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killster1 said:
get them into usenet so its not p2p? I dont know how well anyones ideas wiill work against a determined kid. They can just Install their own windows and unplug the router and plug it into the modem when you are not there right? i guess locking your case setting OS restrictions to not be able to install anything and locking the modem in a box will solve it? or just take the modem with you when you leave the house?
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well, it's possible to physically harden the modem/router against tampering. IE, putting them inside a locking box and bolting that box to the wall.

but the real problem here is if you have that kind of antagonistic relationship to that degree with your own children, then you fail as a parent.

honestly speaking, usenet is imo the best idea. my parents told us not to use any sort of p2p, of course we ignored them. we weren't dumb enough to download anything anyone cared about, though... but we still got a couple cease and desist warnings over downloading anime.

so i stopped using bittorrent. i have since switched to IRC and usenet. and tbh, i prefer them.

I still think the OP should set up rules against torrenting on his network because as he said, he has a lot of users he has no control over.

it's either that, or MAC address filtering.

i suppose you could drop the unknown's onto a different subnet, and for them say no bittorrent, and for the knowns bittorrent still allowed. it DOES have legitimate uses.
 
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I doubt he's a bad parent, kids are kids.

Most teenagers have the idea that they will not get sued for downloading a few songs. So if dad says don't, they think it won't hurt to download 5 songs and that's it. The OP's trying to cover his ass.

This thread is going off-topic, and I just added to it :\
 
alfa147x said:
I doubt he's a bad parent, kids are kids.

Most teenagers have the idea that they will not get sued for downloading a few songs. So if dad says don't, they think it won't hurt to download 5 songs and that's it. The OP's trying to cover his ass.

This thread is going off-topic, and I just added to it :\
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lol, i wasnt implying the op was a bad parent. my response was a general one. just the idea that one would have to go to that sort of lengths to do something that could be accomplished by other means -> kinda silly.

on a slightly related tangent:

tbh, i'm kinda curious how parents who pirate media deal with teaching morals to their kids. it would seem to me that said pirates have some sort of internal justification as to why it's okay for them to download that song, or that movie, or whatever. and they know the limits of that justification... but the kid wont. how does that work? 0.o
 
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I salute you on your efforts. Here's what I recommend.

Limited accounts that restrict their ability to download P2P programs
Updated passwords so they can't undo your changes
MAC address filtering for other devices that they might sneak in
Router-based firewall to block out P2P traffic
 
If they need to use the internet for anything, have them use a computer that runs off of KIOSK software. If they need to use a computer for school / research purposes, then make sure the computer is locked down and in a public place that you can monitor their usage.

Let the kids know that using the internet at your place is a PRIVILEGE, not a RIGHT
 
Fayd said:
well, it's possible to physically harden the modem/router against tampering. IE, putting them inside a locking box and bolting that box to the wall.

but the real problem here is if you have that kind of antagonistic relationship to that degree with your own children, then you fail as a parent.

honestly speaking, usenet is imo the best idea. my parents told us not to use any sort of p2p, of course we ignored them. we weren't dumb enough to download anything anyone cared about, though... but we still got a couple cease and desist warnings over downloading anime.

so i stopped using bittorrent. i have since switched to IRC and usenet. and tbh, i prefer them.

I still think the OP should set up rules against torrenting on his network because as he said, he has a lot of users he has no control over.

it's either that, or MAC address filtering.

i suppose you could drop the unknown's onto a different subnet, and for them say no bittorrent, and for the knowns bittorrent still allowed. it DOES have legitimate uses.
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id say you fail as a human if you think anyone is going to listen to anything(jk) . Only people that seem to follow rules are the super religious folks and then sometimes they seem to be worst or rebel the most. I like my lock box technique because face it even a lock box but it will have to be a good one since a simple one wont stop a determined kid. just Google bump key. I know my buddy took the hinges off his dads locked box in garage to get firecrackers. I bought a identical gun lock as the one to get access to gun to shoot before as well, (ya lame lots gun locks use same keys)

One side not i have the asus 520 that was suggested for wrt, i run tomato on it and had to do few things to get it to work, Had to run as admin to get it to flash (windows 7) and had to clear the vram (about 5 times) on it to get it to login to tomato (i wanted to use the usb on it for network storage not just printer and wasnt sure if wrt was going to do that for me)
 
Seems like the easiest thing to do here would be to log onto your router, which you presumably already have, and make some changes to its setup regarding "access control" or "port filtering" or whatever it is called on your particular router.

You would then block access to all ports except the ones you need. Most modern routers have the ability to block traffic to and from specific ports so this would probably be the best way to go.

Use this list to figure out which ports to open...it should only be a few...and the rest are closed:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_TCP_and_UDP_port_numbers
 
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