Go Back   AnandTech Forums > Hardware and Technology > Memory and Storage

Forums
· Hardware and Technology
· CPUs and Overclocking
· Motherboards
· Video Cards and Graphics
· Memory and Storage
· Power Supplies
· Cases & Cooling
· SFF, Notebooks, Pre-Built/Barebones PCs
· Networking
· Peripherals
· General Hardware
· Highly Technical
· Computer Help
· Home Theater PCs
· Consumer Electronics
· Digital and Video Cameras
· Mobile Devices & Gadgets
· Audio/Video & Home Theater
· Software
· Software for Windows
· All Things Apple
· *nix Software
· Operating Systems
· Programming
· PC Gaming
· Console Gaming
· Distributed Computing
· Security
· Social
· Off Topic
· Politics and News
· Discussion Club
· Love and Relationships
· The Garage
· Health and Fitness
· Merchandise and Shopping
· For Sale/Trade
· Hot Deals
· Free Stuff
· Contests and Sweepstakes
· Black Friday 2013
· Forum Issues
· Technical Forum Issues
· Personal Forum Issues
· Suggestion Box
· Moderator Resources
· Moderator Discussions
   

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 04-20-2012, 03:31 PM   #1
reynoldsjrmy
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: UK
Posts: 61
Default 2 x OCZ Vertex 4 256GB in Raid 0

Hi,

I haven't posted over here that often but I thought folks would like to see what can be achieved with two of OCZ's latest Vertex 4 SSDs running in a P67 rig.

I am an SSD enthusiast but this is the first mega fast SSD based Raid 0 that I have implemented. There's no going back for me now

First an AS SSD -



and an Atto -



This was running using an Asus P8P67 with a Core I7-2700k @ 4800MHz and Intel RST 11.0.

Regds, JR
__________________
___________________________________

Asus P8Z77 WS; Intel Core I7-3770k; Corsair Dominator Platinum 2400 (4x4 GB); 2 x Asus GTX 580 SLI; 2 x OCZ Vertex 4 256GB (Raid 0); Big Spinners in R0, Lian Li PC-P80; Zalman Reserator XT, Seasonic 1000w Platinum

Dell XPS 17 lappy; Core I7-2670QM; 8GB RAM; OCZ Vector 256GB and OCZ Vertex 4 256GB

(Other SSDs - OCZ Vertex LE, OCZ Summit, OCZ Octane)
reynoldsjrmy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2012, 03:54 PM   #2
Rubycon
Madame President
 
Rubycon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: For A Moment It Seemed Like The Clouds Stopped Moving
Posts: 16,801
Default

Too bad they don't work on smart hosts. (Marvell bug)

Try Anvil disk benchmark.

http://thessdreview.com/latest-buzz/...ssd-benchmark/
Rubycon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2012, 04:09 PM   #3
reynoldsjrmy
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: UK
Posts: 61
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rubycon View Post
Too bad they don't work on smart hosts. (Marvell bug)

Try Anvil disk benchmark.

http://thessdreview.com/latest-buzz/...ssd-benchmark/
Hi Rubycon,

Why dont they work on Smart Hosts - do SMs not implement SATA standard?

I'll have a go at Anvil over the weekend and post the result.

Regds, JR
__________________
___________________________________

Asus P8Z77 WS; Intel Core I7-3770k; Corsair Dominator Platinum 2400 (4x4 GB); 2 x Asus GTX 580 SLI; 2 x OCZ Vertex 4 256GB (Raid 0); Big Spinners in R0, Lian Li PC-P80; Zalman Reserator XT, Seasonic 1000w Platinum

Dell XPS 17 lappy; Core I7-2670QM; 8GB RAM; OCZ Vector 256GB and OCZ Vertex 4 256GB

(Other SSDs - OCZ Vertex LE, OCZ Summit, OCZ Octane)
reynoldsjrmy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2012, 04:15 PM   #4
Rubycon
Madame President
 
Rubycon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: For A Moment It Seemed Like The Clouds Stopped Moving
Posts: 16,801
Default

It's an issue with certain Marvell controllers. The Crucial M4 had this issue that was recently fixed with a firmware update last week. Apparently the Plextor drives as well as the Vertex 4 are affected as well. See this thread:

