Call of Duty Ghosts will have PhysX and TXAA

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Carfax83

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Another big title score for NVidia and hardware PhysX! ^_^

This one caught me completely by surprise. I thought the only PhysX games coming out at the tail end of this year were Bureau XCOM DeClassified and Batman Arkham Origins.

I guess Activision must be feeling the heat from Battlefield 4 and the graphical brilliance of the Frostbite 3 engine that they felt they had to do something more to compete in the intensifying tech war with DICE.

NVidia engineers will help them to implement advanced HDR lighting, sub-D tessellation, displacement mapping and probably some other effects. The game will also have dedicated servers for all those that like multiplayer.

I haven't played a Call of Duty game since Modern Warfare, so I may give this one a go.. In fact, I just upgraded my PhysX card to a EVGA GTX 650 Ti SSC, so the more PhysX games the merrier. :D

Also, it will be interesting to hear those PhysX naysayers spin this one about how PhysX will soon be dead :whiste:
 

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"NVidia engineers will help them to implement advanced HDR lighting, sub-D tessellation, displacement mapping and probably some other effects. The game will also have dedicated servers for all those that like multiplayer."

that means the game is much better on the PC than on the PS4/XB1?



anyway, physx and COD... whatever.
 

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Recently chewed my way thru the campaign of black ops 2,very much enjoyed it till i realized if i disable shadows and Ambient Occlusion that i could gain nearly 40fp average then the game looks virtually like any other COD game still.:awe:

My gtx650 if i killed shadows and AO made it playable at 1200p but just barely,i found myself going down to 1680x1050 and asking what in the hell has changed from the first black ops as hell with that i could even enable a little AA and still stay above 60fps at 1200p while i still saw dips into the mid 50s all the way down to 1440x900 in black ops 2....

Someone said in this forum and i forgot who that just cause a game demands a ton of resources doesn't mean its a impressive looking game,Black Ops 2 wow what a mess and Ghosts?WTH is that?
 

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"NVidia engineers will help them to implement advanced HDR lighting, sub-D tessellation, displacement mapping and probably some other effects. The game will also have dedicated servers for all those that like multiplayer."

that means the game is much better on the PC than on the PS4/XB1?
I'm having a very hard time figuring out how they're releasing a game for PS4/XB1 and not using displacement mapping. Displacement mapping is one of the primary methods of enacting tessellation.
 

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NVidia engineers will help them to implement advanced HDR lighting, sub-D tessellation, displacement mapping and probably some other effects. The game will also have dedicated servers for all those that like multiplayer.

Putting lipstick on a pig. Just look at the latest Splinter Cell game. You can throw all the bells and whistles you want but you can't hide an outdated game engine, primitive character animations and make up for lack of world details. HDR lighting doesn't mean anything in 2013.

It only takes me 10 seconds to conclude that COD Ghosts will look like garbage based on the way the foilage + dog look and how the dog moves in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2uN1gwxM8o

COD Ghosts looks far inferior to BF4 graphically and BF4 itself isn't exactly going to WOW us like Far Cry 1 or Crysis 1 did either. Next gen gaming is still ways off and games like Splinter Cell and COD: Ghosts are still made with old generation consoles in mind. Their graphics show it and you can't hide it with PhysX or otherwise.

As far as TXAA goes, it has so far failed to impress in Secret World, Crysis 3 and Splinter Cell Blacklist. I do not see how TXAA is a selling point at all until NV makes serious strides to prevent texture blurring.
 
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Russian, you can hide anything with enough gratuitous usage of PhysX effects. Didn't you know??

TXAA is not to be judged in screenshots, it only looks good in motion.. or something like that.. move along nothing to see here, another lame console port COD pretending to care about PC gamers.
 

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Not that I am a fan of the Call of Duty franchise, but for those that have predicted physx would fade away, looks like they are wrong. Physx seems to be picking up steam.

In the past year there as been Metro Last Light, X-Com Bureau, Hawken, Borderlands 2, Planetside, Warframe, and Rise of the Triad (I may have missed one or two games) and now the upcoming very soon there is the new Batman game, Witcher 3, Call of Duty, and probably some of Ubisoft's games.

Of course, quality is subjective (out of all the current releases, only Metro Last Light and Rise of the Triad are the only ones I want or have played), but the fact can't be ignored that physx is actually starting to GAIN traction and is NOT fading away like people here have tried to reiterated again and again.
 

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I think at this point IW is just trying to see how much more money they can get out of people selling the same product with a new name on it.
 

SirPauly

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Putting lipstick on a pig.

A pig? Call of Duty is a very successful series or franchise of titles.

It only takes me 10 seconds to conclude that COD Ghosts will look like garbage based on the way the foilage + dog look and how the dog moves in this videop

Garbage? In ten seconds? No need to actually investigate the title?

COD Ghosts looks far inferior to BF4 graphically and BF4 itself isn't exactly going to WOW us like Far Cry 1 or Crysis 1 did either. Next gen gaming is still ways off and games like Splinter Cell and COD: Ghosts are still made with old generation consoles in mind. Their graphics show it and you can't hide it with PhysX or otherwise.

It may not match Frostbite but the Call of Duty title may be fun and look good over-all! I think Activision may have a clue!

As far as TXAA goes, it has so far failed to impress in Secret World, Crysis 3 and Splinter Cell Blacklist. I do not see how TXAA is a selling point at all until NV makes serious strides to prevent texture blurring.

