I'm transfixed by the COnspiracy Blue case, the Athlon XP 1.8, and the GeForce3 DDR. The price, around $1,900, does lift the spell somewhat. I had this grand plan to finally build my Dream Machine, a piece at a time. It's just not going to happen, so I'm probably going to finance a rig from Alienware. I'm using my P2 400 Micron, circa October 98 right now, and it's time for it to be retired. I know all the reviews of Alienware machines say "Awesome, if you have the cash." Anyone out there using one? I'm curious to see what you guys/girls think of them.
Help I'm caught in Alienware's spell
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They're pretty, I'd buy one if I had to finance. I almost did, but "found" a grand and built my own, thank god. Not as fast as their top of the line, but still quite quick.
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I would not recommend purchasing a system from Alienware. Instead, if you want to buy a pre-built system, I would recommend looking at Oxford PC, GamePC, or Monarch Computer. All three of them give you more options than Alienware.
<< so I'm probably going to finance a rig from Alienware >>
I have afriend who did the same thing as you are thinking about...(just from a different company)
He is still paying on that machine 2 years after buying it...It's the principal an the machine that's taking so long to pay off..
Make sure that the interest rate isn't very high or you'll be paying that too and it will seem forever.
financing=quick and easy to get now..
build your own=affordable and satisfying
Yeah it's that "quick & easy to get now thing" that's got me hooked. I could save up $1,000 and just get a nice little box, but that would take a few months. I have new machine fever BAD. Anyone ever check out United Micro ? I went there and put together a nice gaming rig for under $1,000, and it seemed to be very cool stuff, lots of options. Perhaps I'll save my beans and get my next machine that way.
holy crap! oxford pc has WAY more options than any of the top-end vendors (alienware, voodoo, falcon nw)!
If you're this impulsive about buying a new gaming rig I would not finance it. You'll definitely regret the payments a year or so from now. I mean a car is one thing but financing a computer is silly IMO.
It's kinda depressing finding yourself paying for something that has gotten way obsolete 1-2 years down the line. Considering how fast the computer industry moves... i would be so pissed off at my machine that i'd wanna kick it...even if i had a fever.
Yeah I'm not going to finance. I needed to see myself being called silly before I woke up though. I'll save around $1,000, and just make some careful purchases and stretch that money as far as it will go. I hit that Oxford PC link, and the machine I made came in around $2,300. Lol I can't help myself, I have champagne taste on a beer budget.
Hi!
Just some friendly advice, but I would *NOT* go with Alienware. Their support is AWFUL! I'm pasting my experience with them that I posted a little while ago on Tom's Hardware. If you go there and search, you'll find much more about the company from other users. Search Google Groups as well, and check out www.resellerratings.com to see their satisfaction rating. There's even a site www.alienwaresucks.com, and from experiencing them firsthand I can relate. Though I'm lucky because my problems were all pre-purchase, as opposed to post-purchase as several other people. Anyhow, here goes:
Hey guys!
I just wanted to share my experience with Alienware, mostly so you don't make the same mistake I did.
First let me start out by saying I am not a troll or someone advocating one type of system or another. I'm a consumer who decided it was time to upgrade my computer, and my first choice was Alienware. I had seen their systems reviewed, and frankly they were the only high quality custom manufacturer I considered because I had the perception they were the best in the business (in every way, from hardware quality to service). This was probably due to their ads and reviews I had seen.
The first thing I did was visit Alienware's website and take a look. Pretty well done, and nice looking systems. I dabbled a bit in system configuration, and came up with a few questions about some of the components. I then found their e-mail address for sales and e-mailed them, asking those questions. There was no response. I can't say whether I waited one day or two, but after a while I just decided to call and ask them directly. The fact that they ignored my e-mail sent up a few red flags, but minor ones. I should have ended it then and there and realized they didn't want my business.
Anyway, I called, and after a fairly brief hold time, got a representative. The person I talked to seemed to know what they were talking about, and I soon after ordered a system from them over the Internet. I also called, confirming it, and going over my system configuration. Things seemed fine, though I was a bit bummed out that there was a 3 week wait time for the system.
I will give Alienware some credit here. I *did* make several changes at different times to the system (changed the soundcard, then the OS, dropped the monitor, and added RAM). Each time I did this, they said it would take longer - in some cases an extra week for the system. I thought this was a bit unreasonable, but at the same time, since I wanted the changes, I decided with their number of orders, that's just the way things were.
However, what I was *NOT* happy with is, with two of these changes, I called back later, to check status, and they were not even in the system. Period. They were completely lost. This set the system back even more, though I did learn after the first time (which was the same day luckily) to check back quickly to make sure changes went through.
Also, regarding one thing I was still working out, I was transferred to my sales agent's voice mail. I was told to leave him a message, and he would call me back promptly. I left all the appropriate information, and got no response whatsoever. I eventually called back and straightened that out too.
