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12-27-2001, 01:58 PM
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Golden Member
Join Date: Oct 1999
Posts: 1,154
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Sound Blaster Live! Jumper problem
My friend's sister received a cd burner for christmas, to go in her Dell P3 800. He thought he could connect the IDE cable to the sound blaster live! value for some odd reason, and he sees all the jumpers on the end of the SB Live and thinks it must be an IDE connector. So he removes 2 jumpers that were covered (side note: my sb live value does not have any jumpers covered, which I thought was odd. Dell must have needed some covered.)
Once these jumpers are removed, WinME will not boot succesfully into normal mode. This is when I get the call. So I go over to his house and determine the SB Live is the problem, and disable it in the device manager. CDRW is in there fine now, but my friend doesn't remember which jumpers were shunted originally. I had a hard time searching the net for anything about the SB live jumpers, I think the sets of jumpers were labeled J13-1 and J13-2.
He swears the jumpers were adjacent, so I think I can fix it by trial and error moving of the jumpers, but just thought I'd post this message to see if anyone knows why Dell would have those jumpers shunted on the sb live, and what those jumpers do and why it would cause WinME to crash. TYIA
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12-27-2001, 04:51 PM
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Diamond Member
Join Date: Dec 2000
Posts: 6,759
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A long time ago, the Sound Blaster's did have an IDE port at the very end of the card. No so anymore, so I can see his confusion if he's a newbie.
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12-27-2001, 05:00 PM
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Lifer
Join Date: Feb 2001
Posts: 14,115
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whoa, are you saying that he did connect it? or that he realized it wasnt IDE and put it on the mainboard?
*pulls out his sb live value from under the desk*
yup just a daughtercard connector on mine. ill assume that he did not get it working on the sound card right?
anyways, on my sb live value digital, i only have one jumper (j1) under the r132 and r133 bridge. it's set for 3 (as opposed to 1). no idea what this is for.
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12-27-2001, 08:54 PM
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Golden Member
Join Date: Oct 1999
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You're right they are the connectors for a daughter card, which would explain why my store bought SB Live! value does not have any of them covered with a jumper. But for some reason Dell had two jumpers covering some of the pins on the AUD_EXT portion of this card, and these are the jumpers he removed. I called Dell, the tech support lady didn't really help me out much.
Basically he thought the AUD_EXT portion of the card was an IDE connector, so he removed the jumpers. As far as I know, he didn't connect the ide cable to it because I don't think he could have. This is turning into a real mess though because he's going to go back to college tomorrow and his sisters computer is still broken.
I blame dell, why in the hell would they put jumpers on the AUD_EXT part of this card when no other SB Live card in the world seems to have them covered with jumpers.
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12-27-2001, 09:24 PM
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Lifer
Join Date: Feb 2001
Posts: 14,115
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<< I blame dell, why in the hell would they put jumpers on the AUD_EXT part of this card when no other SB Live card in the world seems to have them covered with jumpers >>
probably to keep people from putting something on there  , they probably didnt think anyone would take it off
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12-27-2001, 10:58 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Arizona
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Found this in the SB Live user's guide, don't know if it will help or not:
AUD_EXT connector pin assignments
Note
ADC stands for Analog-to-Digital Converter
Pin* Name********************* Description
1** ** VCC********************* +5V power supply
2** ** VCC********************* +5V power supply
3** ** GND********************* Ground
4** ** AC97CLK************** 24.5 MHz clock output
5** ** GND********************* Ground
6** ** GP_SPDIFIN#2******SPDIF input signal
7** ** GND********************* Ground
8** ** GND********************* Ground
9** ** SPDIFO#3************ SPDIF Out signal
10*** GPO1******************** General Purpose Output #1
11*** GPO2******************** General Purpose Output #2
12*** GND********************* Ground
13*** GPO0******************** General Purpose Output #0
14*** GND********************* Ground
15*** GP_SPDIFIN1******* SPDIF Input signal
16*** GND********************* Ground
17*** SPDIFO#0************ SPDIF Out signal
18*** GND********************* Ground
19*** SPDIFO#1************ SPDIF Out signal
20*** GND********************* Ground
21*** GND********************* Ground
22*** SPDIFO#2************ SPDIF Out signal
23*** GPI0********************* Digital Input (GP Input 0; Reserved)
24*** GPI1********************* Digital Input, (GP Input 1; Reserved)
25*** OUTMIDI*************** MIDI Output
26*** GND********************* Ground
27*** INMIDI****************** MIDI Input
28*** GND********************* Ground
29*** KEY*******
30*** KEY*******
31*** ADCSDO2************* I2S audio data input.
32*** GND********************* Ground
33*** ADCSDO1************* I2S audio data input.
34*** GND************* ******** Ground
35*** ADCSDO0************* I2S audio data input.
36*** GND********************* Ground
37*** I2SCLK***************** I2S serial bit clock.
38*** GND********************* Ground
39*** I2SFS******************* Frame sync.
40*** GND********************* Ground
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12-27-2001, 11:17 PM
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Golden Member
Join Date: Oct 1999
Posts: 1,154
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Thanks WildDreamer, I had not come across that particular information. Alas, Dell seems to use a slightly different SB Live value than the reglar ones, for starters pins 29 and 30 are not present. The model number of the Live card is CT4780. This card has some special feature that identifies it as a Dell card I read somewhere tonight, I swear this is the hardest thing for me to find any information on.
I called Dell tech support again, and must have been a little more assertive. The lady who talked to me this time put me on hold for 5 minutes, then comes back and says Dell will send us a new card. She said she had the jumper layout, but it was too hard to tell me over the phone and this would be easier. BS I say, she doesn't know! But, alls well that ends well, a Dell contracted technician will come out next week and swap in a new card, problem solved.
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