ATX motherboard. For $200 (or even the $150), you can upgrade to a newer motherboard and get the faster cpu, plus get all the extra benefits of having a newer motherboard (usb 2.0, etc.). You will most likely need to buy new RAM also.
 
Originally posted by: Redviffer
Originally posted by: Claybear
so a 2.8 celeron is about = to ??? 2.2 P4 ???
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Pretty much, but I have to ask what is the cost of the socket 423 to 478 adapter? If you going via the Evergreen upgrade way, it's going to cost you (their bottom upgrade: 2.2 GHz Celeron is $200 or $150 after a rebate).

You might want to check if your Dell can take a regular ATX motherboard. For $200 (or even the $150), you can upgrade to a newer motherboard and get the faster cpu, plus get all the extra benefits of having a newer motherboard (usb 2.0, etc.). You will most likely need to buy new RAM also.
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If I were you I would just buy a cheap mobo/cpu combo from like Frys or something.
 
Originally posted by: Redviffer
Originally posted by: Claybear
so a 2.8 celeron is about = to ??? 2.2 P4 ???
Click to expand...

Pretty much, but I have to ask what is the cost of the socket 423 to 478 adapter? If you going via the Evergreen upgrade way, it's going to cost you (their bottom upgrade: 2.2 GHz Celeron is $200 or $150 after a rebate).

You might want to check if your Dell can take a regular ATX motherboard. For $200 (or even the $150), you can upgrade to a newer motherboard and get the faster cpu, plus get all the extra benefits of having a newer motherboard (usb 2.0, etc.). You will most likely need to buy new RAM also.
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If I were you I would just buy a cheap mobo/cpu combo from like Frys or something.
 
Any Celly at any speed is no better than a 1.8ish P4...the lack of decent cache means that no matter how high you ramp up the clock speed they can't keep that big pipeline full...check out the old Anand article that shows that you are better off with an old 1.7 ghz duron (brand new about 30 bucks) than any Celeron. Either find a cheap northwood if that fits or get a whole new mobo combo, but for god's sake don't get a Celly...
 
The socket 423 to 478 adapter is available, but you may be limited to the 2.0a cpu for that dell mobo. Check the dell website for available cpus for your mobo.
 
i would never use ANY celeron. their cache size is so small that they feel incredibly slow under load despite their clock speeds. if you want a cheap and easy upgrade a mobo+amd cpu combo from fry's can usually be found for $50-100. (that is if you happen to have a fry's). it's a great deal for a much faster cpu then both your 423 p4 and the pos celeron for not much money money (if not less with the adapter). hth 🙂
 
Do Dells still have proprietary PSU connectors? I know they used to... but I've been out of the loop for a while 😱
 
If you have a Dell Dimension 8100 you are out of luck for a new motherboard. It uses a proprietory 24-pin/16-pin power connector that is incompatible with anything else. If your game is playing fast enough I would just leave it.

If you need a faster computer you will have to ditch the motherboard. You can get a Duron 1.6MHz, generic case, and refurbished Nforce2 motherboard from newegg for about $110. Overclock the cpu to 2.0-2.1GHz and you will be in business. If you old system uses RDRAM you will have to replace the memory too. :frown:
 
A 1.4Ghz duron can beat a 2.8 celeron. Also that celeron might be a bit fass\ter than what you're running. That celeron may have very little cache but it does support Asynchronous caching unlike the socket 423's and non revision A socket 478. It would be an upgrade but i would highly recommend just building your own PC and ditch the dells. All that proprietary sh!t is stupid.

-Kevin
 
Thanks for all the replys. I will be changing motherboard to a KT600A with a AMD XP2500+ OC to 3200+, I have to change the Power Supply beecause Dell use Proprietary power supplys and motherboards.
 
Originally posted by: Claybear
Thanks for all the replys. I will be changing motherboard to a KT600A with a AMD XP2500+ OC to 3200+, I have to change the Power Supply beecause Dell use Proprietary power supplys and motherboards.
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If you are overclocking, i reccomend the Abit NF7 or Abit NF7-S. I did exactly what you are going to do now (up to 3300+, 206fsb) and have the NF7-S. Really good ocing mobo
 
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