If this wasn't bad enough, I also found out that what sounded like knowledgeable information actually wasn't. Several of the things they told me were *NOT* true. For example, they told me that having an IDE controller card would boost my performance a great deal, even if I only had one hard drive. This turned out not to bt the case, and only is helpful if there are two or more. I also asked whether the motherboard (based on Intel i850 technology) was upgradeable to Northwood later. They correctly told me that it was *NOT*. HOWEVER, they told me that there were no motherboards on the market that currently supported Northwood. It *is* possible that they meant the processor wasn't out yet, but I don't think so - it sure sounded to me like they meant the motherboard, and that's what I asked directly about. At any rate, it really made me angry when I found out this was untrue. Why would I want to buy a motherboard that wasn't upgradeable when I could have one that was? Perhaps this is why they didn't want to tell me about it.
To their credit, I will say they told me I didn't need a few components I was thinking about, but still, I was being told different technical things and opinions by different people (such as that IDE controller - ONE of the techs told me honestly it wouldn't improve performance, while the rest of them [who I had talked to first] told me it would help).
After all of this hassle, I decided to check up to see Alienware's track record. Upon checking the newsgroups and forums here, I was horrified. I found virtually no really good service reports on Alienware. In fact, most were horrifying and detailed the months it took to get replacement parts. Search for Alienware in Google Groups or here and you'll see what I mean.
At any rate, I cancelled my system from them (which they tried to talk me out of...a lot...and actually had a somewhat irritated tone). I feel slightly bad that I did it while the system was in production, but after finding out it wasn't really upgradeable in the future, a change I wanted to make (with a part that other places had already but they didn't) would cost me at least an additional week, the service would be awful post-purchase, and just plain and simple they weren't responsible or organized, I gave up on them. They made me feel more like a problem than an opportunity to please a customer.
I just ordered a system from www.gamepc.com and so far I am *very* pleased. They offer a huge selection of parts and different motherboards - more than Alienware - so I was a bit confused, but I decided to test something. I e-mailed them, recounting that I wasn't happy with a competitor and asking them several detailed questions I wanted to know to choose components. Within 24 hours (I e-mailed them at night, and they got back to me early afternoon the next day), I had a detail response, and I sent 4 follow up e-mails of questions, getting a response for each one (within minutes) with plenty of detail and all my questions answered *accurately* (I checked) and truthfully.
They are more expensive than building your own from scratch, but not too bad, and they offer a lot of options (including to put together your own, though I'm not quite ready for that yet, and there are more guarantees if they do it). If you get the parts only, they ship 24-48 hours after purchase, and with a full system including burn-in, it's only 7-10 days (compared to Alienware, that's incredible)! At any rate, from research on newsgroups, their after-service support is as good as their before-service support, and the few inconsistencies in good service (the one I can think of reading about involved one manager and a walk-in when they're really an internet retailer) are few and far between (and I imagine remedied as well).
All in all, at least so far (without seeing the machine yet, though I hear they're awesome) I would definitely recommend them, but I'm sure VoodooPC and Falcon-NW (as well as maybe Hypersonic - dunno much about that one) are very good choices. I've heard great things about them all, but for my needs, I thought GamePC fit them best. Regardless, if you are getting a specialty shop PC, I would definitely stay away from Alienware!
Sincerely,
guptasa1
P.S. I will say they did finally credit me for the cancelled system, but it took a full week.
Just some friendly advice, but I would *NOT* go with Alienware. Their support is AWFUL! I'm pasting my experience with them that I posted a little while ago on Tom's Hardware. If you go there and search, you'll find much more about the company from other users. Search Google Groups as well, and check out www.resellerratings.com to see their satisfaction rating. There's even a site www.alienwaresucks.com, and from experiencing them firsthand I can relate. Though I'm lucky because my problems were all pre-purchase, as opposed to post-purchase as several other people. Anyhow, here goes:
Hey guys!
I just wanted to share my experience with Alienware, mostly so you don't make the same mistake I did.
First let me start out by saying I am not a troll or someone advocating one type of system or another. I'm a consumer who decided it was time to upgrade my computer, and my first choice was Alienware. I had seen their systems reviewed, and frankly they were the only high quality custom manufacturer I considered because I had the perception they were the best in the business (in every way, from hardware quality to service). This was probably due to their ads and reviews I had seen.
The first thing I did was visit Alienware's website and take a look. Pretty well done, and nice looking systems. I dabbled a bit in system configuration, and came up with a few questions about some of the components. I then found their e-mail address for sales and e-mailed them, asking those questions. There was no response. I can't say whether I waited one day or two, but after a while I just decided to call and ask them directly. The fact that they ignored my e-mail sent up a few red flags, but minor ones. I should have ended it then and there and realized they didn't want my business.
