Go Back   AnandTech Forums > Social > The Garage

Forums
· Hardware and Technology
· CPUs and Overclocking
· Motherboards
· Video Cards and Graphics
· Memory and Storage
· Power Supplies
· Cases & Cooling
· SFF, Notebooks, Pre-Built/Barebones PCs
· Networking
· Peripherals
· General Hardware
· Highly Technical
· Computer Help
· Home Theater PCs
· Consumer Electronics
· Digital and Video Cameras
· Mobile Devices & Gadgets
· Audio/Video & Home Theater
· Software
· Software for Windows
· All Things Apple
· *nix Software
· Operating Systems
· Programming
· PC Gaming
· Console Gaming
· Distributed Computing
· Security
· Social
· Off Topic
· Politics and News
· Discussion Club
· Love and Relationships
· The Garage
· Health and Fitness
· Merchandise and Shopping
· For Sale/Trade
· Hot Deals with Free Stuff/Contests
· Black Friday 2014
· Forum Issues
· Technical Forum Issues
· Personal Forum Issues
· Suggestion Box
· Moderator Resources
· Moderator Discussions
   

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 12-28-2010, 08:17 PM   #1
zeelandia
Junior Member
 
zeelandia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: DC Metropolitan Area
Posts: 15
Default Putting new engine into a $1200 Chevy Astro worth it?

I've been searching around for a new car; new being relative here. I've always thought the Chevy Astro van to be pretty helpful. I finally found a '00 model off of Craigslist for $1200 with an engine that looks to be shot.

1) How much would a new engine cost? Like $1500 maybe?
2) How much would labor cost?
3) Ultimately, you guys think its worth it?

Let's say engine and labor is $3000 total. Thats like having a new car for $4500. Right? Right...?

As always, your opinions are valued no matter how insulting.
zeelandia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2010, 08:46 PM   #2
wiredspider
Diamond Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Posts: 5,240
Default

idk, the garage is here http://forums.anandtech.com/forumdisplay.php?f=49
wiredspider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2010, 08:49 PM   #3
quakefiend420
Lifer
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 14,655
Default

no, because the engine isn't the only component of a vehicle...you have the transmission and the rest of the driveline, suspension, electrical, etc etc
__________________
On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero...
Official Member of the ATOT Night Crew | Heat

Please smoke elsewhere for a month.
AnandTech Moderator

quakefiend420 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2010, 08:50 PM   #4
RPD
Diamond Member
 
RPD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 3,749
Default

No and wrong forum
RPD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2010, 08:52 PM   #5
lxskllr
Lifer
 
lxskllr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow
Posts: 38,085
Default

$1,200 sounds high to me for an 11 year old Astro with a blown motor. It /might/ be worth it if the rest was in good shape, AND you did the work yourself, but not paying someone to do the work for you.
lxskllr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2010, 09:02 PM   #6
memory
Senior Member
 
memory's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 739
Default

My dad has a 89 Chevy 2500 that recently had a new motor installed. He bought a brand new GM crate engine(350 I think) for $800 from Coyle Chevrolet. He still had to pay for labor(not through Coyle) to install it but don't know how much. I would not think it would be anywhere near $3000.
__________________
My Heat
My Ebay

My Desktop
Case: Antec 1200, CPU: Intel i7 920, Cooler: Noctua NH-D14, MOBO: Gigabyte X58-UD3R, RAM: Corsair DDR3 1600 6gb(3x2gb), GPU: XFX 5870 1gb XXX, PSU: Corsair 850HX, SS OCZ Vertex 2 120gb, HD 500gb WD, Windows 7 Pro 64bit
memory is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2010, 09:17 PM   #7
Fenixgoon
Lifer
 
Fenixgoon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Lanesplitting on the 405
Posts: 23,497
Default

you have to factor in the cost of the engine *and* the labor. labor is $$$$
__________________
Official Member of the ATOT Night Crew
heatware
Fenixgoon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2010, 09:21 PM   #8
mmntech
Lifer
 
mmntech's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 14,460
Default

Is this it?
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/n...129381964.html

Guy claims the engine is ok. 220,000 miles is a lot though IMO. No telling what else could be wrong. Transmission goes, that's a costly fix.
__________________
Callout portion of post removed, which left only "I'll be showing my girlfriend my massive penis..." Since that is obviously some kind of typo I deleted it as well. - allisolm

