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Old 07-13-2013, 11:30 PM   #1
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Hey so i am trying to figure a build for gaming. I plan on making it from an fx base. From my understanding the fx-6300 is the best performance for games. From what i am reading the 8320/8350 are good for workstation performance but not the best for gaming. Iv checked the anandtech bench but not really what im looking for. i would like to compare all amd cpu's for the purpose of gaming only.
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Old 07-13-2013, 11:36 PM   #2
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8350 is always better in gaming(or anything), maybe the only reason you've heard 6300 is better is because it's cheaper by $60, so that u can put more into vid card.
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all you have to do is google reviews to see the 8350 is better for gaming. I dont see the reason to chose it over i5 though for a gaming build.
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Choosing an AMD CPU for gaming is like choosing a Pomeranian for hunting or a VW bus for racing. If there's a good reason please let me know.
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I have a better gaming experience with my 8350 compared to my 3770K, both @ stock. So I am a bit puzzled why people say AMD systems are inferior in gaming compared to Intel
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I have a better gaming experience with my 8350 compared to my 3770K, both @ stock. So I am a bit puzzled why people say AMD systems are inferior in gaming compared to Intel
Care to list the games you play? Thanks.
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He is imagining things, no offense. 100 reviews on the web say otherwise. Let's stick to hard numbers please.
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Care to list the games you play? Thanks.
Look up the tests in threads concerning graphic performance I did months ago and read them.
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He is imagining things, no offense. 100 reviews on the web say otherwise. Let's stick to hard numbers please.
A bit of ..................fanboyism? Thats not what helps people choose. My numbers were hard enough!!!
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A bit of ..................fanboyism? Thats not what helps people choose. My numbers were hard enough!!!
How about not using the rude f-word? I just voiced doubts, nothing to insult someone over.
Care to link to them? In any case, what you're saying contradicts the vast number of reviews in the web. I rather stick to results from people who have the expertise and experience of benchmarking instead of believing one single person who contradicts them.
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It depends on the game when choosing a CPU, especially comparing an i7 to an AMD CPU. Look here. Battlefield 3 is about the same. F1 2012 is a huge difference as is Skyrim.





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I have a better gaming experience with my 8350 compared to my 3770K, both @ stock. So I am a bit puzzled why people say AMD systems are inferior in gaming compared to Intel
Is that because you're using a 7950 with your 8350 and a 7850 with your 3770?
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What's your budget and what will the rig be used for/ what games will you be playing. The AMD FX 8350 isn't a bad chip for gaming like newer games but in older games its inferior to intel. If your budget permits then I suggest you get an i5 if not then save the money and get an FX 8320 instead of a 8350
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If you are gpu bound there will be very little difference between an 8350 and 3570/3770. In many more CPU dependent games, Intel will be significantly faster. In addition, where the 8350 is competitive/wins it is by a small margin, while 3570 wins by a large margin in a lot of games. Considering this and the fact that the 8350 uses more power as well, I see no reason to choose it over 3570k for gaming.

If you are very cost limited, the 6300 is a decent choice, but considering overall system cost, and assuming the system will last a few years at least, an i5 is overall the best choice for gaming, unless you already have a motherboard that will accept FX.
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How about not using the rude f-word? I just voiced doubts, nothing to insult someone over.
Care to link to them? In any case, what you're saying contradicts the vast number of reviews in the web. I rather stick to results from people who have the expertise and experience of benchmarking instead of believing one single person who contradicts them.
no kidding that goes against everything we have seen on the net. I wouldn't touch his one tho its only going to lead to the thread getting closed most of us know the truth.

OP go with the 8350 chip if going AMD.
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If you are very cost limited, the 6300 is a decent choice, but considering overall system cost, and assuming the system will last a few years at least, an i5 is overall the best choice for gaming, unless you already have a motherboard that will accept FX.
This. I wouldn't touch any AMD CPU for games. They are terrible. A fast CPU can last 3-4 years overclocked. It's worth it to get an i5-4670K over FX-6300 or any FX-8000 series because in the end you'll be upgrading your AMD CPU a lot sooner which means ironically it would cost you more $ to go AMD route long-term. The performance of AMD's CPUs in CPU limited games is lacklustre.


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AMD uses Intel CPUs in their GPU benches for a reason.

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AMD uses Intel CPUs in their GPU benches for a reason.
FX-8350 4.0ghz is barely faster than i7-875.



In many games it will be slower even.
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Is that because you're using a 7950 with your 8350 and a 7850 with your 3770?
I have used them both on both CPU's. People should stick to what they like best. I did not notice any benefit from a 3770....but that's my experience. I just don't take results from tests as granted........I have to test it myself. The only truth for me
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Those results are perfectly valid. Now if one perceives a difference between different fps values, is another matter altogether.
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Those results are perfectly valid. Now if one perceives a difference between different fps values, is another matter altogether.
Whatever? I use OCed graphic cards. Maybe thats the reason why the 8350 shines more. For example, my 8350 was faster in TR with allmost all options on.
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Whatever? I use OCed graphic cards. Maybe thats the reason why the 8350 shines more. For example, my 8350 was faster in TR with allmost all options on.
The opposite is true - the stronger a graphics card, the less it bottlenecks CPUs, making it easier tell them apart.
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A lot of Game Engines only use 2-4 threads, and some of those threads handle a bunch of different things. When an engine uses less than 8 threads, the 8350 will have a major disadvantage against Intel because of FX poor single threaded performance.

In the coming years, multithreaded gaming performance should increase.

I would love to see a Flight Simulator X benchmark. That game can utilize up to 256 logical processors. an i7 vs 8350 would be a great scenario.
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I would love to see a Flight Simulator X benchmark. That game can utilize up to 256 logical processors. an i7 vs 8350 would be a great scenario.


OC



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http://pclab.pl/art53333-14.html

looking at the core i3 is easy to conclude the game is not using many cores,

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This. I wouldn't touch any AMD CPU for games. They are terrible. A fast CPU can last 3-4 years overclocked. It's worth it to get an i5-4670K over FX-6300 or any FX-8000 series because in the end you'll be upgrading your AMD CPU a lot sooner which means ironically it would cost you more $ to go AMD route long-term. The performance of AMD's CPUs in CPU limited games is lacklustre.
So basically by your standards ANY Intel CPU under a Core i5 is useless too.

I have used the FX6300,SB/IB Core i3 and Core i5 CPUs(my builds and builds I have done for others) and I would say the unless for a subset of games,the Core i3 CPUs are a limitation(they cannot be even overclocked). I actually ditched my Core i3 for a Core i5 since it had subpar performance in some of the newer games,and yet my mate who had a FX6300 was fine.

Moreover what you fail to realise,is that with an FX6300 you could go with a better graphics card in the first place,and that a gaming rig is determined by both the CPU and GPU upgrade cycles.Unlike the US with it Microcentres,a Core i5 4670K is twice the price of an FX6300 where I live. The difference in price is equal to the difference between an HD7750 GDDR3/GDDR5 and a GTX660TI,HD7870,HD7870XT/LE,etc.

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