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  1. irrationalJohn

    Are the Kingston V+200 SSD model KW-S2120-4B and SVP200S3 identical?

    Kingston appears to have two different model numbers for an SSD they refer to as the Kingston SSDNow V+200 120GB SATA III. The model numbers are: KW-S2120-4B and SVP200S3. I was wondering if anyone knows what, if any, are the differences between the two different model numbers? (Or, to...
  2. irrationalJohn

    *** Official Gigabyte P965-DS3 Thread ***

    How strange and unexpected. :frown: While it is common these days to not include a speaker that is mounted to the case, usually the case maker will instead supply a small "button size" speaker which you plug directly onto the motherboard's speaker pins. (I'm pretty sure I've got one of those...
  3. irrationalJohn

    *** Official Gigabyte P965-DS3 Thread ***

    @Imported So long as you've got the BIOS settings for the "onboard SATA controller" (aka JMicron 363 controller) set to "Enabled" and "IDE", you do not need to install any drivers. Just plug in the SATA device and it should be detected and work fine. You would need to install a device driver...
  4. irrationalJohn

    *** Official Gigabyte P965-DS3 Thread ***

    In hindsight, I suppose I should have mentioned that FWIW I am using 2GB of Corsair XMS CM2X1024-6400 (TWIN2X2048-6400) which is what you've got, correct? The RAM is running with stock SPD timings at 800MHz with no problems that I am aware of. I've got my voltages set to manual (because I'm...
  5. irrationalJohn

    *** Official Gigabyte P965-DS3 Thread ***

    Depends. Did you change the timing settings for your RAM in the BIOS? If not and you're just running with the default settings from your memory's SPD then you shouldn't need to bump the voltage. The 1.9v (in your case) would be needed to ensure the memory worked at the advertised timings. The...
  6. irrationalJohn

    *** Official Gigabyte P965-DS3 Thread ***

    It wasn't clear to me from your OP, but it sounds like you are saying you can overclock your DS3, but only when the X-FI sound card is not plugged in. Yes? No? (If that's the case, then I have no idea what is going on. :() -john
  7. irrationalJohn

    *** Official Gigabyte P965-DS3 Thread ***

    I think that was a question. :) In other words, have you changed the setting for PCI Express from "Auto" to "100 MHz"? I had problems when trying to overclock until I did that. (My DS3 rev 3.3 would hang on me in the BIOS with no PCI cards installed). FWIW, you'll probably also need to change...
  8. irrationalJohn

    *** Official Gigabyte P965-DS3 Thread ***

    Yes it's normal. Or at least it matches my experience. I honestly don't know what the correct CPU temperature is. Gigabyte's EasyTune 5 reads the temp at around 10 C at idle. Core Temp 0.95 shows the temps of Core 0/1 at 22/25 C respectively. All of them seem extremely low to me. But who...
  9. irrationalJohn

    *** Official Gigabyte P965-DS3 Thread ***

    :confused: Not sure what you mean. Here's a link to the GA-965P-DS3 (rev. 3.3) on the Gigabyte website. Are you looking for something else on the website related to rev 3.3 DS3? Yeah, that would cause the problem you were seeing ... at least it did in my experience. Those other settings "near...
  10. irrationalJohn

    *** Official Gigabyte P965-DS3 Thread ***

    I can't really tell much about what is going on for you from the above information. I'm guessing that you have a 965P-DS3 because of the thread you're posting to. But aside from that you haven't mentioned which revision of the motherboard you have (1.0, 2.0, or 3.3?) and which BIOS version you...
  11. irrationalJohn

    *** Official Gigabyte P965-DS3 Thread ***

    If you're talking about the Intel Matrix Storage drivers, then, no, the Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 does not meet the requirements. The 965P-DS3 comes with an Intel ICH8 southbridge. Intel RAID support is only provided by the Intel ICH8R southbridge. You do not need to install any drivers ... other...
  12. irrationalJohn

    Gigabyte 965P-DS3 Rev 3.3 - Techs, HELP!

    I am basically just lurking and watching this thread, but I wanted to thank you for your description of your Northbridge removal experience. I've been considering removing the NB heat sink and redoing the thermal paste. But after your description ... particularly the "snapping sound" ... I'm...
  13. irrationalJohn

    Gigabyte 965P-DS3 Rev 3.3 - Techs, HELP!