Boycott SiriusXM
mmntech is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2010, 09:35 PM   #9
iGas
Diamond Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 6,140
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mmntech View Post
Is this it?
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/n...129381964.html

Guy claims the engine is ok. 220,000 miles is a lot though IMO. No telling what else could be wrong. Transmission goes, that's a costly fix.
Not worth it if it is a service vehicle, because the transmission and suspension can go at anytime due to weight over load and abuse.
iGas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2010, 10:17 PM   #10
Iron Woode
Lifer
 
Iron Woode's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: London, Ontario Canada
Posts: 20,571
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by zeelandia View Post
I've been searching around for a new car; new being relative here. I've always thought the Chevy Astro van to be pretty helpful. I finally found a '00 model off of Craigslist for $1200 with an engine that looks to be shot.

1) How much would a new engine cost? Like $1500 maybe?
2) How much would labor cost?
3) Ultimately, you guys think its worth it?

Let's say engine and labor is $3000 total. Thats like having a new car for $4500. Right? Right...?

As always, your opinions are valued no matter how insulting.
either get a reman'd v6 or buy a SBC swap kit and make a killer van out of it.

__________________
My Rigs

When I was four I gave myself a needle and the whole hospital said I got shot when I was 22 and asian. I drove a black honda. - catchphrase

Compare your lives to mine and then kill yourselves
Iron Woode is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2010, 10:41 PM   #11
thomsbrain
Lifer
 
thomsbrain's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 17,877
Default

Transmissions are notorious weak points on Astros.

Personally, I don't think the van will be worth $4500 when you're done fixing it. $0.02.
__________________
Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives -- John Stuart Mill, English economist & philosopher
Current 2003 Honda Accord EX V6 mileage: 246,000
Current 2006 Honda S2000 mileage: 49,000
thomsbrain is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2010, 11:23 PM   #12
kornphlake
Golden Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 1,548
Default

First off the 4l60e transmission is no more prone to failure than any other transmission in any other mini-van. That transmission is used in several GM vehicles including several heavier vehicles and/or vehicles with much more powerful engines than the 4.3l vortec. I won't say it's perfect, but I wouldn't suspect it to fail any sooner than any other transmission of the same age. Second, plenty of people put V8 engines in Astro vans and report no problems except for a stupid grin that takes weeks to wash off. That said, I'd probably pass on that van unless you've 1) done an engine swap before or 2) you're looking for a project car so you can say you've done an engine swap in the future.

Last edited by kornphlake; 12-28-2010 at 11:25 PM.
kornphlake is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2010, 05:14 AM   #13
BTRY B 529th FA BN
Lifer
 
BTRY B 529th FA BN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 12,884
Default

wow
__________________
Rig1: Xeon X5660 6core 32nm @ 4.2GHz @ 1.26v, Asrock X58, GTX 670 FTW, Samsung 128Gb 840 Pro, Vertex2 100Gb, Cherry MX Reds, 2009 Seasonic X 650w, Aluminum Full tower - Currently doing gaming and daily duties.
Rig2: i7 970 6core 32nm @ Stock, EVGA 760 Classified,
Nvidia 0db 210, Elpida Hyper CL6.6.6.15, Samsung Evo 120Gb, Vertex LE 100Gb, Cherry MX Blacks, Sidewinder X3, Enermax Revo 950w, Obsidian 800D - On Vacation
BTRY B 529th FA BN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2010, 05:31 AM   #14
Meghan54
Diamond Member
 
Meghan54's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Rollin' Rollin' Rollin', keep them doggies rollin'
Posts: 5,238
Default

I have to ask.....OP, have you ever driven/lived with an Astro van for any length of time?

If you haven't....they're very stiffly sprung and ride like a concrete block when empty, they're not exactly quiet under any circumstance, the driving position is not the best...esp. foot placement as the wheel well intrudes a LOT into the foot well, they're rather hungry beasts, and did I mention they're not exactly quiet?

