1.1Ghz @1155? Worth it?

[Nighthawk69]

Hey all-

I have been doing some testing lately and all I can get my T-Bird 1.1Ghz to is 1155Mhz stable at 105FSB (RAM at 138 CAS3). Is it worth running it overclocked for the extra 55Mhz? What do you all think?

Thanks!

 

[BurntKooshie]

Can you tell a differance? I hightly doubt it.... in that case, I wouldn't bother. But you might do it for bragging rights....in which case, you might want it "just to say you can". That's a valid reason...its like how guys tweak out cars and stuff. BUT....it potentially shortens the life of the CPU... and other components which are overclocked, so basically, all PCI devices....is it worth it? The risk is fairly low, but....is it worth it for no discernable difference in speed?

 

[kylebisme]

sure it is, every bit helps

 

[toph99]

have you tried putting the multiplier to 12 and see if you can hit 1.2ghz?

 

[cmaMath13]

I thought you needed a goldfinger to manipulate multiplier of Thunderbird? Are they locked?

 

[BurntKooshie]

The old athlons are mult locked which required either a soldering iron and steady hands, or a goldfinger.

New athlons you connect certain "golden bridges" on the top of the CPU (because its in socket form instead of slot now), and can change the multiplier that way.

 

[cmaMath13]

Could you direct me to an article about doing it. I am curious.

Thanks.

 

[BurntKooshie]

AnandTech is a great site Searching through the site often produces wonderful results

Anand did an article about it here

 

[Mustanggt]

Nighthawk69 you would think you could get more than 55 MHz out of that badboy? i would try some different testing. good luck

 

[cmaMath13]

I really don't want to physically mess with the cpu. I was hoping they were unlocked, like the first pentium 2 were. I guess I can just adjust the fsb if I want to.

Thanks for the link.

 

[paulip88]

well, I wouldn't consider unlocking these socket A's as really messing with the CPU. Its too simple of a process. More skill is involved in the removal and installation of the HSF.

 

[Sugadaddy]

Yeah, it's just making 4 little lines with a pencil, even easier than writing your name

And BTW, that 1100 can surely go higher than 1155 with multiplier adjustments. You're limited by the kt133 chipset, which rarely goes over 110, and 105 is normal.

 

[cmaMath13]

Really.


I guess I need to look at the article some more. I have overclocking experience, I just don't "want to fix something that isn't broke".

Thanks for the input.

 

[cmaMath13]

Nighthawk69,

I did a quick calculations and your overclocked cpu is running ONLY 5% faster! Lets say that the overclock translates into directly in FPS on your favorite video game that averages 60fps (which it would not of course). Now your video game would be running a 63fps. Not much of an increase, plus the results would not translate directly.

I don't think 55MHz of 1100MHz is worth it. (My humble opinion).

 

[paulip88]

So you don't want to fix something that isn't broke? That's not the kind of attitude I want to hear.

However, I think its more of a question of getting the most value out of the product.

 

[cmaMath13]

Yeah, I know. But I just got this system and I don't want to F$&# anything up. I have done it in the past and right now the system is "SWEET".

I agree with you value comment, but 55MHz?

 

[TheOverlord]

cma, i recommend using a pencil to trace the bridges and try o'c the chip with 100mhz bus speed and different multipliers...if you have a good hs/f combo then it should do really well...and if its not so great a gain then you can always erase them and have a normal chip again

 

[Renob]

Cmamath you hang out in the overclockers fourm??? but you dont overclock???? You do have a sweet system I agree but dont you want a MONSTER system that rig of your is begging to be overclocked now go crank that badboy of yours up. and let us see some real benchmarks your bench marks are good but there not realy yours someone else built your system would you not like to come into the fourm and bragg about how well you OCed your system then those benchmarks would truly become yours... No go have some fun OCing just start out slow, up the fsb to 105 and bump you volts up a little your not going to hurt it....... Good luck and have fun

 

[cmaMath13]

Yes, I do hang out in the CPU/Overclockers forum and I have successfully overclock CPUs(p2 350@400MHz, p3 450@558MHz and p3 coppermine650@806) and Video cards (voodoo2 and tnt2u). I just have not physically messed with a cpu. I always adjusted the Multiplier on the mobo or adjusted the fsb. Let me read the article on overclocking the Athlon.

I terms of cooling. Here is my cpu cooler:

Chrome Orb Cooler

Thanks for the comments.

 

[BurntKooshie]

Except for a few P2's, which may (or might not, depends on which version it is) be multiplier unlocked, all newer intel chips are multiplier locked. You could "fiddle with the chips" all you wanted, and not every do anything good as far as changing the multiplier is concerned. Intel's mult locks are hard, on-the-die locks. AMD's is a physical lock, but one that can ge changed via electrical trickery.

 

[cmaMath13]

I just visited overclockers.com and there are NO results for the 1100MHz TB. Does anyone know of any other databases of oveclocked cpus?

 

[Renob]

You can be the first at overclockers.com with 1100 no crank that badboy up. Its not rocket science were doing here.....

 

[Dynamix3D]

Dude 55Mhz is not worth it. If you think you are gonna see a difference in 55Mhz you are really nuts. Just leave it at 1.1Ghz and be happy that you are one of the very few out there to even own one.

 

[Nighthawk69]

Sorry it took so long to get back

Thanks for the replies -- I haven't fooled with unlocking the multiplier and I'm sure it would go higher if I did.. I have only fooled with the FSB and yes, 55Mhz does nothing

Thanks again everyone!