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...sting-Vertex4s

A firmware update will fix this issue in the future.
Rubycon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2012, 10:15 PM   #5
Charlie98
Diamond Member
 
Charlie98's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: McKinney, TX
Posts: 3,356
Default

Awesome...!!!
__________________
DESK: i5 2500K, Giga Z68MA-D2H-B3, 212+ P/P, M5Pro 256GB, 1TB Seagate, 2x 4GB Samsung RAM, EVGA GTX560ti 448, Corsair TX750v2, Fractal Define Mini, W7
HTPC: Pentium G620, Giga B75M-D3H, Agility3 64GB, 3 x 2TB HDD, 2x 2GB Nanya RAM, Diamond HD6450, Corsair CX430v2, Fractal Define Mini, W7 WMC/MB
DESK3: (Under Construction) Pentium G3220, Giga H81M-H, Crucial M500 120GB, Team 2x 4GB RAM, Corsair CX430M
Charlie98 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2012, 10:54 PM   #6
fastman
Golden Member
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Posts: 1,402
Default

Did you do this for the benchmarks or are you running this in realworld scenario's?
If the latter, how do you like it?
__________________
Heat

3570K CPU with CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO | Asus Sabertooth Z77 | Samsung 830 256Gb, WD Black 2Tb | XFX7970 Black | 16Gb of Samsung MV-3V4G3D/US | Seasonic X650 | X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty | LG Blu-Ray Burner, Samsung DVD-DL Burner | Fractal R3 Case with extra 120mm and 140mm fans |

3dmark score 5859 PCMarks with AMD Radeon HD 7970(1x) and Intel Core i5-3570K Processor
3DMarks Score P8583 3DMarks, Graphics Score 8714, Physics Score 8334, Combined Score 8041
fastman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2012, 02:46 AM   #7
reynoldsjrmy
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: UK
Posts: 61
Default

Hi fastman,

I think the honest answer to your first question is - yes and yes

The answer to your second question -

Is it snappy as a boot drive? - yep, it bites my hand off every time I click the mouse

I'm an FPS gamer and I enjoy trying to make good videos - it is awesome in both these use cases.

Regds, JR
__________________
___________________________________

Asus P8Z77 WS; Intel Core I7-3770k; Corsair Dominator Platinum 2400 (4x4 GB); 2 x Asus GTX 580 SLI; 2 x OCZ Vertex 4 256GB (Raid 0); Big Spinners in R0, Lian Li PC-P80; Zalman Reserator XT, Seasonic 1000w Platinum

Dell XPS 17 lappy; Core I7-2670QM; 8GB RAM; OCZ Vector 256GB and OCZ Vertex 4 256GB

(Other SSDs - OCZ Vertex LE, OCZ Summit, OCZ Octane)
reynoldsjrmy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2012, 03:21 AM   #8
fastman
Golden Member
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Posts: 1,402
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by reynoldsjrmy View Post
Hi fastman,

I think the honest answer to your first question is - yes and yes

The answer to your second question -

Is it snappy as a boot drive? - yep, it bites my hand off every time I click the mouse

I'm an FPS gamer and I enjoy trying to make good videos - it is awesome in both these use cases.

Regds, JR
What controler are you using? Do you have TRIM on that MB with RAID?
__________________
Heat

3570K CPU with CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO | Asus Sabertooth Z77 | Samsung 830 256Gb, WD Black 2Tb | XFX7970 Black | 16Gb of Samsung MV-3V4G3D/US | Seasonic X650 | X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty | LG Blu-Ray Burner, Samsung DVD-DL Burner | Fractal R3 Case with extra 120mm and 140mm fans |

3dmark score 5859 PCMarks with AMD Radeon HD 7970(1x) and Intel Core i5-3570K Processor
3DMarks Score P8583 3DMarks, Graphics Score 8714, Physics Score 8334, Combined Score 8041
fastman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2012, 03:42 AM   #9
reynoldsjrmy
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: UK
Posts: 61
Default

Hi fastman,

I'm using the two native Intel Sata III ports on my P8P67.

