"0% credit card balance transfer" -- please don't believe it !

supernova87a

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wanted to relate a story to you all: a friend of mine, who is pretty financially responsible, has been getting more serious with his g/f, and maybe as a symbol of his devotion, recently offered to take her credit card debt. She is not very responsible, and racked up ~$5000 on her high interest card. The stated deal is that the balance transfered will be charged no interest (0% APR as they say) until December.

However, I recently got one of these deals in the mail, and after looking through it carefully out of curiosity, I have discovered the catch. After you transfer the balance and then continue to make your own purchases on the card as before, even if you always paid your balance in full, you are now screwed. Why? Because "payments are applied to the portion of the balance with the lowest interest rate".

Ie. although you thought that you wouldn't be paying any interest on that $5000 you transfered, you're now paying top interest on your new purchases. It's a false savings.

For example, if you usually pay your balance in full, say $500 per month, you might assume that doing the same would cost you no interest after you had transfered that $5000 balance over. Wrong. Your monthly payment (which previously had been in full) is applied to the $5000 transferred balance, and you now have $4500 to pay at 0% and $500 to pay at 10%. Continue this for several months, up to when you thought it would be time to pay off the balance, and you'll have $0 owed at 0%, and $5000 owed at %10. Back where you started, thank you very much. And now they're asking for their money. NOW.

So, don't believe it when they say 0% balance transfer (at least not for most people who keep on using that account). Be careful with your finances, and remember, debt is debt. You don't get out of it for free!

Just wanted to pass this along!
 

mss242

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yeah, but that's why you don't use it for purchases. Instead, you use another one with 0% apr for purchases. The availability of 0% cards is one of the few advantages of a crappy economy.
 

prontospyder

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Originally posted by: mss242
yeah, but that's why you don't use it for purchases. Instead, you use another one with 0% apr for purchases. The availability of 0% cards is one of the few advantages of a crappy economy.

True, I just use a card with 0% on purchases. But thanks for the tip. :)
 

Mallow

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supernova87a - you bring up a very good point not many people realize. However, the trick is to have a card exclusively for balance transfers and then don't make any more purchases on that card. My mom has an amex for balance transfers and then she doesn't buy anything else on that card. She uses a mastercard for all other CC purchases.

thx for the info tho bud.
 

RossMAN

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This should be common knowledge but it isn't.

Rule of thumb
1) If you're getting a 0% balance transfer cc, use it ONLY for the balance transfer (do not use it for regular purchases).
2) If you do make regular purchases, pay it off in full every month so you're not hit with finance charges.
 

zCypher

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I'd just like to chime in that my CC balance is $0.00 as of not long ago. :)

My balance was $1000-1700 for quite some time. Weeeee :D

Edit: no I didn't use any balance transfer CCs or anything.
 

prontospyder

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Originally posted by: zCypher
I'd just like to chime in that my CC balance is $0.00 as of not long ago. :)

My balance was $1000-1700 for quite some time. Weeeee :D

Edit: no I didn't use any balance transfer CCs or anything.

congrats! :) Hopefully, I'll have mine paid off before the 0% offer expires.

 

rufruf44

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Originally posted by: RossMAN
This should be common knowledge but it isn't.

Rule of thumb
1) If you're getting a 0% balance transfer cc, use it ONLY for the balance transfer (do not use it for regular purchases).
2) If you do make regular purchases, pay it off in full every month so you're not hit with finance charges.


Amen to that, and pay close attention when the balance transfer offer expires. I almost got hit by Discover since according to them, my balance transfer expires 1 month earlier than what they TOLD me. Have to get a supervisor to waive the finance charges.
 

RossMAN

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Originally posted by: lnguyen
and how many of those 0% transfer are transfer fee-free? not many unfortunately. Always go lookin for that clause.

Most of them but you have to know where to look, here's one of the best.

CitiBank credit card
0% APR balance transfer for 12 months
No balance transfer fees
No annual fees
1% cash rebate on all purchases (no BT)
 

Blieb

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And this is news to?

Everyone knows that's how it works. Did you really think they'd pay off what you owe the most of first?

How would they make any money on that deal?

EXACTLY.
 

notfred

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You don't get cards with 0% on balance transfers and use them to buy things! You use them to pay off debt without getting stuck with interest.

Wasn't this the whole point in the first place? Get rid of her debt? What the hell is he doing buying more stuff on the card?
 

Ime

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I never touched my g/f's debt, when we got engaged I started pulling her credit history and helped her form a plan (she was not very fiscally responsible), after we got married I took over the finances (both her's and mine) and have raised her credit score 150 points in 10 months. :)

I hope that guy knows what he's doing... as I said I never got near my g/f's money issues until we were engaged, and even then I did not take on her debt until we married. Hopefully she doesn't screw him big time.
 

dullard

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Originally posted by: lnguyen
and how many of those 0% transfer are transfer fee-free? not many unfortunately. Always go lookin for that clause.
That is the most difficult one to spot. A few cards (luckilly in the minority) charge you a fee to transfer the balance out. So if you had $5000 balance on card X and transferred it to card Y, company X might just transfer over $5500. That extra 10% or so makes up for their loss of profits from you paying interest. It is quite difficult to find that charge in some fine prints.
 

Garet Jax

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I actually didn't know this. It makes sense (for them) that it works this way, but I never knew that.

Before you all jump on me for being stupid, I never run a credit card balance. Therefore I have never needed the 0% apr cards and have never investigated them.
 

supernova87a

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Originally posted by: Garet Jax
I actually didn't know this. It makes sense (for them) that it works this way, but I never knew that.

Before you all jump on me for being stupid, I never run a credit card balance. Therefore I have never needed the 0% apr cards and have never investigated them.

that's why it was news to me too!