No, they do not do the same thing. DES turned on and off the power phases of your processor voltage regulator while speedstep changed voltage, frequency, and internal components demand of the processor (indirect control of the power phases).
As far as I know you can only turn DES off with the...
Have you turned off DES (Dynamic Energy Saver) yet? If not go here -> http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Sup...oard/Utility_List.aspx to get the utility to do it.
DES is your mobo's regulator equivalent version of Intel speedstep implementation, it also created broad spectrum noise when dynamicly...
The article is about robbing Peter to pay Paul engineering. Spreading sharp intense spikes over larger areas, time frequency distribution technique.
Slightly degraded the output regulation load line at higher voltage level would be used. Trading ESR and ESL spikes with higher voltage level...
What are "the transients caused by shifting from no load to full load"? Please fill in the question marks below.
1 - Transients due to drooping regulation load line from no load to full load <-- LLC corrected.
2 - Transients due to ??? <-- ??? corrected.
3 - ???
"The only thing LLC did is removing transients called vdroops" , no vdroops = no gibbs phenomenon = no maximum negative overshoot = no Voffset = no Vringdown.
LLC removed all vdroops and vdroop derived transients, LLC doesn't cover any other transients not shown HERE.
The coverage for...
I used LLC for constant and predictable regulation load line to remove droops, I've been using it for about 25yrs. How did you do it on your non-constant and not predictable load? I'd like to learn how to do it, I'm not afraid of being ignorant of how to do it your way.
Teach me.
Yes I see what you mean, I called it the Gibbs_phenomenon, you should read the link to comprehend where "ringdown" originated from.
The only thing LLC did is removing transients called vdroops, fortunately with vdroops removed "ringdown" transients went with them.
Yes, you had banned me twice for "not posting facts". :)
LLC can't remove v-droop and v-offset?
Did you not said the below?
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no Vdroop and no Voffset = removed transients.
LLC removed transients.
I used factual garden variety power supply common sense for the how of "LLC" AKA "Load Line Calibration" to real power supplies with non-ideal but known and predictable regulation load lines for people who didn't know the how.
I'd like to learn from Idontcare how...
I supposed factual garden variety power supply common sense isn't sufficient as proof nor factual enough. OK, OK... Lets try something else below...
Ideal voltage power supplies had perfectly predictable and non-variable droop rate of zero <-- 0% regulation load line.
Other close but...
Perfect ideal DC voltage power supplies had zero input impedance, with perfect power transfer to all loading, and zero output droop rate.
Real world DC voltage supplies are not perfect, do not have zero input impedance, and will have output drooping. But an engineer who could only made them...
4% of 50% load is not the equal of 4% of 100% load.
The droop rate is linear from minimum to max load. If its not you should get yourself a real engineer to re-design the power supply.
4% regulation power supplies don't change to 2%, 6%, or 8% regulation due to loading.
It negated nothing.
If the load line calibrated droop rate determined to be 4% then it is pre-compensated for a one time fixed 4% at any loading condition.
With LLC pre-compensated zero v-droop preset voltage for 1.15V...
Min load = 1.15V
Med load = 1.15V
Max load = 1.15V
Any load at anytime = 1.15V
There's no voltage transient period, typically "load line calibrated" flat line voltage don't overshoot nor undershoot ever. :)
Loadline calibration is tuned to remove transients "like eliminating Vdroop".
Without v-droop there is no v-offset and no v-peak. The pre-compensated zero v-droop voltage is not moving up or down or moving any place to have any v-offset or v-peak. It's a plain flat line.
No one including...
No doubt there are hardware which performed LLC once every power up, but some will only do it just once and only once then never again.
Unless the preset voltage had been changed again by the user or there's a complete change in the load such as a new processor being installed and having a...
The ringings originated from voltage shifting from uncompensated loading lo to hi or hi to lo...
After LLC is done, there's no voltage shifting up or down just plain flat-lined, there is basically no transient nor ringing of any kind. If they are there at all, they would be miniscule...
Did you comprehend that what I said above also applied to 12V? Applied to any 12V PSUs or any 12V regulators? Applied to any 12V single-forward, 12V double-forward, and 12V quad-forward?
Single-rail versus multi-rail basic technique applies to many things not just 12V nor just PSUs.
1000 HP single-cylinder engines lacked the reliability and dependabiltiy of 1000 HP 10-cylinder engines. As each of the 10-cylinder only had to withstand ~1/10 the stress of the 1000HP...
