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    Extreme Steel Wastage from WTC 1 or 2 and WTC 7

    Hummmm sounds like the sticky thread above by IDONTCARE. check it out. You are on the bottom of the chart...name calling. LOL. the paper should be easy to refute. its just science.
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    Extreme Steel Wastage from WTC 1 or 2 and WTC 7

    Mxy- do you have a corrosion rate that is less than 10's of hrs (4 days) that can corrode the steel as much as the article states. Fire wise Professor Sisson of the Worchester Polytechnic Institute tried but could only get "little" metal to dissolve in 24hrs at 1100C and he even bypassed how a...
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    Extreme Steel Wastage from WTC 1 or 2 and WTC 7

    Wow. A new paper about the steel that was found at ground zero from the attacks on September 11 2001. Very interesting read for the technical person. Very informative. Pictures of the wasted away steel can be found at the end of the paper!! The microstructure of the steel point in the...
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    Audio of the explosives which brought down WTC 7

    are you serious!! please find out. im sure youve read the nanothermite paper. just get ya a magnet and try and find some of those red/gray chips!! send some to me!!
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    Audio of the explosives which brought down WTC 7

    he asked who benefited and netanyahu sure thinks israel did. AQ sure as hell didnt benefit....but the likud party does have some interesting connections: http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2003/3003likud_usgangsta.html Stephen L. Friedman and Menachem Atzmon: partners in Likud...
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    Audio of the explosives which brought down WTC 7

    man, this thread has gained about 10 pages since i last looked. cui bono? Report: Netanyahu says 9/11 terror attacks good for Israel The Israeli newspaper Ma'ariv on Wednesday reported that Likud leader Benjamin Netanyahu told an audience at Bar Ilan university that the September 11...
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    Audio of the explosives which brought down WTC 7

    i always liked what Sunder had to say about freefall. i guess sunder didnt know (at this point in time) that wtc 7 fell for a couple of seconds at freefall!! During the first round of questions in the Aug 26, 2008 NIST Technical Briefing (at 1:01:45 into the presentation) the following...
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    Israel: Commandos seize huge Iranian arms shipment

    i think the world knows you guys have nukes if that is what you are talking about......
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    Israel: Commandos seize huge Iranian arms shipment

    are you mossad? how would you know? but if you are mossad then i guess we can predict your actions according to your motto "by way of deception thou shalt do war." and from the army study group about the mossad: U.S. troops would enforce peace under Army study By Rowan Scarborough...
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    What brought down WTC7

    maybe you need to actually read about the steel from the towers and wtc 7. "Summary for Sample 1 1. The thinning of the steel occurred by a high-temperture corrosion due to a combination of oxidation and sulfidation. 2. Heating of the steel into a hot corrosive environment...
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    What brought down WTC7

    the "corrosion" was a very unexpected event. " Yet metallurgical studies on WTC steel brought back to WPI reveal that a novel phenomenon--called a eutectic reaction--occurred at the surface, causing intergranular melting capable of turning a solid steel girder into Swiss cheese."...
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    What brought down WTC7

    and the experts say (prof sisson) that little steel can be removed by the liquid "slag" theory in 24 hrs.
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    What brought down WTC7

    rarity? try again. from the wtc 7 debris pile: "A combination of an uncontrolled fire and the structural damage might have been able to bring the building down, some engineers said. But that would not explain steel members in the debris pile that appear to have been partly evaporated in...
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    What brought down WTC7

    thats a good one. so this piece the good dr saw was already burned and buckled maybe even yrs before the fires?? your really reaching man. http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/02/science/scarred-steel-holds-clues-and-remedies.html "One piece Dr. Astaneh-Asl saw was a charred horizontal I-beam...
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    What brought down WTC7

    does wallboard and the "corrosion" of 15.9 mm of a36 steel in 8 days have potential ground in real science?
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    What brought down WTC7

    well, ya know we got up, down, top, bottom, charm and strange SPIN on all available intel!! your a trip lunar. so are you still going into law? i remember somewhere back in the tread that you stated you went/ or going to law school. dont answer if ya think im getting too personal...
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    What brought down WTC7

    double post. trying to get the hang of this new layout
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    What brought down WTC7

    good point....
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    What brought down WTC7

    im guessing that you havent looked at the "data" from their website yet?
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    What brought down WTC7

    i just noticed that ae911truth.org is up to 952 architectural and engineering professionals!! http://www.ae911truth.org/ i wonder if that is more than nist has?
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    What brought down WTC7

