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    [Retired] The LCD Thread

    Thanks. I don't really think a VA panel is an option for me since I'm after a low input lag display, and some of the other things I've read about them have convinced me that I don't want one. It's probably going to be either TN or IPS for me. I suppose you don't think the 2007FP is worth...
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    [Retired] The LCD Thread

    Hi xtknight, I ordered a V2400W about a month ago, and despite not being terribly impressed by it I'd decided that I would keep it since even halfway decent monitor choices seem to be disappearing rapidly. However, I've found that I'm pretty annoyed by the TN viewing angles and the...
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    Weird problem with P5K Premium, won't POST

    Thanks. I'm even more convinced that it's the board now, then. I don't have another socket 775 CPU around here to try, though I do have some other sticks of RAM that I could try before sending it back. I doubt that both of my sticks managed to die at the same time, though. I've already...
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    Weird problem with P5K Premium, won't POST

    After running flawlessly for over a year, my system is suddenly no longer starting. What's really strange about this is the way it failed: I first noticed something was wrong when my desktop background had disappeared after I exited from a game. A message popped up in the system tray...
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    [Retired] The LCD Thread

    Well, I was initially concerned about it because I know from experience that ~30ms is noticeable to me. I had an LP2065 for a while which was noticeably laggier than a Dell 2007WFP or my CRT -- it wasn't by a huge amount at all, but I could detect it without testing the input lag with a camera...
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    [Retired] The LCD Thread

    Do you happen to know whether the G2400WD has the same levels of input lag, or is it closer to the near-zero input lag on the G2400W? Some people have speculated that it's really just a V2400W with a different stand, so I was thinking it might -- I haven't been able to find any information on it...
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    [Retired] The LCD Thread

    Well, that's a bit concerning to me. I think the over saturation would definitely get under my skin if it's hard to correct in programs that aren't color-aware/support profiles. I honestly don't understand why LCD manufacturers are pushing this so much when it's clearly not ready -- it's just...
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    [Retired] The LCD Thread

    Have you heard anything about how easy the oversaturation of standard gamut material is to correct on the DS-263N? Apparently it has a color saturation option in the OSD, and I haven't heard as many people complaining about the wide gamut on this monitor as on others so I'm assuming it's not too...
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    CRT's vs LCD...yes I'm serious.

    Funny, that's actually exactly what I said after trying LCDs for a few months. Then I went back to a CRT.
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    [Retired] The LCD Thread

    It's entirely possible that I just got a bad one, I guess. As I said on my post at Hardforum, I have a hard time imagining how anyone could be pleased with it if they were all like that. Not really even a matter of being picky or not -- it was poor in comparison to just about every other cheap...
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    [Retired] The LCD Thread

    I finally decided to check out some 22" TNs to see if I'd be any happier with one of those, but I haven't had much luck so far. I narrowed down my choices to the LG W2252TQ or Samsung 226BW since both have very low input lag and were thought to support at least a 75 Hz refresh rate without any...
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    [Retired] The LCD Thread

    Actually, I doubt there's anything wrong with the tube. What you described sounds pretty much like a textbook example of the brightness bug to me, and the bug seems to be entirely firmware related. The fix detailed in that thread (reducing the G2 voltage through Windas) should fix it no matter...
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    [Retired] The LCD Thread

    Yes, that's me unfortunately. Since I don't think any of the IPS screens I've tried will cut it due to various issues (grainy or overly reflective coating, flickering, etc.), I've been thinking I might try a more modern TN now that I'm not aiming to completely replace my CRT with it. Funnily...
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    [Retired] The LCD Thread

    Your CRT hasn't actually "burned out". The later generations of Trinitrons have a firmware issue that causes them to become overly bright as they age. In some cases, it seems to be hastened by using the "color return" function that's in the on-screen menu on a few models. Since yours already...
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    [Retired] The LCD Thread

    All right, thanks. I'm going to head down to the Microcenter near me this weekend and see if they have a better selection than Best Buy, which has practically nothing here, and I'll see if they have any of your recommendations or anything decent at all. I'm still a little unsure of VA panels...
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    [Retired] The LCD Thread

    I might have some trouble fitting a 22" -- the 20" I tried were already a bit of a tight fit with my 19" CRT. I'll probably be replacing my CRT with one of the larger 21" Dell P1130s I have lying around here soon as well, so if fitting a 22" proves to be impossible I might have to go with a...
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    [Retired] The LCD Thread

    I don't actually notice the ghosting that much in games, surprisingly enough. What I do notice is being limited to 60 FPS thanks to the 60Hz refresh rate and that is definitely contributing to the eyestrain a little, but I knew it was going to be like that going into this. On the whole games...
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    [Retired] The LCD Thread

    Refund. I'm going to consider my options after that and decide whether I really want another LCD, I guess. I was just wondering whether this is normal or not for the LP2065 in case I ever decide to try another. I could still try the 2007FP, but it could be just as bad. I don't know whether...
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    [Retired] The LCD Thread

    Well, I've requested an RMA for my LP2065. I considered keeping it even despite the other issues, but the color problems are really getting to me. It's never looked right even out of the box -- 9300K makes white look very blue, and the default 6500K is a dark orange that's tough to see...
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    [Retired] The LCD Thread

    I don't think I'd be willing to buy a TN or VA sight unseen, but I'll head over to Best Buy or some other store tomorrow and see if they have any of those on display, or if any of the other screens look palatable there. Thanks for the suggestions. And yeah, the flickering is definitely being...
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    [Retired] The LCD Thread

    Way too big, unfortunately. Even a 22" would be a bit of a pain with my current set up, actually. I guess I should try the 2007FP, but I'm debating whether I even want another one of these at the moment. It's almost certainly going to have the same flickering problem (I just don't know how...
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    [Retired] The LCD Thread

