|
|
 |
05-21-2012, 04:55 PM
|
#1
|
|
Lifer
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 16,237
|
Photographing the upcoming Venus Transit
I haven't done much astrological type photography so looking for pointers or tips on photographing the upcoming venus transit. The photos are best taken at sunset so that means exposing the cameras sensor to focused direct sunlight. I don't have a lot of spare cash so looking for ways to minimize the damage that direct sunlight can cause and still get some good pics.
If you haven't heard of the venus transit, here is a link, next chance for viewing is 2117.
http://science.nasa.gov/venus-transit/
Last edited by Modelworks; 05-21-2012 at 04:57 PM.
|
|
|
05-21-2012, 05:17 PM
|
#2
|
|
Lifer
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 16,101
|
Don't expose your eyes to direct sunlight either.
What I would do is use live view rather than optical viewfinder, and use filters to darken the sun to protect the sensor. Stack a non circular polarizer in front of your normal circular polarizer. Then you can rotate them relative to each other to block any amount of light you want.
Theoretically you could also view the sun with your eyes if your adjustable sensor is set dark enough, but I wouldn't chance it... UV might still get through, or you could accidentally rotate it wrong, etc.
Maybe you could also place a piece of welding glass in front of your camera.
|
|
|
05-21-2012, 08:21 PM
|
#3
|
|
Lifer
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Land of Ahs
Posts: 22,990
|
Don't take chances with your eyes. Astronomy-grade mylar is super cheap on ebay ($10 for a 4"x4" sheet), or get some #14 welders glass.
__________________
“A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot...” ― Robert A. Heinlein
|
|
|
05-21-2012, 08:58 PM
|
#4
|
|
Platinum Member
Join Date: Jul 2000
Posts: 2,929
|
If you have a DSLR, I wouldn't be too worried about damaging the sensor with sunlight. The biggest concerns are prolonged exposures to sunlight which might physically burn the sensor from the light concentrated through the lens, but we're talking really long exposure times which you would normally only use at night. The sensor in an SLR is only exposed for a very short period of time under normal operation. That said, I wouldn't use Live View because this has your sensor constantly exposed to the light.
Also, the sunlight during sunset/sunrise is shone at a less direct angle so much of the light gets diffracted by the atmosphere and clouds. Thus the strength of the sunlight during these times isn't nearly as strong as during midday.
A P&S camera, however, typically always has the sensor exposed so these are much more susceptible to sunlight damage.
The biggest concern should be protecting your eyes, but you can still look through the viewfinder briefly - just don't look directly at the sun in the viewfinder. Look at the environment, focus, and composition of the picture around the sun and try not to look for that long.
|
|
|
05-21-2012, 11:19 PM
|
#5
|
|
Lifer
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 17,293
|
CDs work pretty well to blocking out enough light for safe viewing.
|
|
|
05-22-2012, 01:54 AM
|
#6
|
|
Lifer
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 16,101
|
CDs don't block that much light. You can even see a regular lightbulb through a CD
|
|
|
05-22-2012, 02:57 AM
|
#7
|
|
Lifer
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 17,293
|
I haven't tried it for photography, but I used it for the eclipse and it made viewing it quite comfortable. It's a quite common alternative to getting the eclipse glasses. I would only imagine a fast shutter with a stopped down lens being less sensitive than the retina.
|
|
|
05-22-2012, 03:46 AM
|
#8
|
|
Lifer
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 16,101
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by astroidea
I haven't tried it for photography, but I used it for the eclipse and it made viewing it quite comfortable. It's a quite common alternative to getting the eclipse glasses. I would only imagine a fast shutter with a stopped down lens being less sensitive than the retina.
|
You could view an eclipse comfortably with no eye protection, and that is the problem. Your eye doesn't detect how bright it is, because it sees mostly darkness with only a sliver of bright. But that sliver will burn your retina.
If you look at the sun intentionally on a normal day, you instinctively close your eyes and look away, but that reflex doesn't happen with an eclipse which makes them dangerous.
|
|
|
05-22-2012, 08:09 AM
|
#9
|
|
Lifer
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 17,293
|
You could view the sun uneclipsed comfortably with a CD.
|
|
|
05-22-2012, 09:33 AM
|
#10
|
|
Lifer
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Land of Ahs
Posts: 22,990
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by astroidea
You could view the sun uneclipsed comfortably with a CD.
|
Yes, you could. But it's not the visible light that will destroy your vision. Please don't encourage people to put theirs at risk, especially when safe alternatives are so easily available.
__________________
“A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot...” ― Robert A. Heinlein
|
|
|
05-22-2012, 12:54 PM
|
#11
|
|
Lifer
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Land of Ahs
Posts: 22,990
|
__________________
“A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot...” ― Robert A. Heinlein
|
|
|
05-25-2012, 02:35 AM
|
#12
|
|
Lifer
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 17,293
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by sixone
|
I stand corrected. Thanks for posting that link.
|
|
|
05-25-2012, 09:56 AM
|
#13
|
|
Lifer
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Land of Ahs
Posts: 22,990
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by astroidea
I stand corrected. Thanks for posting that link.
|
You're very welcome. I'd hate to see anyone lose their sight, even temporarily, when it's so easy to protect yourself.
__________________
“A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot...” ― Robert A. Heinlein
|
|
|
05-26-2012, 04:06 AM
|
#14
|
|
Lifer
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 16,101
|
The danger isn't losing your sight, it's burning your retina, which creates a permanent spot in your vision for the rest of your life.
|
|
|
06-06-2012, 12:42 AM
|
#15
|
|
Diamond Member
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 7,028
|
Let see some pics! Here's my first attempt at sun photography.
__________________
Does the noise in my head bother you?
PCs | HT | K6Plus
|
|
|
06-06-2012, 02:13 AM
|
#16
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 760
|
I'm no expert, but I like the picture! I'd say it's a job well done, Nohr!
|
|
|
06-06-2012, 09:19 AM
|
#17
|
|
Lifer
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Land of Ahs
Posts: 22,990
|
Here's another one:
__________________
“A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot...” ― Robert A. Heinlein
Last edited by sixone; 06-14-2012 at 09:38 AM.
|
|
|
06-07-2012, 09:41 PM
|
#18
|
|
Diamond Member
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 7,028
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Necrolezbeast
I'm no expert, but I like the picture! I'd say it's a job well done, Nohr!
|
Thanks! It came out pretty good considering how unprepared I was.
__________________
Does the noise in my head bother you?
PCs | HT | K6Plus
|
|
|
06-07-2012, 10:34 PM
|
#19
|
|
Lifer
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 16,101
|
Do you adjust white balance so the sun looks yellow/orange instead of white? Or is the color from the filter?
|
|
|
06-14-2012, 03:39 AM
|
#20
|
|
Diamond Member
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 7,028
|
It must be the filter. I didn't adjust the white balance.
No more pics?
__________________
Does the noise in my head bother you?
PCs | HT | K6Plus
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:26 AM.
|