    NSA......maybe "how" the towers fell was a national security interest!!
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    What brought down WTC7

    speculation.....ummmm ok. did u read the fema bpat report appendix c. there is no speculation that something turned a36 steel from wtc 7 into "swiss cheese". http://911research.wtc7.net/wt...allurgy/WTC_apndxC.htm as for the political manipulation. maybe you forgot to read my link a...
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    What brought down WTC7

    why odd? there are other stories describing wtc 7 steel. so its not odd at all. notice the "extraordianrily high temps" he mentions. also see the fema bpat report appendix c for more info regarding "swiss cheese" steel from wtc 7. and of coarse we have the "free fall", just put one and one...
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    What brought down WTC7

    the steel that he is talking about was from wtc 7.......no plane there. but i think you are the first to bring up magnesium!! haha
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    What brought down WTC7

    what you saw was the end result of alittle "help" to those blazing fires.....extremely hot fires that is. so u can say fires brough it down if u wanna. but not just a hydrocarbon fire. Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe...
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    What brought down WTC7

    fire hot enough to "vaporize" steel? 15.9 mm to be exact....and from the context of this engineers statement, not as it was in the rubble pile but as it was attached to the column. http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10...lues-and-remedies.html "One piece Dr. Astaneh-Asl saw was a charred...
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    What brought down WTC7

    sounds good. maybe i was being too technical. im sure youve seen the figure 12-76 in the wtc 7 report. they have numbers past the decimal point 5 numbers back in their equations.
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    What brought down WTC7

    explain? i was making an observation concerning nist's math.
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    What brought down WTC7

    no? you mean no it will still be freefall and freefall is freefall is freefall. and we need to listen to sunder about what freefall implies?
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    What brought down WTC7

    this is what i was talking about earlier: Depending on latitude and other variables, there are slight differences in gravitational acceleration. There is a table at this link that shows the gravitational acceleration of various cities including new york to be 9.802 m/s2...
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    What brought down WTC7

    :beer:
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    What brought down WTC7

    nist report
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    What brought down WTC7

    kinda interesting- Comparative gravities in various cities around the world: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth's_gravity for new york- 9.802m/s2 which would equal 32.14 feet/s2 so from the nist report, it says it was at gravitational acceleration of 32.2 feet/s2 that means that...
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    What brought down WTC7

    from the nist, it doesnt say nearly free-fall.......it says "at ravitational acceleration: "In Stage 2, the north face descended at gravitational acceleration, as the buckled columns provided negligible support to the upper portion of the north face. This free fall drop continued for...
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    What brought down WTC7

    please demonstate to us how 15.9 mm of a36 steel "corrodes" in 8 days due to fires from normal office building materials.
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    What brought down WTC7

    i like the bolded. did you happen to read my link earlier: http://www.globalresearch.ca/i...p?context=va&aid=15201 NIST and Scientific Fraud With regard to the question of science: Far from being supported by good science, NIST?s report repeatedly makes its case by resorting to...
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    What brought down WTC7

    somemore intersting statements by made by Peruggia. from the fireman oral history. "Looking up at it, you could see that, you could see through the smoke or whatever, that there was significant structural damage to the exterior of the building. Very noticeable. Now you know, again, this...
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    What brought down WTC7

    with that link, i was just showing the "engineer" somehow predicted wtc 7: Deputy Chief Hayden - start at 19:35 Hayden: "Well we had our special operations people set up surveying instruments to monitor and see if there was any movement of the building. We were concerned of the possibility...
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    What brought down WTC7

    basically it boils down to who had access to the steel! Demolition access to the World Trade Center towers: Part one - Tenants http://www.911truth.org/articl...tory=20090713033854249 Demolition Access To The WTC Towers: Part Two - Security...
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    What brought down WTC7

    im not implicating agencies as a whole by any means. how could "they" bring in excelerants into wtc 7? im thinking probably when the office of emergency management was built. anyway, check out some of this ive read about recently. ive read about this "engineer" a while back but sunder...