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Old 02-25-2003, 12:00 PM   #1
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Default Difference between Schezwan and Hunan style of dishes?

at a chinese restaurant, i ordered a Schezwan beef dish and my coworker ordered Hunan beef.

They both look, and tasted the same. whats suppose to be the difference?
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Old 02-25-2003, 12:00 PM   #2
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Old 02-25-2003, 12:02 PM   #3
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The Hunan style requires additional seasoning on the puppy you're eating.
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Old 02-25-2003, 12:03 PM   #4
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One supposedly has hunan sauce, the other has szechuan(sp?) sauce.
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Old 02-25-2003, 12:08 PM   #5
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Default Difference between Schezwan and Hunan style of dishes?

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The Hunan style requires additional seasoning on the puppy you're eating.
There may actually be something to this. For example, a while back I picked up from Safeway's chinese food take out department some mongolian beef, and it tasted weird because they used actual beef. I'm not sure what kind of meat most chinese food establishments use, but it's not beef...

Damn it, now I'm craving chinese food... Grr
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Old 02-25-2003, 12:12 PM   #6
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The Hunan style requires additional seasoning on the puppy you're eating.
There may actually be something to this. For example, a while back I picked up from Safeway's chinese food take out department some mongolian beef, and it tasted weird because they used actual beef. I'm not sure what kind of meat most chinese food establishments use, but it's not beef...

Damn it, now I'm craving chinese food... Grr
I was convinced that the "Beef" that chinese restaurants use is tripe, but I've had tripe and it's not quite the same. I think it's just flank steak that's been uber-tenderized.

The differences between styles - i.e. Szechuan, Hunan, Mandarin, Canton, etc. is the spices and ingredients used. Most of them vary in how spicy the dishes are in accordance to the geographic location of each province....i.e., the northernmost (colder) provinces tend to have hotter food, etc.
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Old 02-25-2003, 12:16 PM   #7
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Default Difference between Schezwan and Hunan style of dishes?

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The Hunan style requires additional seasoning on the puppy you're eating.
There may actually be something to this. For example, a while back I picked up from Safeway's chinese food take out department some mongolian beef, and it tasted weird because they used actual beef. I'm not sure what kind of meat most chinese food establishments use, but it's not beef...

Damn it, now I'm craving chinese food... Grr
The way beef is done in chinese place makes it tender and soft like roast beef. Flank steak I think... it's also one of the expensive cuts of the cow.

for dog meat, you have to go to Korea, they have more places that serves that... even in cans.

back to the orginal question. since you got it , i assume in some resturant in the US, there's not much difference. but the real difference is that "Schezwan" uses dried red peppers in most of their dishes, and most of their dishes are hot and spicy. Hunan uses other type of spices in addition but they also have mild dishes.

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Old 02-25-2003, 12:30 PM   #8
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The Hunan style requires additional seasoning on the puppy you're eating.
There may actually be something to this. For example, a while back I picked up from Safeway's chinese food take out department some mongolian beef, and it tasted weird because they used actual beef. I'm not sure what kind of meat most chinese food establishments use, but it's not beef...

Damn it, now I'm craving chinese food... Grr
I was convinced that the "Beef" that chinese restaurants use is tripe, but I've had tripe and it's not quite the same. I think it's just flank steak that's been uber-tenderized.

The differences between styles - i.e. Szechuan, Hunan, Mandarin, Canton, etc. is the spices and ingredients used. Most of them vary in how spicy the dishes are in accordance to the geographic location of each province....i.e., the northernmost (colder) provinces tend to have hotter food, etc.

If you're confusing tripe with any other "Beef", then you may not have had tripe before. Tripe is a different color (usually white-ish/off-white/pearl). It is chewy, and stretchy. And it usually has a honeycomb pattern on one side. And tastes nothing like "Beef".
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Old 02-25-2003, 12:52 PM   #9
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The Hunan style requires additional seasoning on the puppy you're eating.
There may actually be something to this. For example, a while back I picked up from Safeway's chinese food take out department some mongolian beef, and it tasted weird because they used actual beef. I'm not sure what kind of meat most chinese food establishments use, but it's not beef...

Damn it, now I'm craving chinese food... Grr
I was convinced that the "Beef" that chinese restaurants use is tripe, but I've had tripe and it's not quite the same. I think it's just flank steak that's been uber-tenderized.

The differences between styles - i.e. Szechuan, Hunan, Mandarin, Canton, etc. is the spices and ingredients used. Most of them vary in how spicy the dishes are in accordance to the geographic location of each province....i.e., the northernmost (colder) provinces tend to have hotter food, etc.

If you're confusing tripe with any other "Beef", then you may not have had tripe before. Tripe is a different color (usually white-ish/off-white/pearl). It is chewy, and stretchy. And it usually has a honeycomb pattern on one side. And tastes nothing like "Beef".

Yeah, it's like a thin sheet of squid or jellyfish.
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Old 02-25-2003, 01:16 PM   #10
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They taste the same because it's easier for the cook to cook an order of each together.
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Old 02-25-2003, 01:45 PM   #11
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Most chinese food place are run like fast food. Sauces are pre-mixed, meats are pre-cooked, but vegetables are fresh. Schezuan sauce is hotter/spicier than hunan (comparing hunan chicken to schezuan tofu for example).

