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Old 09-02-2012, 02:42 PM   #1
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Arrow IVY Bridge i3 & Pentium now available @ newegg.com

Intel Core i3-3220T Ivy Bridge 2.8GHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819116776

Intel Core i3-3220 Ivy Bridge 3.3GHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819116775

Intel Pentium G2120 Ivy Bridge 3.1GHz*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819116777
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Old 09-02-2012, 02:46 PM   #2
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Whats up with HD2500?

Those prices are very delicious looking though.

Whats the TDp on those two models? Better not be 77w.

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Non T is 55w, T is 35w.
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Old 09-02-2012, 02:48 PM   #3
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just $5 bucks more than a i3-2120
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Old 09-02-2012, 10:41 PM   #4
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I just ordered an i3-3220. I currently have a Silverstone Temjin TJ08B-E and I'm hoping the lower power consumption vs. the i3-2120 will let me run it with a fanless tower cooler (a Zerotherm ZT-10D). With my fanless Seasonic PSU, my system will then have only one fan - a low rpm 180mm. The i3-2120 gets close to be able to do this, but hits 60-65C under sustained load which is a bit too hot for my comfort. If the i3-3220 will hit 55-60C, I'll be set.

That G2120 is a lot of performance for $100.
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Old 09-03-2012, 01:49 AM   #5
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I'd expect the G2120 to drop in price unless Intel intends to release a lower end model Pentium.
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Old 09-03-2012, 02:05 AM   #6
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I was just looking to modify my HTPC setup. I CAN'T find performance information for these anywhere.
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Old 09-03-2012, 02:33 AM   #7
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Too expensive, we'll get 5-10% more performance for the same price as last year. The only positive is the lower power consumption but like in GPUs, 2012 is becoming the worst year for both CPU and GPU upgrades.
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Old 09-03-2012, 02:34 AM   #8
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I was just looking to modify my HTPC setup. I CAN'T find performance information for these anywhere.
The NDA probably hasn't expired yet. You could always look at any DC Sandy review for cpu performance (speeds for the normal models hasn't changed, so it'd only be 5% faster) and any Ivy review of the HD 2500/4000 for gpu performance.

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Too expensive, we'll get 5-10% more performance for the same price as last year.
The T models did get a nice bump. 2.5/2.6 to 2.8/2.9.

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Too expensive, we'll get 5-10% more performance for the same price as last year. The only positive is the lower power consumption but like in GPUs, 2012 is becoming the worst year for both CPU and GPU upgrades.
Could you be a bit more negative?

5-10% performance increase for the same price, yeah thats terrible.... of course 99.5% of consumers purchasing this product will be upgrading from something decidedly more ancient than SB so your point is just about completly invalid.
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Old 09-03-2012, 05:28 AM   #10
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Any word on the i3-3225? HD4000 graphics might make for a decent HTPC chip.
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Old 09-03-2012, 05:35 AM   #11
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Any word on the i3-3225? HD4000 graphics might make for a decent HTPC chip.
I don't get it why you need a HD4000 when HD2000 suffices.
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I don't get it why you need a HD4000 when HD2000 suffices.
Ability to do some light gaming.
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Old 09-03-2012, 05:39 AM   #13
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Could you be a bit more negative?

5-10% performance increase for the same price, yeah thats terrible.... of course 99.5% of consumers purchasing this product will be upgrading from something decidedly more ancient than SB so your point is just about completly invalid.
Im talking about people already own a SandyBridge Core i3/Pentium or Last year's AMD HD6xxx & NVIDIA GTX5xx GPUs.

Same as FX over Phenom II and IB Core i5/i7 over SB.
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Im talking about people already own a SandyBridge Core i3/Pentium or Last year's AMD HD6xxx & NVIDIA GTX5xx GPUs.

Same as FX over Phenom II and IB Core i5/i7 over SB.
The fact that you think Phenom II > FX is even remotely similar to SB > IB, tells me that this really isn't a conversation worth having.
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The fact that you think Phenom II > FX is even remotely similar to SB > IB, tells me that this really isn't a conversation worth having.
I dont care what you believe, the fact is that from a Phenom II/SB to FX/IB is not worth it (from performance stand point). Both cases gives you 5-10% more performance on average, it is pointless to upgrade as with this years GPUs, unless you really like to have the latest hardware.
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I just ordered an i3-3220. I currently have a Silverstone Temjin TJ08B-E and I'm hoping the lower power consumption vs. the i3-2120 will let me run it with a fanless tower cooler (a Zerotherm ZT-10D). With my fanless Seasonic PSU, my system will then have only one fan - a low rpm 180mm. The i3-2120 gets close to be able to do this, but hits 60-65C under sustained load which is a bit too hot for my comfort. If the i3-3220 will hit 55-60C, I'll be set.

That G2120 is a lot of performance for $100.
Unless you want your CPUs to last over 30 years you're being silly. Just think about it, TJ max for SB is 97C, at TJ max any SB CPU should last about 10years, every 10C temperature drop about doubles effective life of a chip. Do you really need your CPUs to last that long?
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Old 09-03-2012, 07:34 AM   #17
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Lower power consumption,better graphics,faster stock clockspeeds.

Having owned a i3 2100 with hd2000,i was able to play some games like Battlefield 2 at 1600x1200 without much issue,heck back in the day you needed like a freaking 6800 ultra to be able to run such a resolution.

HD2500 won't be a powerhouse gpu,but hey we are increasing ipc,while getting onboard graphics improvements should excite some people.
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The i3-2120 gets close to be able to do this, but hits 60-65C under sustained load which is a bit too hot for my comfort. If the i3-3220 will hit 55-60C, I'll be set..
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Unless you want your CPUs to last over 30 years you're being silly. Just think about it, TJ max for SB is 97C, at TJ max any SB CPU should last about 10years, every 10C temperature drop about doubles effective life of a chip. Do you really need your CPUs to last that long?
I think, the key word here is "comfort". Everybody's different with that
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Ability to do some light gaming.
The number of people buying these CPU's with the intent of gaming anything else but "facebook" games are so small that their numbers don't justify wasting CPU die space on a bigger IGP in the big picture.

The crowd cheering for bigger IGP's are far too loud compared to the demand...and their numbers.
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The number of people buying these CPU's with the intent of gaming anything else but "facebook" games are so small that their numbers don't justify wasting CPU die space on a bigger IGP in the big picture.

The crowd cheering for bigger IGP's are far too loud compared to the demand...and their numbers.
I've sold a lot of A6/A8 systems to people who want to play older titles. Granted those APUs' IGPs are a lot more capable than these IB IGPs, but the demand is there, at least in my experience.
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The number of people buying these CPU's with the intent of gaming anything else but "facebook" games are so small that their numbers don't justify wasting CPU die space on a bigger IGP in the big picture.

The crowd cheering for bigger IGP's are far too loud compared to the demand...and their numbers.
The amount of die space for the iGPU is the same on all Ivy Bridge chips. The number of shaders etc. enabled is the difference. Intel could enable far more i3s with full HD4000 if they wanted to.
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I don't see the appeal in buying an ib platform over an apu platform for htpc especially if you're considering light gaming
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I don't see the appeal in buying an ib platform over an apu platform for htpc especially if you're considering light gaming
Drop-in upgradability is one major selling point. There is a lot of room to go up from an IB PDC or i3; there is no room to go up from an A8-3870K.
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http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2012/2...ktop_CPUs.html
$37 Celeron with HT :
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Considering the Celeron G530 is a 2.4GHz dual-core that costs $45, dropping to a 1.9GHz single-core with HT to save $8 seems like a bad idea.
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