    The 2007s are 6-bit? I thought nearly all S-IPS displays were 8-bit. I looked at the 2090UXi a bit ago, but the price is just too high for such a small screen. I'm not really willing to go significantly over $400. And as you said, the amount of input lag is unknown. The 2070NX is definitely...
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    [Retired] The LCD Thread

    I don't think I'm really changing my opinion about it. Now that the monitor's been on for a while I can see it more clearly again, but it still doesn't seem as bad as before. Maybe I'm just getting used to it? I actually asked someone else to take a look at the yellow patch when I first noticed...
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    [Retired] The LCD Thread

    Yeah, both the Dell and HP are on DVI. I can't adjust the sharpness on either unless they're in a non-native resolution, which they are not. You do sort of get used to to the anti-glare. Now that I've been using these for a little under a month, it's definitely not bothering me as much as it...
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    [Retired] The LCD Thread

    No, that's not true. My A8 is an S-IPS, and it seems as if many people who have bought them recently have gotten S-IPS panels too. I've actually not even heard of a single A-MVA A8, but I'm sure that some do exist. If you buy one, just check the box when you receive it to make sure it has a...
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    [Retired] The LCD Thread

    I've never seen any of the newer IPS panels such as the one in your Planar in person, but every older IPS display I've seen glows purple in the corners at least a little even if I'm sitting directly in front of and level with it while it's displaying black. The newer panels are supposed to...
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    [Retired] The LCD Thread

    I set up both displays in clone mode and I've been able to confirm what I felt: the LP2065 does indeed have more lag than the Dell. Shot 1 Shot 2 Shot 3 The HP was the primary display, if it matters, and the Dell was set to 1280x1024 with the internal scaler disabled. The LP2065 was...
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    [Retired] The LCD Thread

    Well, my LP2065 just came in. It's a rev. 115 S-IPS (GSM002 code). Still messing with it, but here are a few first impressions: ? It flickers significantly less than my 2007WFP. This actually came as quite a surprise. When looking at a fully gray background at the lagom.nl LCD test site...
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    [Retired] The LCD Thread

    Thanks guys. I've ordered an LP2065, and I'm going to test it against my 2007WFP when it gets here and keep whichever one I feel is better. I've gotten used to the 2007WFP's quirks, and it's definitely a step above my aging CRT for working with text. If the LP2065 is basically the same thing...
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    [Retired] The LCD Thread

    Thanks for the information. That pretty much exactly describes what I see on my 2007WFP. Also, I was wondering: what kind of affect would the tighter pixel pitch that the LP2065 has over the widescreen 20.1" panels have on the "screen door effect" that's supposed to be worse on IPS panels...
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    [Retired] The LCD Thread

    If it's anything like the Dell's coating, it is indeed terrible. I don't think there are any 20" IPS displays available that don't have it other than the 20WMGX2, which goes to the opposite end of the spectrum and has a ridiculously reflective glossy coating. Given the choice between the two I'd...
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    [Retired] The LCD Thread

    Have you noticed any flickering on gray colors? I'm sorry to hear that the coating isn't very good. I've been considering returning my 2007WFP for an LP2065, and I was really hoping that the coating wouldn't look quite as sparkly or "dusty" as the Dell's -- it's really quite annoying on...
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    [Retired] The LCD Thread

    Actually, both of the 20WMGX2s I tried exhibited the "rolling wave" effect that people have complained about on the 2007s and the LP2065 on solid gray. It was all but unnoticeable on most other colors though, and I had to set the brightness quite low for it to show up. I noticed it immediately...
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    [Retired] The LCD Thread

    Yeah, I saw that particular problem when scrolling on my 20WMGX2 as well, but the Dell seems to be free of it. It just flickers constantly. The NEC did as well on grayish colors, but I seem to recall that I had to lower the brightness a bit before it became noticeable. It was immediately evident...
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    [Retired] The LCD Thread

    Well, my 2007WFP (S-IPS, thankfully) came in today. Not quite sure what to think yet. It's not horrible, but it definitely has a few problems. The coating is much stronger than I would have thought. I'm not sure why they felt the need to go so overboard with it. I have an LCD here with much...
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    [Retired] The LCD Thread

    Okay, you've convinced me. :) It's been ordered. Hopefully I win the lottery. Not too worried about compatibility with recent games, but I know I have a couple older ones that will have to be run centered at 1400x1050 if I don't use my CRT. It's not a big deal, though. I've heard some...
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    [Retired] The LCD Thread

    xtknight - what are your thoughts on widescreen vs. 4:3 in the 20" range? I know you recommended the 2007WFP earlier, but I'm left wondering what the advantage of widescreen in this size is exactly. It seems like you trade pixel density, compatibility, and a lot of vertical for only a little...
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    [Retired] The LCD Thread

    Not many above 19" can, to my knowledge. Most larger displays will just skip frames if set above 60Hz, sadly. xtknight would be better qualified to answer that than myself, but that seems quite strange to me. An LCD should really look its best at 60Hz, especially if it's connected over...
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    [Retired] The LCD Thread

    I did see your post, but Onsale.com (and Macmall, which appear to be the same site -- very shady) have terrible reviews at ResellerRatings.com. Doesn't look like they'd allow you to return it if you lose the lottery, end up with dead pixels, or if you simply don't like it.
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    [Retired] The LCD Thread

    All right, if it's of any interest: I asked a friend of mine with an LP2065 to try it, and it does indeed sync at 72Hz over DVI. Unfortunately, it is limited to running at 60 internally. My friend said the stuttering wasn't clearly noticeable until he ran it at 1280x960 at 85Hz, but then it...