About tripe, I agree with the earlier post. There's no way you can confuse beef with tripe, unless you never have had tripe before.
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I think it's just flank steak that's been uber-tenderized.
I'm really curious how they tenderized their beef. Anyone know? It is so tender and oh so tasty.
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If you're confusing tripe with any other "Beef", then you may not have had tripe before. Tripe is a different color (usually white-ish/off-white/pearl). It is chewy, and stretchy. And it usually has a honeycomb pattern on one side. And tastes nothing like "Beef".
I know, that's why if you read my post you'll see that I once *thought* that it was tripe until I actually had tripe. Now, having had tripe, I know that's not what they use.

Most recipies call for flank steak so I think that's what they use. It's not terribly expensive.
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The Hunan style requires additional seasoning on the puppy you're eating.
There may actually be something to this. For example, a while back I picked up from Safeway's chinese food take out department some mongolian beef, and it tasted weird because they used actual beef. I'm not sure what kind of meat most chinese food establishments use, but it's not beef...

Damn it, now I'm craving chinese food... Grr
I was convinced that the "Beef" that chinese restaurants use is tripe, but I've had tripe and it's not quite the same. I think it's just flank steak that's been uber-tenderized.

The differences between styles - i.e. Szechuan, Hunan, Mandarin, Canton, etc. is the spices and ingredients used. Most of them vary in how spicy the dishes are in accordance to the geographic location of each province....i.e., the northernmost (colder) provinces tend to have hotter food, etc.
You gotten be joking. Northen china has spicy food? No, like the rest of the world, usually hotter climates have the spicest food. I wont get into the history of why, but thats factual most everywhere.
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Old 02-25-2003, 05:54 PM   #16
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i read something where it has to do with the chemicals in the pepper/spicy thing killing the bacteria in the food.


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Old 02-25-2003, 06:02 PM   #17
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Most Chinese restaurants use very intense heat and cook the meat for fairly short amounts of time. Thats why the meat is so tender. Its easy to tell if you order some stir fry that has fairly large cuts of beef in it. It you bite into it the inside is still kinda raw looking. You'll never be able to do this kind of cooking at home unless you have a expensive professional range.
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Oh man, the meat isn't tender from heat. They soak it in calcium hydroxide or something to tenderize it and give it that gummy texture.
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I honestly haven't heard of many Chinese restaurants that marinade their meat. The most basic stir fry sauce is soy sauce, rice wine, corn starch, a bit of sugar, maybe a bit of oyster sauce. The starch acts as a tenderizer, but I never heard of them acutally marinating the meat for long amounts of time, mostly just right before cooking.
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If you're confusing tripe with any other "Beef", then you may not have had tripe before. Tripe is a different color (usually white-ish/off-white/pearl). It is chewy, and stretchy. And it usually has a honeycomb pattern on one side. And tastes nothing like "Beef".
I know, that's why if you read my post you'll see that I once *thought* that it was tripe until I actually had tripe. Now, having had tripe, I know that's not what they use.

Most recipies call for flank steak so I think that's what they use. It's not terribly expensive.
5 bucks a pound aint expensive?

The reason why it's so tender is a.) because it's usually flank and b.) because some places throw on a bunch of meat tenderizer previous to cooking. Usually places that use cheap meat use the tenderizer, as flank is pretty good already.
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Oh darn now im getting hungry. schezwan beef is my all time fav to eat. though hunam is good..sigh


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The Hunan style requires additional seasoning on the puppy you're eating.
There may actually be something to this. For example, a while back I picked up from Safeway's chinese food take out department some mongolian beef, and it tasted weird because they used actual beef. I'm not sure what kind of meat most chinese food establishments use, but it's not beef...

Damn it, now I'm craving chinese food... Grr
I was convinced that the "Beef" that chinese restaurants use is tripe, but I've had tripe and it's not quite the same. I think it's just flank steak that's been uber-tenderized.

The differences between styles - i.e. Szechuan, Hunan, Mandarin, Canton, etc. is the spices and ingredients used. Most of them vary in how spicy the dishes are in accordance to the geographic location of each province....i.e., the northernmost (colder) provinces tend to have hotter food, etc.
You gotten be joking. Northen china has spicy food? No, like the rest of the world, usually hotter climates have the spicest food. I wont get into the history of why, but thats factual most everywhere.
Szechuan food comes from the Szechuan region of China, dude.
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The Hunan style requires additional seasoning on the puppy you're eating.
There may actually be something to this. For example, a while back I picked up from Safeway's chinese food take out department some mongolian beef, and it tasted weird because they used actual beef. I'm not sure what kind of meat most chinese food establishments use, but it's not beef...

Damn it, now I'm craving chinese food... Grr
I was convinced that the "Beef" that chinese restaurants use is tripe, but I've had tripe and it's not quite the same. I think it's just flank steak that's been uber-tenderized.


The differences between styles - i.e. Szechuan, Hunan, Mandarin, Canton, etc. is the spices and ingredients used. Most of them vary in how spicy the dishes are in accordance to the geographic location of each province....i.e., the northernmost (colder) provinces tend to have hotter food, etc.
You gotten be joking. Northen china has spicy food? No, like the rest of the world, usually hotter climates have the spicest food. I wont get into the history of why, but thats factual most everywhere.
Szechuan food comes from the Szechuan region of China, dude.
Exactly, Hunan is also in the northwest region. by comparison, Shanghi and Canton is not as spicy... and they're in the southeast region. Peking style, up north... is not spicy.

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