Anyway, I called, and after a fairly brief hold time, got a representative. The person I talked to seemed to know what they were talking about, and I soon after ordered a system from them over the Internet. I also called, confirming it, and going over my system configuration. Things seemed fine, though I was a bit bummed out that there was a 3 week wait time for the system.
I will give Alienware some credit here. I *did* make several changes at different times to the system (changed the soundcard, then the OS, dropped the monitor, and added RAM). Each time I did this, they said it would take longer - in some cases an extra week for the system. I thought this was a bit unreasonable, but at the same time, since I wanted the changes, I decided with their number of orders, that's just the way things were.
However, what I was *NOT* happy with is, with two of these changes, I called back later, to check status, and they were not even in the system. Period. They were completely lost. This set the system back even more, though I did learn after the first time (which was the same day luckily) to check back quickly to make sure changes went through.
Also, regarding one thing I was still working out, I was transferred to my sales agent's voice mail. I was told to leave him a message, and he would call me back promptly. I left all the appropriate information, and got no response whatsoever. I eventually called back and straightened that out too.
If this wasn't bad enough, I also found out that what sounded like knowledgeable information actually wasn't. Several of the things they told me were *NOT* true. For example, they told me that having an IDE controller card would boost my performance a great deal, even if I only had one hard drive. This turned out not to bt the case, and only is helpful if there are two or more. I also asked whether the motherboard (based on Intel i850 technology) was upgradeable to Northwood later. They correctly told me that it was *NOT*. HOWEVER, they told me that there were no motherboards on the market that currently supported Northwood. It *is* possible that they meant the processor wasn't out yet, but I don't think so - it sure sounded to me like they meant the motherboard, and that's what I asked directly about. At any rate, it really made me angry when I found out this was untrue. Why would I want to buy a motherboard that wasn't upgradeable when I could have one that was? Perhaps this is why they didn't want to tell me about it.
To their credit, I will say they told me I didn't need a few components I was thinking about, but still, I was being told different technical things and opinions by different people (such as that IDE controller - ONE of the techs told me honestly it wouldn't improve performance, while the rest of them [who I had talked to first] told me it would help).
After all of this hassle, I decided to check up to see Alienware's track record. Upon checking the newsgroups and forums here, I was horrified. I found virtually no really good service reports on Alienware. In fact, most were horrifying and detailed the months it took to get replacement parts. Search for Alienware in Google Groups or here and you'll see what I mean.
At any rate, I cancelled my system from them (which they tried to talk me out of...a lot...and actually had a somewhat irritated tone). I feel slightly bad that I did it while the system was in production, but after finding out it wasn't really upgradeable in the future, a change I wanted to make (with a part that other places had already but they didn't) would cost me at least an additional week, the service would be awful post-purchase, and just plain and simple they weren't responsible or organized, I gave up on them. They made me feel more like a problem than an opportunity to please a customer.
I just ordered a system from www.gamepc.com and so far I am *very* pleased. They offer a huge selection of parts and different motherboards - more than Alienware - so I was a bit confused, but I decided to test something. I e-mailed them, recounting that I wasn't happy with a competitor and asking them several detailed questions I wanted to know to choose components. Within 24 hours (I e-mailed them at night, and they got back to me early afternoon the next day), I had a detail response, and I sent 4 follow up e-mails of questions, getting a response for each one (within minutes) with plenty of detail and all my questions answered *accurately* (I checked) and truthfully.
They are more expensive than building your own from scratch, but not too bad, and they offer a lot of options (including to put together your own, though I'm not quite ready for that yet, and there are more guarantees if they do it). If you get the parts only, they ship 24-48 hours after purchase, and with a full system including burn-in, it's only 7-10 days (compared to Alienware, that's incredible)! At any rate, from research on newsgroups, their after-service support is as good as their before-service support, and the few inconsistencies in good service (the one I can think of reading about involved one manager and a walk-in when they're really an internet retailer) are few and far between (and I imagine remedied as well).
All in all, at least so far (without seeing the machine yet, though I hear they're awesome) I would definitely recommend them, but I'm sure VoodooPC and Falcon-NW (as well as maybe Hypersonic - dunno much about that one) are very good choices. I've heard great things about them all, but for my needs, I thought GamePC fit them best. Regardless, if you are getting a specialty shop PC, I would definitely stay away from Alienware!
Sincerely,
guptasa1
P.S. I will say they did finally credit me for the cancelled system, but it took a full week.
I thought about financing a new computer but in the end decided against it. WHy? Because I upgrade to
much, at least once a year. I can't stand the thought of having the exact same machine for 3 or more years.
Gives me the chilly willys!
much, at least once a year. I can't stand the thought of having the exact same machine for 3 or more years.
Gives me the chilly willys!
I'd jump over to resellerratings.com before I purchased an alienware computer. It's not all bad but apparently they have a few issues.
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