TXAA may not be for everyone but TXAA helps, efficiently, with temporal aliasing. For the life of me, why don't you try it first hand and try a third party tool since you judge IQ by sharpness.

TXAA's default context is to help curb temporal aliasing efficiently and offer a cinematic feel to PC games. Considering enthusiasts enjoy to tweak their IQ for their subjective taste and tolerance -- to find that right balance -- why don't you try at least instead of your blanket views based on what seems like static images and a few youtube videos!

I sure hope it didn't take ya ten seconds to judge TXAA like you did with this title.
 

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yikes there is a lot missing on the console versions of those games in terms of modern rendering techniques. Adding them in post asset creation isn't going to make all that much difference. But hey its another COD DLC, its going to look the same as the previous generation as they have since MW4 was released. I don't know when it is they will be updating their game and engine but its certainly not Ghosts.

Its not like I particularly like BF3 either, its over bloomed and shadowed. The lighting is really over done and ends up really unrealistic. It looks impressive but its not really very practical and you are better off turning of AO and bloom if you want to compete online and relying more on the diffuse lighting, which ironically is more natural looking.

PhysX is unlikely to win out in the end because it doesn't run on the AMD hardware. The consoles will rely on other options and that will translate in hardware physics acceleration appearing in a lot of games as a required thing, and it wont be PhysX they use.
 

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A pig? Call of Duty is a very successful series or franchise of titles. Garbage? In ten seconds? No need to actually investigate the title? It may not match Frostbite but the Call of Duty title may be fun and look good over-all! I think Activision may have a clue!

Talking about graphics & graphical features only. Please read my post again. I said nothing about gameplay or if COD is a successful franchise or not.

On the TXAA, it has looked blurry in every video I've seen. You are telling me that videos on youtube, comparisons on NV's site, screenshots of TXAA and reviews/analysis at HardOCP -- that concluded it that it ruins graphics/IQ in every game where it is used -- are all inconclusive evidence that TXAA sucks?
 
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Is this for Call of Duty's cutting-edge next-gen must have feature; Fish AI ? :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRriF6Pu1kk&feature=c4-overview&list=UUaupSIOToYMVsMygUA8lvwQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJIIgdSW6O4

BF4 is going to dump all over this game. I think IW is resorting to bringing nvidia in to try stay relevant tech-wise against the Battlefield 4 juggernaut.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_xaIv7Wo1A

It's a little sad.

Lol ever since COD:MW, all the COD games have been good for some laughs in youtube videos. :D
 

chimaxi83

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Why is "cinematic feel" in reference to TXAA used to describe the smeared vaseline/blurriness that it actually is? Yes, yes, you can use third party tools, but according to many people here (Nvidia users, unsurprisingly), you shouldn't have to.

As for PhysX, cool, I like it when it's well done. Most of it isn't.

Anyway, hopefully the destruction BF4 will put on this CoD crap will bring about some beneficial changes in the wildly popular title that CoD is, even if it's mostly with 13 year old Xbox Live gamers.
 

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Is this for Call of Duty's cutting-edge next-gen must have feature; Fish AI ? :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRriF6Pu1kk&feature=c4-overview&list=UUaupSIOToYMVsMygUA8lvwQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJIIgdSW6O4

BF4 is going to dump all over this game. I think IW is resorting to bringing nvidia in to try stay relevant tech-wise against the Battlefield 4 juggernaut.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_xaIv7Wo1A

It's a little sad.

What? :D Compare BF4 water with real tech-wise juggernauts like Witcher 3, Total War: Rome II, Assassin's Creed IV.
 

jacktesterson

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Physx is there answer to more evolved graphics?

How much did Nvidia pay them for this more likely.
 

SirPauly

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Talking about graphics & graphical features only. Please read my post again. I said nothing about gameplay or if COD is a successful franchise or not.

Clearly offered pig and garbage -- and offered in just 10 seconds -- speaks for itself.

On the TXAA, it has looked blurry in every video I've seen. You are telling me that videos on youtube, comparisons on NV's site, screenshots of TXAA and reviews/analysis at HardOCP -- that concluded it that it ruins graphics/IQ in every game where it is used -- are all inconclusive evidence that TXAA sucks?

TXAA may not be for everyone! You like sharp -- some do -- and default TXAA softening may indeed be too much of a trade-off or even a distraction to some or even many! So let's stop there and blanket the feature and ignore movement or temporal aliasing -- what third party tools do that may enhance with adding a modest sharpening. You can have sharp!

Good lord -- everything from you is usually third party tools for over-clocking and tweaking and yet IQ tweaking using third party tools seem foreign to you and continue to offer blanket views on something you haven't had the common courtesy to investigate first hand default or with third party tools.

It's like 10 seconds -- you make up your mind!
 

SirPauly

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Sadly AMD and NVidia seem to be competing on "who can bribe the most developers"...

Imho,

Without their help and talents there would be less PC goodies, imho! Glad that both nVidia and AMD spend resources and talents to improve their customers gaming experiences.

Nothing is worse than having no content to take advantage of their respective visions and architectural strengths.
 

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People need to stop mistaking the posts in this thread as anti nvidia and just realize that people are calling out cod for what it is. Garbage. Even infinity ward knows call of duty is dead hence naming their game "Ghosts."

It's coming back to haunt us with another iteration.
 

skipsneeky2

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People need to stop mistaking the posts in this thread as anti nvidia and just realize that people are calling out cod for what it is. Garbage. Even infinity ward knows call of duty is dead hence naming their game "Ghosts."

It's coming back to haunt us with another iteration.

Damn.:awe:
 
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