As far as I am aware, no trim passthrough is available on RAID as yet, but the garbage collection functionality on the V4 seems very effective at maintaining performance (though I'm still in the process of getting to know if I need to leave my rig idling to faciliate GC (and, if so, for how long and what frequency))

Regds, JR
__________________
___________________________________

Asus P8Z77 WS; Intel Core I7-3770k; Corsair Dominator Platinum 2400 (4x4 GB); 2 x Asus GTX 580 SLI; 2 x OCZ Vertex 4 256GB (Raid 0); Big Spinners in R0, Lian Li PC-P80; Zalman Reserator XT, Seasonic 1000w Platinum

Dell XPS 17 lappy; Core I7-2670QM; 8GB RAM; OCZ Vector 256GB and OCZ Vertex 4 256GB

(Other SSDs - OCZ Vertex LE, OCZ Summit, OCZ Octane)

Last edited by reynoldsjrmy; 04-21-2012 at 04:20 AM.
reynoldsjrmy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2012, 04:34 AM   #10
Coup27
Golden Member
 
Coup27's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: England, UK
Posts: 1,714
Default

These TRIM enabled under RAID RST drivers which allegedly have been released twice already (previous thread on this forum) are looking like the emperor's new clothes to me.
__________________
Intel i5 4670 | Asus H87I-PLUS | Corsair XMS3 2x4GB | Samsung 840 Evo 120GB SSD | WD Green 3TB HDD | Seasonic SS-360GP | Lian-Li PC-Q27B mITX | Dell 23" IPS Monitor
Coup27 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2012, 06:41 AM   #11
Burner27
Moderator
Memory and Storage
Video Cards and Graphics
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Posts: 3,532
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coup27 View Post
These TRIM enabled under RAID RST drivers which allegedly have been released twice already (previous thread on this forum) are looking like the emperor's new clothes to me.
You still need the 11.0 or 11.5 ORom for your board AND the 11.5 RST driver for TRIM to work for RAID drives. It's looking like many of the P67 based mobos will NOT see this BIOS update and a new board will be needed for those who will not get the update from there mobo manufacturers.
Burner27 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2012, 07:50 AM   #12
reynoldsjrmy
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: UK
Posts: 61
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Burner27 View Post
You still need the 11.0 or 11.5 ORom for your board AND the 11.5 RST driver for TRIM to work for RAID drives. It's looking like many of the P67 based mobos will NOT see this BIOS update and a new board will be needed for those who will not get the update from there mobo manufacturers.
Interesting. I hope the 11.x Oroms are supported by Z77 mobos. This plus PCI 3 would be enough for me to upgrade my mobo.

Regds, JR
__________________
___________________________________

Asus P8Z77 WS; Intel Core I7-3770k; Corsair Dominator Platinum 2400 (4x4 GB); 2 x Asus GTX 580 SLI; 2 x OCZ Vertex 4 256GB (Raid 0); Big Spinners in R0, Lian Li PC-P80; Zalman Reserator XT, Seasonic 1000w Platinum

Dell XPS 17 lappy; Core I7-2670QM; 8GB RAM; OCZ Vector 256GB and OCZ Vertex 4 256GB

(Other SSDs - OCZ Vertex LE, OCZ Summit, OCZ Octane)
reynoldsjrmy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2012, 10:33 AM   #13
Burner27
Moderator
Memory and Storage
Video Cards and Graphics
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Posts: 3,532
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by reynoldsjrmy View Post
Interesting. I hope the 11.x Oroms are supported by Z77 mobos. This plus PCI 3 would be enough for me to upgrade my mobo.

Regds, JR
I believe (from what I have been reading) that some H67, all Z68, all X79, and all Z77 boards will get the ORom update to support TRIM for RAIDs.
Burner27 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2012, 10:37 AM   #14
reynoldsjrmy
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: UK
Posts: 61
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Burner27 View Post
I believe (from what I have been reading) that some H67, all Z68, all X79, and all Z77 boards will get the ORom update to support TRIM for RAIDs.
Thanks Burner, that is good news.