    If you set it to IDE mode in the BIOS, you do not need the Gigabyte/JMicron drivers to use the JMicron 363 controller on the Gigabyte 965P-DS3. The drivers are only used to support AHCI or RAID mode on the JMicron controller. My experience was that you won't be able to install the Intel Matrix...
  14. irrationalJohn

    *** Official Gigabyte P965-DS3 Thread ***

    So are you saying that you now have SP2 installed and Windows sees more of the drive, but still not all of it? If it were me, I wouldn't trust the original XP installation. I suppose it's probably OK, but I'd still be nervous about it. (I'm a paranoid kind of guy). If you are going to...
  15. irrationalJohn

    *** Official Gigabyte P965-DS3 Thread ***

    Hard to guess without more history about the drive and how it was installed/used. I assume you're talking about a Seagate 320GB 7200.10 SATA drive, correct? You wouldn't happen to be using any operating system other than Windows XP SP2 (or Vista, of course)? If so, then as a another post...
  16. irrationalJohn

    Gigabyte : new series of P965 rev 3.3 boards ...

    Gigabyte has added a Benefits of the GIGABYTE rev 3.3 Motherboards "article" to their Geeks Column of the Week section. While the main thrust of the article is of course to pump up sales of their motherboards, figured it was worth mentioning because it does say some (small) things I haven't...
  17. irrationalJohn

    Just ordered $800 worth of new parts *SOLVED*

    Edited to change the fact that I got this completely wrong the first time. :disgust: Changed the text below to say it's the JM363. I think I have it right now. I believe the Gigabyte S3/DS3 use the JMB363. Here's the reasoning (The idea is actually from "wusy" over on Tom's forumz). If you go...
  18. irrationalJohn

    Gigabyte : new series of P965 rev 3.3 boards ...

    Thanks for pointing that out. I should have mentioned in my OP that I did try that ... many, many, many times in fact :) ... and it was not the reason the NB and ICH temps didn't show up in the BIOS. I'll edit my post to clarify this, but thanks again for pointing out to me that I failed to...
  19. irrationalJohn

    Gigabyte : new series of P965 rev 3.3 boards ...

    The rev 3.3 DS3 I ordered from clubit.com arrived last Friday which is nearly a week ago by now. I still haven't migrated my primary system to it as I wanted to "play with it" a bit before locking into a set of configuration choices. While doing this I have noticed at least one nice change as...
  20. irrationalJohn

    *** Official Gigabyte P965-DS3 Thread ***

    Open the device manager. First make sure that your LiteOn DVD drive shows up under "DVD/CD-ROM drives". Next open the device properties for the drive and check that it has the status "working properly". If all that is fine, then look under the "Properties" tab of the drive's properties. There...
  21. irrationalJohn

    *** Official Gigabyte P965-DS3 Thread ***

    No. I don't know much about "AHCI" but apparantly it's an acronym coined by Intel and refers to support for several SATA "extensions" such as hot-plugging, NCQ and probaly other stuff I don't know anything about. The transfer rate of a CD/DVD drive is limited by the speed at which a CD or...
  22. irrationalJohn

    *** Official Gigabyte P965-DS3 Thread ***

    Without knowing what makes a motherboard "good" in your eyes all I can say as an answer is a simple, "Yeah, sure. You-betcha!". :roll: If you want more details, try googling around for review articles that discuss the Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3. There are probably only a couple hundred of them...
  23. irrationalJohn

    Gigabyte : new series of P965 rev 3.3 boards ...

    Not sure if I was looking at the same $15 PayPal rebate you used, but the one I looked at contains the following restriction (among others): "You are only eligible for this offer if you receive this offer in an email sent to you directly from PayPal". The offer I saw contained this qualifying...
  24. irrationalJohn

    Gigabyte : new series of P965 rev 3.3 boards ...

    Reassuring to hear that. BTW, what memory did you finally decide to go with? Just curious as I've got to buy some memory myself sometime this week to be ready when the DS3 shows up. -john
  25. irrationalJohn

    Gigabyte : new series of P965 rev 3.3 boards ...

    Well, that did it for me. Just placed my order. I first started looking for a Core 2 Duo system back on Oct 23 of 2006 with the words ... now totally ridiculous in hindsight ... "I don't want to spend much beyond $300". :D Ah, what a fool, what a maroon I was. What an ignoranimous! Feels...
  26. irrationalJohn

    Gigabyte : new series of P965 rev 3.3 boards ...

    Here are links to the three different revisions listed on Gigabyte's web site. GA-965P-DS3 (rev 1.0) GA-965P-DS3 (rev 2.0) GA-965P-DS3 (rev 3.3) BTW, the only difference that I have found so far in the content of these three different links is in the BIOS listings. Am I missing...
  27. irrationalJohn

    Gigabyte : new series of P965 rev 3.3 boards ...

