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There isn't a significant difference between OS's in SPEC, ime, assuming both have "normal" support for the hardware (ie, not broken...
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Intel wasn't the creator.
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Nah, explain in depth. What "optimization" can an OS do to make SPEC faster?
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x86 ecosystem won't have working solution. Apple does, every Apple cpu have gpu attached and working driver model to use it. AVX512...
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To the extent it failed at all (which it didn't, really, but it obviously isn't with us anymore) - there are reasons way beyond that...
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This is a dubious argument. SPEC cannot be made magically faster by a OS.
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I mean, I'm sure the fluid-dynamics/seismic-analysis/weather-prediction kids will really like it, but that market isn't huge and a large...
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Most client has stopped too. 2-cycle AVX-512 ala Zen 4 is enough, you got the benefit of the instructions anyway. Expanding from this...
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Most server volume is enterprise/cloud stuff that doesn't give half a crap about SIMD or even FP.
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I've heard exactly the same argument about AMD FSA/HSA years back and it never amounted to anything. It's still just GPGPU compute when...
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No, Apple's profit margins have everything to do with it Govmt using Apple only hardware wouldn't change a thing, not to mention that...
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Apple units are symmetric so you get 4x128 FMA. That's not the case with Zen5 where you get 2x256/512 FMA. That's still twice more but...
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x86 is towards wider SIMD units. ARM side has more 128 bit execution pipes and load/store ports. Apple and Cortex-x925 with its six...
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about 300 pages ago this literal thread was raving about how 1T performance was the only thing that mattered and now we're back to "muh...
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That worked a total of zero times in the history of computing.
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