As for the mileage, depends upon how it was maintained. While my current vehicle isn't an Astro van (although I owned one for a year), I've got a GM vehicle with the same exact drivetrain with 220K miles on it and have no qualms about hitching up our boat and pulling it for hours.....in fact, it's going to pull the boat to the lake on Friday if the weather forcasts are correct and we hit 70F as predicted.
__________________
Heat
Ebay
"As soon as men decide that all means are permitted to fight an evil, then their good becomes indistinguishable from the evil that they set out to destroy."
-Christopher Dawson
Meghan54 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2010, 07:13 AM   #15
dawp
Diamond Member
 
dawp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: here until I move again
Posts: 6,709
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mmntech View Post
Is this it?
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/n...129381964.html

Guy claims the engine is ok. 220,000 miles is a lot though IMO. No telling what else could be wrong. Transmission goes, that's a costly fix.
if it overheats in 10 minutes, I'd say a bad thermostat, easy test is to just remove it and let it run and if it works fine, that was the problem. It'll cost less tham 20 bucks to replace it.
__________________
We Have Met The Enemy and He Is Us

ASUS p8z77 v, i7 3770k, crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB, XFX HD7970 Black Edition
dawp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2010, 07:22 AM   #16
Marlin1975
Lifer
 
Marlin1975's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: aaaaa
Posts: 21,503
Default

Cars/Trucks that need major work like that are knows as mechanic specials. If you can't do the work then it is probable not worth it. If it was worth it to replace the motor/trans and then sell they would.
__________________
Quote:
Originally posted by: JS80
Even I will admit if it were under Bush I would find an excuse to support it even if I thought it was a waste of money.
Quote:
Originally posted by: spidey07
No muslims, no athiests, no gays.
Quote:
Originally Posted by spidey07 View Post
I'm proud to be a racist now. VERY proud.
Marlin1975 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2010, 10:21 AM   #17
AMCRambler
Diamond Member
 
AMCRambler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Literbike
Posts: 7,342
Thumbs up

Not worth it.

For $4,500 you can get a pretty nice used van. A van with a blown motor has likely been abused which means it can have a lot more problems that aren't readily apparent.

Here are a few near me:

2002 Chevy Astro 125,400mi - $4,500
2003 Chevy Astro 132,423mi - $4,495
2003 Chevy Astro AWD 135,000mi - $3,900

Forget buying one with a blown motor. It's not worth the hassle. Especially an Astro van that's not going to be worth the money you're putting into it.
__________________
Hook the pain ray up to a satellite, set it to "popcorn" and point it at Afghanistan.
Nebor

He goes, you the same as me for my car.
Lean L
AMCRambler is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2010, 12:23 PM   #18
halik
Lifer
 
halik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Posts: 25,022
Default

Why would you want that vehicle?
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by SamurAchzar View Post
It seems like people want to bend reality any way they wish. Jobs are created by economic activity, and this economic activity happens because of self-made people of all races and colors that are motivated by greed. The sooner we understand it the better we are.
halik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2010, 03:03 PM   #19
SJP0tato
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 267
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dawp View Post
if it overheats in 10 minutes, I'd say a bad thermostat, easy test is to just remove it and let it run and if it works fine, that was the problem. It'll cost less tham 20 bucks to replace it.
This is true, that or the water pump are likely culprits. The trouble is most people who'd sell a vehicle for overheating have probably already driven hundreds/thousands of miles on it in an overheated condition blowing headgaskets, warping heads/decks, and just generally destroying the engine. It's possible to get lucky and find one that just needs a few parts and some TLC, but it's equally as likely to find one that's 100% trashed and not worth salvaging.
SJP0tato is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2010, 08:18 PM   #20
kornphlake
Golden Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 1,548
Default

$1200 is pretty cheap for a lockable outdoor storage container, I don't think there are permitting requirements like there would be with a shed or other temporary building. For a van with that many miles and of that age I don't think it's worth the price.
kornphlake is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2010, 10:37 PM   #21
GuitarDaddy
Lifer
 
GuitarDaddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Dallas/Ft. Worth
Posts: 11,466
Default

No Wai!
GuitarDaddy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2010, 11:36 PM   #22
MovingTarget
Diamond Member
 
MovingTarget's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 8,505
Default

Astro Vans are pretty useful/durable vehicles. However, considering how common they were I'd find one in better condition unless you know how to replace that engine yourself.
__________________
Insert signature here.
MovingTarget is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2010, 09:47 AM   #23
exar333
Diamond Member
 
exar333's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 6,588
Default

If you can do the work yourself (or know someone who can do it for you), replacing the engine would make sense. For this car, you would probably do better with just getting a new one.
__________________
My Cars:
-2011 DGM WRX Limited
My Rig:
4670K @ 4.0 Ghz w/ CM 212
GTX 970 @ 1501/7780
3440x1440 LG 34UM95 QHD Display
exar333 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:22 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.