    Good question. I had always assumed that the revision number would be easy to spot on the motherboard. But I looked at some review photos for the GA-965P-DS3 (rev 1.0) (all that I could find with a quick google) and nothing screamed "Revision 1.0" that I could see. EDIT: Apparently I just...
  28. irrationalJohn

    Gigabyte : new series of P965 rev 3.3 boards ...

    Please post back after you receive the board. I'd be interested in hearing how this actually turns out for you. (It's surprising how many seller's can't seem to track which version of the motherboard they carry) :( -john
  29. irrationalJohn

    Gigabyte : new series of P965 rev 3.3 boards ...

    I don't feel qualified to give recommendations about memory, but here's my two cents FWIW. I'd go with the Corsair as long as you can get the "good price". :) Unless you routinely do very long running CPU/memory intensive tasks you are unlikely to even notice the benefit of the Patriot's lower...
  30. irrationalJohn

    Gigabyte : new series of P965 rev 3.3 boards ...

    :shocked: :shocked: ?? Sweet &Deity. ?? :shocked: :shocked: You still don't even have the review board? :shocked: Guess I'd better toss out any hope that a review will show up a little later this week. :( Are you still under a NDA or has that expired? It would be nice if you could at least...
  31. irrationalJohn

    Gigabyte : new series of P965 rev 3.3 boards ...

    Why would you need handpicked DRAM? 1333 FSB just needs DDR2-667 to run 1:1, no? As for running "any C2D" at 1333 FSB ... who knows. There are no guarantees but based on what's been reported so far it sure seems a very likely bet that it will work. :) -john, the ostensibly clueless...
  32. irrationalJohn

    Gigabyte : new series of P965 rev 3.3 boards ...

    FWIW (which admittedly ain't much), Google turned up a link with a box picture. At least someone, somewhere seems to be able to buy the boards so it looks like Gigabyte is actually shipping (some of) them. Gigabyte GA-965P-DS4 v3.3 supports 1333FSB CPU E6850 and E6x00 seriesGigabyte -john...
  33. irrationalJohn

    The Unofficial ASUS P5N-E SLI 650i Board Thread

    One of the things I'd really be interested in finding out about would be why on earth there was a 412 limit in the first place? Looking in from the outside it seems to make little to no sense. -john, the redundant legacy dinosaur
  34. irrationalJohn

    The Unofficial ASUS P5N-E SLI 650i Board Thread

    At this point I don't think we know for sure whether it's a BIOS/Asus or Nvidia chipset restriction. We're just speculating and waiting for a review or article to show up that will hopefully clarify this. Either way, it's sort of a choice between disappointing news and really bad news. :( I...
  35. irrationalJohn

    The Unofficial ASUS P5N-E SLI 650i Board Thread

    Only mentioned this because (1) it's the only semi-solid non-speculation I have at the moment and (2) to align it with your comment about your current motherboard not making it over 300. If Asus is claiming 333FSB support then they must be pretty damn sure that their board won't have problems...
  36. irrationalJohn

    The Unofficial ASUS P5N-E SLI 650i Board Thread

    And, again, the difference as I understand it is that Intel has never said you're supposed to be able to do anything above 266 with their current chipsets, so if it does work you're "lucky". If it doesn't, you're only getting what you were supposed to expect to get. I'm not sure what Nvidia's...
  37. irrationalJohn

    Which fits better: 680i or 650i

    Judging from the number of folks out there who are willing to pay a premium to get PC2-6400 or higher DRAM, it seems to matter to quite a few. Why people are willing to pay a premium price for a higher manufacturer rating for their memory but consider it irrelevant when it comes to a motherboard...
  38. irrationalJohn

    Which fits better: 680i or 650i

    I was not thinking about what Asus guarantees. I was thinking about statements I believe I have read in articles about the Nvidea 600i series. In other words, it's my belief that in the case of the 650i the chipset maker is guaranteeing that you can reach those speeds. What FSB speed guarantees...
  39. irrationalJohn

    Which fits better: 680i or 650i

    So you basically feel more confident in the overclocking stability of a chipset which Intel (I assume) won't guarantee above 266MHz? :roll: To each their own. :) -john
  40. irrationalJohn

    The Unofficial ASUS P5N-E SLI 650i Board Thread

    A 412.5MHz FSB and an E6400 with an 8 multiplier works out to 3.3GHz. With an E6600 with a 9 multiplier it's just a tad over 3.7GHz. So, yes, if you have your heart set on either an E6300 (or "less":)) or overclocking beyond 3.3/3.7GHz with an E6400/E6600 then this is definitely a deal breaker...