Regds, JR
__________________
___________________________________

Asus P8Z77 WS; Intel Core I7-3770k; Corsair Dominator Platinum 2400 (4x4 GB); 2 x Asus GTX 580 SLI; 2 x OCZ Vertex 4 256GB (Raid 0); Big Spinners in R0, Lian Li PC-P80; Zalman Reserator XT, Seasonic 1000w Platinum

Dell XPS 17 lappy; Core I7-2670QM; 8GB RAM; OCZ Vector 256GB and OCZ Vertex 4 256GB

(Other SSDs - OCZ Vertex LE, OCZ Summit, OCZ Octane)
reynoldsjrmy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2012, 01:00 PM   #15
reynoldsjrmy
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: UK
Posts: 61
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rubycon View Post
Too bad they don't work on smart hosts. (Marvell bug)

Try Anvil disk benchmark.
Hi Rubycon.

Here's an Anvil bench -




Regds, JR
__________________
___________________________________

Asus P8Z77 WS; Intel Core I7-3770k; Corsair Dominator Platinum 2400 (4x4 GB); 2 x Asus GTX 580 SLI; 2 x OCZ Vertex 4 256GB (Raid 0); Big Spinners in R0, Lian Li PC-P80; Zalman Reserator XT, Seasonic 1000w Platinum

Dell XPS 17 lappy; Core I7-2670QM; 8GB RAM; OCZ Vector 256GB and OCZ Vertex 4 256GB

(Other SSDs - OCZ Vertex LE, OCZ Summit, OCZ Octane)
reynoldsjrmy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2012, 03:36 PM   #16
Blades
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Posts: 850
Default

For comparison, here is my laptop..

__________________
Desktops:
-i7-3770K @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB Corsair 1600, Gigabyte UD5Hblah blah, Vertex3 120gb, H80
-i5-2500K @ 5.2ghz, 32GB Corsair DDR3-1600, ASrock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3, Vertex 3 120GB, H80
-1090T @ 4.1ghz , 16GB GSkill DDR3-1600, 4xRAID0 1TB, H80, etc etc
-other older comps as well.. most AMD based.
Laptop
Clevo P170HM, i7-2720QM, 16GB DDR3-1600, 2x RAID0 Vertex 3 120GB, 560M, etc etc

2006 Trailblazer SS Turbocharged 418 Stroker
2007 Cadillac STS-V Intake & Tune..
Yep, put the cars in.
Blades is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2012, 03:44 PM   #17
reynoldsjrmy
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: UK
Posts: 61
Default

Ho Ho Blades,

Compression or Caching?

Regds, JR
__________________
___________________________________

Asus P8Z77 WS; Intel Core I7-3770k; Corsair Dominator Platinum 2400 (4x4 GB); 2 x Asus GTX 580 SLI; 2 x OCZ Vertex 4 256GB (Raid 0); Big Spinners in R0, Lian Li PC-P80; Zalman Reserator XT, Seasonic 1000w Platinum

Dell XPS 17 lappy; Core I7-2670QM; 8GB RAM; OCZ Vector 256GB and OCZ Vertex 4 256GB

(Other SSDs - OCZ Vertex LE, OCZ Summit, OCZ Octane)
reynoldsjrmy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2012, 03:47 PM   #18
kbp
Senior Member
 
kbp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Northern Lower Peninsula
Posts: 568
Default

RAID-ed
__________________

kbp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2012, 07:48 PM   #19
icanhascpu2
Senior Member
 
icanhascpu2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 228
Default

Very nice. (stuck in SATAII)
icanhascpu2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-22-2012, 03:04 AM   #20
slow_poke
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 22
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coup27 View Post
These TRIM enabled under RAID RST drivers which allegedly have been released twice already (previous thread on this forum) are looking like the emperor's new clothes to me.
There is no trim in R0 yet. The release notes from the two 11.5 alphas clearly stated that these drivers did not enable trim under R0.
slow_poke is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2012, 02:05 PM   #21
reynoldsjrmy
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: UK
Posts: 61
Default

Yep - as Coup says - the Emperor has got no clothes on (yet)

Regds, JR
__________________
___________________________________

Asus P8Z77 WS; Intel Core I7-3770k; Corsair Dominator Platinum 2400 (4x4 GB); 2 x Asus GTX 580 SLI; 2 x OCZ Vertex 4 256GB (Raid 0); Big Spinners in R0, Lian Li PC-P80; Zalman Reserator XT, Seasonic 1000w Platinum

Dell XPS 17 lappy; Core I7-2670QM; 8GB RAM; OCZ Vector 256GB and OCZ Vertex 4 256GB

