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Old 03-19-2011, 02:28 AM   #1
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Default H61 vs. H67 chipsets - anything bad besides no SATA 6Gb?

H61 boards are going for as low as $65. If you aren't planning to buy a -K CPU that needs P67 and don't need SATA 6Gb, is there any reasons to pay extra for H67 instead of H61? (A google search didn't turn up any articles on H61, just H67 vs. P67.)

My work PC is a socket 775 G31 motherboard (Dell Vostro) and it works just fine with a Q6600 and 8800GS graphics card, so that has me wondering about the 1155 equivalent.
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Old 03-19-2011, 03:44 AM   #2
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I looked it up. You get 2 less SATA II-300 ports compared to P67/H67. Other than that I think you'll be fine.
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Old 03-19-2011, 10:33 AM   #3
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I really don't see much reason for the H67 to even exist. Yeah, GPU overclocking, something many people won't use. H61 boards seem to be a LOT cheaper than H67 boards. Unless I'm missing something, I really think very few would want to use an H67.
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Old 03-23-2011, 07:25 PM   #4
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H61 appear to be aimed at micro ATX and ITX boards, one 2x16 slot.
Interesting though.
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Old 03-23-2011, 09:36 PM   #5
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again low cost, low cost, low cost... if you don't need the features, dont buy it.

though plan for some upgradability in the future if you think you might have more drives... or just buy a x1 sata card
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Old 03-24-2011, 10:42 AM   #6
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The difference between the H67 and the H61 series chipset sets can be seen here http://ark.intel.com/Compare.aspx?ids=52807,52806,. In the end the H61 series is designed to be an entry level board chipset and will not allow many of the performance features that you may find with the H67 or P67 series may have available.

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Old 03-24-2011, 10:51 AM   #7
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Looks like the H61 is the defective H67 chips, i.e. no SATA 6gb support it seems.

Also the H61 has no clear video, less USB ports, and some other small items as such.
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The thing that turned me off was that it had less PCIe lanes.
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Old 03-24-2011, 11:13 AM   #9
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Looks like the H61 is the defective H67 chips, i.e. no SATA 6gb support it seems.
The recall was for defective 3 Gb ports, so no if you mean B2 chips.

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The thing that turned me off was that it had less PCIe lanes.
Think about a budget gaming system with 1 - GPU, 1-2 regular HDDs or at most a slower, cheap closeout SSD that doesn't need 6Gb, and onboard sound.

You save ~$35 over buying H67, and ~$55 over P67, which you can use to move from 4 GB ot 8 GB RAM, or from a 6850 / 460 to a 6950 / 560 GPU, or just to pocket the difference.

At the lowest end, H61 + i3-2100 is only ~$20 over a Phenom II X2 565 and is faster while using less power.

I've also read the stock AMD cooler is currently much louder than intel's but my last AMDs were socket 939 so I can't confirm that.

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Old 03-24-2011, 12:45 PM   #10
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I'm planning out a budget build right now, with plans for only 1 GPU, 1 HDD, but with a good SSD, with no plans on overclocking. Would the H61 work with this, or does the SSD need SATA 6gb?
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Looks like the H61 is the defective H67 chips, i.e. no SATA 6gb support it seems.

Also the H61 has no clear video, less USB ports, and some other small items as such.
IIRC, it was the SATAII (3.0gbs) x 4 that had the defect, the SATA3 (6.0gbps) were fine

no RAID either (Intel® Rapid Storage Technology (Intel® RST))

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I'm planning out a budget build right now, with plans for only 1 GPU, 1 HDD, but with a good SSD, with no plans on overclocking. Would the H61 work with this, or does the SSD need SATA 6gb?
only if you get an SSD w/ SATA 6gbs (Vertex 3, Intel 520, etc..) but if you get a Vertex 2 or Intel X25-M you're fine
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Old 03-24-2011, 01:21 PM   #12
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You definitely want 6 Gb for an intel 510 or Vertex 3, they are more than 50% faster for sequential reads such as loading game levels / maps:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4202/t...d-510-review/5