PSU "experts" insulted themselves. It's very so unnecessary if they just simply had learned to recognize factual garden variety PSU common sense and to comprehend GRADE-SCHOOL level explanations when given.
I'm tired of warning you about trolling and not providing FACTS, enjoy 4 weeks off. If...
I often posted factual garden variety PSU common sense and GRADE-SCHOOL level explanations to avoid "inflammatory and argumentative", but PSU "experts" often had problems with them.
I suppose if I just ape and propagate the same ignorance and stupidity the masses used in this and other...
GRADE-SCHOOL level proof example of why single-rail sucked ass below...
Though it's absolutely normal that some "experts" can't comprehend GRADE-SCHOOL levels. :) It's recommended that these "experts" should at least go out and achieving some real HIGH-SCHOOL education.
It's a factual garden variety PSU common sense which most "experts" lacked.
Just as they often lacked Independently Regulated PSU common sense. They don't got no clue what Independently in "Independently Regulated" meant.
Don't buy it, it had an inherent built-in design weakness.
So it will not happen again or you might repeat the very same mistakes in the future. Here's a factual garden variety PSU common sense --> " Multi-rail is more reliable and more dependable than Single-rail".
3.3V and 5v shared a...
Take a look at your vid card and visually inspected it for what was/were burned. Typically for things to burn required power, look in areas of high power density concentration -> caps, GPU, VRM...
If you can't see any burn-marks then try the scenting technique, put your nose to the vid card...
@Pelu
Use this literate 12V single rail PSU label as an example --> http://c1.neweggimages.com/New...mage/17-341-010-03.jpg
Note the pre-configured power distribution across 12V power taps on the lower left corner.
Do what Zap said...
Switch mode power supplies required minimal current flow for proper function, else they shut themselves off or blow up. Typically for example from cross loading failure on monster size 12V single rail designs like this one -->...
What a supprise...
There are PSU "experts" who can't recognize "facts" of their own expertise given to them, they can't recognize "facts" of their own expertise even if "facts" poked their eyes out, they can't recognize "facts" even if "facts" took a dump on their faces.
You can repeat...
The symptoms are the same but the causes could be completely different, that's why I asked if you wanted to know my problem as I don't have the Asus.
The power stepping crosstalk noise leaked through to my on board ADC, causing false voltage spike readings which didn't exist in the actual...
I used a 16-phase power regulator which is adjustable in 3dB steps depending upon power demands very similar to Asus. Every time the steps kicked in or out they generated a huge amount of crosstalk causing false voltage spike readings.
Ha ha... :)
You don't need to supply elaborate idiotic cross-regulation tests of "independently regulated" from respected and trust worthy sources to know "independently regulated" don't cross-load. Only dumbass PSU experts required elaborate tests for proofs.
Neither would anyone who are...
The dude(dudette) had an obvious and apparent sucked ass 3.3V and 5V rail PSU causing problems, serious mobo dying problems (but not obvious enough and apparent enough to other "PSU experts", only plenty obvious and apparent to "PSU JOE AVERAGE").
Learning to recognize sucked ass 3.3V and 5V...
You, some other PSU experts, and the masses are ignorant of basic fundamental voltage regulation in Voltage Regulated Power Supply.
You don't need to look elsewhere for a difference but what already stated clearly in the label... Assuming you can read and comprehend the obvious and apparent...
There's one thing you can do to improve your chances of surviving power outages greatly.
Go into your mobo bios, set the mobo not to power backup from power outages.
Generally when power came back on during outages, the power fluctuates. The effect is the same as if you flip the power...
Most internet trained PSU experts can't read nor comprehend literate PSU labels. Not able to recognize obvious and apparent sucked ass 3.3V and 5V power rail.
http://c1.neweggimages.com/New...mage/17-139-002-28.jpg
That's too bad, the 600W OCZ GameXstream is a better PSU than the Corsair HX620 for your configuration.
If you can't change PSU, then avoid over-volting your memory and your mobo chipset completely, but over-volting your CPU is still OK.
This applies to your old mobos or the new mobo you...
Ummm.Ah... "wtf?" is a perfectly good question...
A particular UPS is always online and generated output destination power from an internal power buffer. In turn this intermediate power buffer store is replenish from multiple power sources simultaneously whatever the sources maybe.
The...
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