Recent content by Darkskypoet

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    Phenom In perspective

    The questions about performance, and scaling come down to other issues. Is this silicon still broken? And with some of the results I've seen, it does look that way. With results being kind of screwy... Thats all, speed bumps, headroom, respins are whatever. I want to know if B2 has errata that...
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    Phenom In perspective

    Yeps. Gotcha. Cept... You can for sure oc the HT, and this should raise the L3 speed as well, In fact AMDs own OC video shows the guy bumping the HT freq up, and multiplier to hit 3ghz... (marketing, yes, but indicative of HT O/C capability). And a few reviews I saw, showed the K10 already...
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    Phenom In perspective

    The bug is in the TLB of the L3 cache... Sigh... meet Phenom, AMDs K5 of the 21st century. Sigh. :P
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    Phenom In perspective

    Mem scores are sad... Some reviewers mentioned it didn't matter whether one stick or two were in system. It performed the same... Which is why I say wait a bit to get some sensible results.... Mem scores should break 10000, not sit around 6k like some sites showed. Damn, my oc'd x2-3600 beats...
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    MY ending with AMD

    @viditor: AMD sells all the chips it makes, and does so at some level of profit. That this may not offset continuing investments in FABs, Debt carriage charges, etc is moot. They don't sell many chips for a loss... (K10s... maybe :) ) and when OEMs are factored in, that don't overclock, AMD...
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    MY ending with AMD

    Which mobo is that for $60? As well, my freezer is silent... Intel stock cooling at load with that setup.. not. And when I bought, the CDN dollar was sitting around 89 cents / USD What currency are your prices in? Additionally, I can get a way with slower ram, as my mem bandwidth will blow you...
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    Phenom In perspective

    Not another wait till the next stepping thread, however B3 will be better, as most later steppings are. I waited to get a G0 over a B3 from intel for client's Q6600's... Something wrong with that? Made it easier to hit 3.6ghz on air.... So If I get to the same on AMD B3... is that bad? or wrong...
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    Phenom In perspective

    I think Its delusional to accept that everyone thought a monolithic die was a great idea. Yes there will be debates.. but ultimately Management decides (and these are engineers too hopefully) what goes forward as a project. Regardless of where Intel is, its where AMDs MFG process is, and their...
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    Phenom In perspective

    @bfdd I agree that they really needed to price these chips lower. However, as I have heard non-amd sources mention 3.5ghz on air for B3... I don't think it'll be that dire. Additionally... 4 ghz plus with Penryn isn't exactly stock cooling either... Intel has TDP to think about too. The OC...
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    MY ending with AMD

    As in the expectant playing it very well??? Not those forming the expectations? I guess then it makes more sense. At the same point, I never expected to find that a moderate response required one to play the expectations game very well, I always assumed the majority would react in a moderate...
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    Phenom In perspective

    G1ood god man, the point being that AMD only has one thing next in the pipeline, whereas intel has the capacity to have more then one in the pipeline... And you specifically mentioned the C2D as if it had magical properties, that a further die shrink, or speed ramp of Core / P4 would not have...
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    MY ending with AMD

    Actually it is.... (see above) Only those in a fervor would feel only one of those two things... Only fanatics would fall into that limited dichotomy, unless I am missing your point. Always possible.
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    MY ending with AMD

    Rather those that work themselves up into a fervor over something experience either of those things. I believe the jury is still out on Phenom, as do many that know the whole story... That being said, IF AMD makes phenom OCable on the cheapest $60 mobo as it is on the more expensive mobos, then...
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    Phenom In perspective

    But you have, you insist on saying C2D prompted Phenom.. Whereas it did not, You forget AMD must develop chips for all sectors off of one main core... Regardless of C2D, Sun still produces Sparcs (etc), IBM still produces Power chips, etc, etc. Thus Regardless of C2D AMD is forced to move...
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    MY ending with AMD

    Thank You Munky... :) Reason and sense prevails... Primates 1 - Humankind 0 ;)