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Old 10-08-2009, 11:07 PM   #1
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Default Old system, new life: upgrading PCI-E 1.0 to 2.0

Looking for some advice. Can I upgrade my video editing workstation to a decent gaming system?

I have 2.5 year-old Xeon quad 2.66 (Cloverdale) workstation/server with a Quadro FX1500 graphics card and a Tyan S2696a2nrf motherboard. The Intel 5000X chipset appears to be PCI-E 1.0a compatible (based on spec sheet on Intel's web site).

I'm thinking about upgrading the video card with a goal of being able to play a few upcoming games at better-than-average (but not necessarily highest) settings without buying a new i7 system. Looking at the Sapphire 100279-1GL Radeon 4870 ($150 at Newegg), for example.

I know they are supposed to be compatible, but will a new PCI-E 2.0 card be limited by my motherboard's PCI-E 1.0a slot? My expectation is that the performance improvements would be very noticable and "worth it" - especially for games but also generally in Windows 7. Is there anything else I should check or keep in mind? I've done a little homework on this topic and know the stats above, but I really don't know a lot about components and systems overall.

Thanks in advance for any input!
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Old 10-08-2009, 11:55 PM   #2
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Default Old system, new life: upgrading PCI-E 1.0 to 2.0

No, PCI-E 1.0 won't limit a Radeon 4870.
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Old 10-09-2009, 12:05 AM   #3
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Default Old system, new life: upgrading PCI-E 1.0 to 2.0

You could buy a PCI-E 1.0 to 2.0 adapter. I think it would help you tremendously.
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Old 10-09-2009, 12:13 AM   #4
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Default Old system, new life: upgrading PCI-E 1.0 to 2.0

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Looking for some advice. Can I upgrade my video editing workstation to a decent gaming system?

I have 2.5 year-old Xeon quad 2.66 (Cloverdale) workstation/server with a Quadro FX1500 graphics card and a Tyan S2696a2nrf motherboard. The Intel 5000X chipset appears to be PCI-E 1.0a compatible (based on spec sheet on Intel's web site).

I'm thinking about upgrading the video card with a goal of being able to play a few upcoming games at better-than-average (but not necessarily highest) settings without buying a new i7 system. Looking at the Sapphire 100279-1GL Radeon 4870 ($150 at Newegg), for example.

I know they are supposed to be compatible, but will a new PCI-E 2.0 card be limited by my motherboard's PCI-E 1.0a slot? My expectation is that the performance improvements would be very noticable and "worth it" - especially for games but also generally in Windows 7. Is there anything else I should check or keep in mind? I've done a little homework on this topic and know the stats above, but I really don't know a lot about components and systems overall.

Thanks in advance for any input!
Some of the tests using P55 mobos with dual HD58xx running on x8 PCI-E 2.0 bandwidth don't show much slow down.

Since PCI-E 2.0 x8 bandwidth is equal to PCI-E 1.x at x16 I don't think there would be much if any performance loss.......even with HD58xx.

Someone correct me if I am wrong on this.
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Old 10-09-2009, 12:33 AM   #5
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Default Old system, new life: upgrading PCI-E 1.0 to 2.0

If you keep up with the benchmarks you'll know that at max PCI 1.0 will experience a 2% performance hit with the current generation of graphic cards. For me at least that's not enough to warrant upgrading to 2.0, since bandwidth isn't what the current cards are lacking.
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Old 10-09-2009, 12:35 AM   #6
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Default Old system, new life: upgrading PCI-E 1.0 to 2.0

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What are you talking about?
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Old 10-09-2009, 01:10 AM   #7
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Default Old system, new life: upgrading PCI-E 1.0 to 2.0

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You could buy a PCI-E 1.0 to 2.0 adapter. I think it would help you tremendously.
What are you talking about?
I think he was making a funny.
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Old 10-09-2009, 02:41 AM   #8
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Default Old system, new life: upgrading PCI-E 1.0 to 2.0

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You could buy a PCI-E 1.0 to 2.0 adapter. I think it would help you tremendously.
What are you talking about?
I think he was making a funny.
When there is someone totally unexperienced about these sort of hardware stuff, posting here for support, making jokes like that will not help him in any way.
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Old 10-09-2009, 03:34 AM   #9
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Default Old system, new life: upgrading PCI-E 1.0 to 2.0

Thanks everyone! And yes, I realized the adapter thing was a joke... and not a really bad one either. Just didn't think I'd sounded that dumb.

@dflynchimp: I'd get a newer, better 1.0 card if there was such a thing but everything's 2.0 now. I get your point though - thanks.
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Old 10-09-2009, 12:15 PM   #10
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Default Old system, new life: upgrading PCI-E 1.0 to 2.0

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You could buy a PCI-E 1.0 to 2.0 adapter. I think it would help you tremendously.
What are you talking about?
I think he was making a funny.
When there is someone totally unexperienced about these sort of hardware stuff, posting here for support, making jokes like that will not help him in any way.
I agree. No need to add confusion.
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