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Old 07-02-2010, 02:25 AM   #1
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Hello,

OK, my core 2 e8400 is not cutting it any longer for my gaming needs, so I need to upgrade to something a bit better.

I'm looking at i7-920 and i7-930 (socket 1366), would those be worthwhile upgrades? Or should I look for something else? Perhaps one of the i7s on 1156 socket for better value?

As a sidenote..... why is i7-930 (2.8Ghz) $5 cheaper than i7-920 (2.6Ghz) on newegg? Is 930 handicapped in some way compared to 920? Would make sense if 930 was at least $20 more expensive instead of $5 cheaper.

P.S. I am willing to switch to AMD as well if the price/performance is right...lol...I'm gonna go to hell

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Old 07-02-2010, 04:05 AM   #2
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If your concerned over price/performance and gaming is all your intending to do, well at least the primary thing, than I would grab an I5 750. AMD has great price/performance but they don't really have performance to match the I5/I7(Phenom II does come really close in gaming, gets blown away else where).

Not sure why the 930 is cheaper than the 920, but they're the same processor except the 930 is a newer speed bump. It's just newegg pricing, they usually have the older C2 Phenom II processors priced a little higher than the newer better C3 stepping. lol
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Old 07-02-2010, 06:17 AM   #3
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Phenom 955BE C3 / Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4

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Phenom II does come really close in gaming, gets blown away else where.
How so?
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(Phenom II does come really close in gaming, gets blown away else where).
This statement is a little out-of-date. Thuban did a lot to help AMD close the gap with Bloomfield and Lynnfield in multithreaded apps, but did nothing to help AMD's gaming performance (other than present overclockers with a better overclocker than Deneb).
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How so?
The Phenom 2 series has exceptional game performance, but in things like media encoding/folding, the i series has much better perclock performance.

With either CPU, you're going to end up GPU limited before they hit a CPU wall.

So if gaming is pretty much your only compute-heavy concern, and you don't have multiple GPUs, then a P2 is probably the best bang for buck.
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um encoding is where the Thubans do well. And in the case of folding, the only reason why the i7s do well there is because of -adv. If Stanford allowed the AMD hexa-cores -adv they would be about even.
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Old 07-02-2010, 07:52 AM   #8
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Doesn't the i5-750 trounce the 955 BE on most benchmarks? For gaming only, I'd opt for the Intel chips over the AMD. An i5-750/i7-860 would be sweet for gaming.
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Old 07-02-2010, 09:34 AM   #9
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i5-750 is the best bang for you buck gaming cpu. Don't forget to overclock.
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Sorry guys, was a bit sleep deprived on my previous post. When I said Phenom II looses to the I5 750 in most benchmarks, I was referring to Deneb and not Thuban. I should have clarified that.
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Hello,

OK, my core 2 e8400 is not cutting it any longer for my gaming needs, so I need to upgrade to something a bit better.
What is your graphics card/ resolution?

I would say Core i5 750 is the best bang for the buck. Overclocked to 4.0ghz, it will be slightly faster than 1055T in games: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpu...-655k-review/6

Of course once you enable 8AA on a single graphics card, you will be GPU limited.
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Old 07-02-2010, 03:36 PM   #12
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arent they coming out with an i5 760 soon. id wait a month for that if you want i5. but really i5 doenst make sense if you can get i7 at mc

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Old 07-02-2010, 08:07 PM   #13
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You can get a q9550 and not have to change sockets or ram at all. It's only $179.99 at microcenter and it's simply drop in and go. Sell your e8400 for $80 and only pay $100 for the upgrade.
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Old 07-02-2010, 09:28 PM   #14
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Well...what do you know, I noticed a lot of people mention Micro Center here on the forums, I never heard of them before, so I googled them, went to their site, and behold, there is a store like 2 miles from where I work .

So I browsed around for a bit, and what do I find? They got i7-930 for.....wait for it... $199!!!!!! That's crazy! Almost a $100 saving compared to new egg, so I'm gonna go there tomorrow and get one, I don't think I'll run into better deal anywhere else no point in waiting.

Now time to hunt for a bargain LGA 1366 motherboard

Thanks for all you responses guys, I'm very excited now!
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Old 07-02-2010, 09:31 PM   #15
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If it's my money i5 750 (or 760 now) will be the best bang/buck on gaming.
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If it's my money i5 750 (or 760 now) will be the best bang/buck on gaming.
Ya. But if you can get a $199 930 at Microcenter, than the 750 is less of a bang/buck CPU.

OP for a motherboard, Gigabyte's GA-X58A-UD3R is awesome:

$195 with Free Shipping: http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=...TX-Motherboard
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Is there something the i5-760 will do that the 750 won't, aside from the increase in CPU multi? It sounds to me like either CPU will be fine if/when overclocking comes into the picture. Maybe the 760 will be binned a little better.
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Ya. But if you can get a $199 930 at Microcenter, than the 750 is less of a bang/buck CPU.

OP for a motherboard, Gigabyte's GA-X58A-UD3R is awesome:

$195 with Free Shipping: http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=...TX-Motherboard
If he has a Microcenter near by ,why not a 199$ unlocked i7 875k?
I did hear there were going for 199$, right?
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If he has a Microcenter near by ,why not a 199$ unlocked i7 875k?

because that deal is over
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Old 07-03-2010, 01:52 AM   #20
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i5 750 is easily the best bang for buck gaming cpu if doing a new build from scratch. with overclocking its also got a lot of staying power to push those future gpu upgrades.
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Guys you realize a Core i5 750 is $190 at Microcenter and Core i7 860 is $230, while Core i7 930 is $200. At these prices, I would not choose the 750.
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Yeah, at $200 you really can't beat the i7 930. Just pair it up with an ASROCK Extreme X58. You don't need 6 gigs of RAM, but you can get it if you want.

They bumped the i7 860 to $230 at Microcenter? Disappointing.
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Old 07-03-2010, 11:17 AM   #23
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what about the Phenom II X2 555 black edition?


that cpu plus ddr2 mobo is $99 at microcenter, same cpu with ddr3 mobo is $99 - $10 rebate @ fry's. Chances of unlocking the extra cores is pretty good, I had success on 3 different occasions. YMMV but if it works you're getting close to i5 equivalent plus the mobo for only $100. Fry's you can return the cpu if it doesn't unlock. Not to mention generally you can OC to 3.6ghz+ easily on air, and with an aftermarket cooler you can hit 4ghz with no problems.

IMO this is the absolute best bang for the buck out there if the cores unlock. take the extra $100 and put it towards your video card.

Fry's Deal:
http://latimes.p2ionline.com/shoppin...=2415261&pop=1 (,-----typo, it says athlon but its phenom)

Microcenter deal:
http://www.microcenter.com/specials/...e=ACT_NON_BYO&

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103846
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That's a crazy-good deal on an x2 555 BE. They retail for $95+ in most online stores. As always, MC and Fry's are great if you've got physical access to their B&M stores.
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How will a 3.6-4ghz o/ced Phenom II X2 555 compare to an i7 930 overclocked in desktop apps, video encoding, and games?
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