For older / cheaper SSDs the 3 Gb port is fine.
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Old 04-04-2011, 01:32 AM   #13
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I really don't see much reason for the H67 to even exist. Yeah, GPU overclocking, something many people won't use. H61 boards seem to be a LOT cheaper than H67 boards. Unless I'm missing something, I really think very few would want to use an H67.
I thought the point for H67 to exist was to allow integrated gpu to be used. I also thought P67 boards have iGPU functionality completely disabled and require you to get your own discrete graphics card. This is why I got an H67 board; the iGPU that comes with 2500k will do just fine for me while saving me money (on not buying a graphics card).

In any case, I stumbled on this thread while also trying to find out the difference between H67 and H61. I had no idea H61 even existed until about 20 mins ago. Hmm, it's still not very clear to me, even with Christian Wood's link.

And how do you know it has less PCIe lanes? That's not the same thing as the "# of PCI Express Ports" on the spec sheet, is it?

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Old 04-04-2011, 02:43 AM   #14
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H61 vs. H67: Cheaper, less USB (10 vs. 14), less SATA3 (4 vs. 6 [no SATA3]), less PCIe lanes (6 vs. 8), no Clear Video Technology, no Rapid Storage Technology (no RAID).
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Does anyone know what the real diff between a H61 and an H67 chipset is?

This thread was talking about the H61 not having SATA 6Gb/s support, but that is not true - check this!

So if it has SATA 6gb/s and USB 3.0 support then what is it lacking for intel to price it lower, is it just the number of ports and absence of RST?
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As a user of an mATX H61, I can say I didn't miss any features and am fully content with the purchase
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Does anyone know what the real diff between a H61 and an H67 chipset is?

This thread was talking about the H61 not having SATA 6Gb/s support, but that is not true
No, all the above is true. The SATA 6 Gb ports on that ASRock were added using a third-party controller, they aren't intel ports from the H61.

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Does anyone know what the real diff between a H61 and an H67 chipset is?

This thread was talking about the H61 not having SATA 6Gb/s support, but that is not true - check this!

So if it has SATA 6gb/s and USB 3.0 support then what is it lacking for intel to price it lower, is it just the number of ports and absence of RST?
I been eye balling this mobo as well for a budget build using a i5 2400 and probably a 6850/70 or possibly a 6950. Anyone else use it? NE reviewers are not always the most reliable.
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H61 boards are going for as low as $65. If you aren't planning to buy a -K CPU that needs P67 and don't need SATA 6Gb, is there any reasons to pay extra for H67 instead of H61? (A google search didn't turn up any articles on H61, just H67 vs. P67.)

My work PC is a socket 775 G31 motherboard (Dell Vostro) and it works just fine with a Q6600 and 8800GS graphics card, so that has me wondering about the 1155 equivalent.
I have three Intel DH61WW Motherboards with i3-2100. I faced freezing problem on all three mobos for last one year. And each mobos are replaced lots of times from Intel RMA(Digicare) and all mobos show same problem. I waste my lots of time for it.

The problem is it turn off within a half hour and not turn on quickly. This problem shows even it was working on CMOS setting menu by F2 key when it was connected only to the display, memory, keyboard & cpu with a well worked PSU.

Also, sometimes the DH61WW motherboard PCs turn off without a reason and it may working after a while.

All Voltages are perfectly shows even after freeze. And all motherboard components are working good. Also all temperature values below in 55C.

In my experience the DH61WW may not ahead a period of six month, if use at least 8 hours per day. And the replaced DH61WW is stopped working with in few days.

I feel DH61WW/H61 chipset has a bug. So no one purchase a H61 chipset motherboards as blind. Coz Intel may continue this dirt chipset for there new 22nm Ivy Bridge processor.

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