(Other SSDs - OCZ Vertex LE, OCZ Summit, OCZ Octane)
reynoldsjrmy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2012, 02:55 PM   #22
Blades
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Posts: 850
Default

Its a big deal when I write a huge file to my laptop's drives. Usually I just use usb 3.0.. I keep them pretty much 88%+ free space and occasionally run freespacecleaner.. and then let the garbage collection do its thing.. Which supposedly works at idle.. It sort of defeats the whole purpose of having these, doesn't? No... the reason I went with RAID 0 is to avoid the bluescreens and bullshit I was dealing with on a single drive.. Not a very great solution, but a fast one, regardless..

Hell, I even played Deus Ex off my USB 3.0 flash drive.. which was great, since its a Patriot SuperSonic Magnum? Whatever the long name is, the transfer rates are equiv to a SSD!
__________________
Desktops:
-i7-3770K @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB Corsair 1600, Gigabyte UD5Hblah blah, Vertex3 120gb, H80
-i5-2500K @ 5.2ghz, 32GB Corsair DDR3-1600, ASrock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3, Vertex 3 120GB, H80
-1090T @ 4.1ghz , 16GB GSkill DDR3-1600, 4xRAID0 1TB, H80, etc etc
-other older comps as well.. most AMD based.
Laptop
Clevo P170HM, i7-2720QM, 16GB DDR3-1600, 2x RAID0 Vertex 3 120GB, 560M, etc etc

2006 Trailblazer SS Turbocharged 418 Stroker
2007 Cadillac STS-V Intake & Tune..
Yep, put the cars in.
Blades is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2012, 03:15 PM   #23
Burner27
Moderator
Memory and Storage
Video Cards and Graphics
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Posts: 3,532
Default

Do your benchmarks change (AS-SSD) when you run the CPU at stock?
Burner27 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2012, 03:28 PM   #24
Coup27
Golden Member
 
Coup27's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: England, UK
Posts: 1,714
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by slow_poke View Post
There is no trim in R0 yet. The release notes from the two 11.5 alphas clearly stated that these drivers did not enable trim under R0.
I have not read the release notes but if this is the case then what is the point? I doubt many people use 2 SSD's in RAID1 or multiple SSDs in RAID5 or whatever else. The main clamour for these drivers are from people who stick 2 SSDs in RAID0.
__________________
Intel i5 4670 | Asus H87I-PLUS | Corsair XMS3 2x4GB | Samsung 840 Evo 120GB SSD | WD Green 3TB HDD | Seasonic SS-360GP | Lian-Li PC-Q27B mITX | Dell 23" IPS Monitor
Coup27 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2012, 10:22 PM   #25
Blades
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Posts: 850
Default

RAID 1 is easier to have trim implemented because both drives have the same data. RAID 0, not so much... The FS can have files that are deleted that are not exactly deleted until the space on the drive that the aforementioned deleted files occupy is overwritten by newer files... SSDs don't understand this.. if a nand cell has data, it has data.. until the firmware tells it that it doesn't have data.. Meaning... there is no such thing as an overwrite command in SSDland.. There is only write/read/delete. I'm pretty sure thats the way it goes.. but the TRIM command is from the OS to the controller.. telling it to tell the firmware to flag the nand cells as 0.. I'm sure I'm missing pieces of how this works.. But its like realtime freespace cleaning.. marking files deleted as truly unallocated space (0)..
__________________
Desktops:
-i7-3770K @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB Corsair 1600, Gigabyte UD5Hblah blah, Vertex3 120gb, H80
-i5-2500K @ 5.2ghz, 32GB Corsair DDR3-1600, ASrock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3, Vertex 3 120GB, H80
-1090T @ 4.1ghz , 16GB GSkill DDR3-1600, 4xRAID0 1TB, H80, etc etc
-other older comps as well.. most AMD based.
Laptop
Clevo P170HM, i7-2720QM, 16GB DDR3-1600, 2x RAID0 Vertex 3 120GB, 560M, etc etc

2006 Trailblazer SS Turbocharged 418 Stroker
2007 Cadillac STS-V Intake & Tune..
Yep, put the cars in.
Blades is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:46 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.