Go Back   AnandTech Forums > Social > Off Topic

Forums
· Hardware and Technology
· CPUs and Overclocking
· Motherboards
· Video Cards and Graphics
· Memory and Storage
· Power Supplies
· Cases & Cooling
· SFF, Notebooks, Pre-Built/Barebones PCs
· Networking
· Peripherals
· General Hardware
· Highly Technical
· Computer Help
· Home Theater PCs
· Consumer Electronics
· Digital and Video Cameras
· Mobile Devices & Gadgets
· Audio/Video & Home Theater
· Software
· Software for Windows
· All Things Apple
· *nix Software
· Operating Systems
· Programming
· PC Gaming
· Console Gaming
· Distributed Computing
· Security
· Social
· Off Topic
· Politics and News
· Discussion Club
· Love and Relationships
· The Garage
· Health and Fitness
· Merchandise and Shopping
· For Sale/Trade
· Hot Deals with Free Stuff/Contests
· Black Friday 2013
· Forum Issues
· Technical Forum Issues
· Personal Forum Issues
· Suggestion Box
· Moderator Resources
· Moderator Discussions
   

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 10-22-2006, 05:04 AM   #1
LordSegan
Diamond Member
 
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: California
Posts: 7,649
Default Help: Botulism in old tomato sauce?

So I had some sauce and I think I miscalculated and ate it even though I now realize the jar had been opened about 6 weeks ago.

Since then it's been in the fridge at probably ~38-40 F.

I put the sauce on the stove at pretty high heat for prolly 6-7 min and it was bubbling really good before I ate it.

However, I feel a little sick right now in my stomach.



Edit: I feel Ok now. False alarm.
__________________
i7 860 @ 3.9ghz | Gigabyte P55A-UD3 | ASUS GTX 780 @1050 | 32GB Gskill Ram | 180GB Force GT SSD | 1TB WD Black | Corsair AX750 PSU | DeepSilence 1 | Win7 64bit |

Nikon D3. Nikkor 14-24 FX, Nikkor 24-70mm, 24-120mm G, 70-300mm, 50mm f1.8. Tokina 11-16mm f2.8. SB-600 flash.
LordSegan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2006, 05:57 AM   #2
George P Burdell
Lifer
 
George P Burdell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 11,171
Default Help: Botulism in old tomato sauce?

Drink some Coca Cola
George P Burdell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2006, 06:11 AM   #3
compuwiz1
Admin Emeritus
Elite Member
 
compuwiz1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Posts: 23,646
Default Help: Botulism in old tomato sauce?

Are you still with us?
I believe God takes care of idiots who don't pay attn to their food ex dates.
compuwiz1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2006, 07:34 AM   #4
FoBoT
Super Moderator
 
FoBoT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Holden MO
Posts: 63,088
Default Help: Botulism in old tomato sauce?

Botulism only grows anaerobically, before you open it
you'll be fine, well, if you are sick, it isn't Botulism anyway
__________________
“Sometimes the questions are complicated and the answers are simple.”
― Dr. Seuss
FoBoT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2006, 07:35 AM   #5
sswingle
Diamond Member
 
sswingle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Posts: 7,019
Default Help: Botulism in old tomato sauce?

Botulism happens when you can something. Does NOT happen to something thats open in the fridge. Worst that can happen in there is mold, which I would hope you noticed when you opened it up and poured it out. If there was no mold, then it was fine.
sswingle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2006, 07:36 AM   #6
compuwiz1
Admin Emeritus
Elite Member
 
compuwiz1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Posts: 23,646
Default Help: Botulism in old tomato sauce?

QFT
compuwiz1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2006, 07:37 AM   #7
StevenYoo
Diamond Member
 
StevenYoo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 8,634
Default Help: Botulism in old tomato sauce?

Quote:
Originally posted by: FoBoT
Botulism only grows anaerobically, before you open it
you'll be fine, well, if you are sick, it isn't Botulism anyway
yeah, that's true.

you'd know if it were botulism by the bulging can.

and food poisoning doesn't usually set in until around 6 hours or so, post-ingestion
__________________
eBay
Heatware
StevenYoo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2006, 07:40 AM   #8
compuwiz1
Admin Emeritus
Elite Member
 
compuwiz1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Posts: 23,646
Default Help: Botulism in old tomato sauce?

Quote:
Originally posted by: StevenYoo
Quote:
Originally posted by: FoBoT
Botulism only grows anaerobically, before you open it
you'll be fine, well, if you are sick, it isn't Botulism anyway
yeah, that's true.

you'd know if it were botulism by the bulging can.

and food poisoning doesn't usually set in until around 6 hours or so, post-ingestion
Women have always told me that bulging cans are bad, and bulging jeans are good. :shocked:

compuwiz1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2006, 12:44 PM   #9
altonb1
Diamond Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 6,433
Default Help: Botulism in old tomato sauce?

You are probably feeling sick because you expect to feel sick. In other words, it's probably in your head.

On the other hand, dibs on your POST COUNT if I can add them to mine....
__________________
BlancoNino
Where's a good place to live?

AnandTech Moderator
Any place that doesn't have internet.
=======
Need a Moola invite? Click homepage link in my profile.
=======
$10 off at shoebuy.com
altonb1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2006, 12:45 PM   #10
minendo
Administrator
Elite Member
 
minendo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 35,432
Default Help: Botulism in old tomato sauce?

Quote:
Originally posted by: StevenYoo
Quote:
Originally posted by: FoBoT
Botulism only grows anaerobically, before you open it
you'll be fine, well, if you are sick, it isn't Botulism anyway
yeah, that's true.

you'd know if it were botulism by the bulging can.

and food poisoning doesn't usually set in until around 6 hours or so, post-ingestion
Not necessarily true. It all depends on the causative agent. Sometimes food poisoning can occur within 15 minutes of consumption.
__________________
SouthPlainsEats
minendo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2006, 12:54 PM   #11
eplebnista
Lifer
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: NW Alabama
Posts: 23,765
Default Help: Botulism in old tomato sauce?

Quote:
Originally posted by: StevenYoo
Quote:
Originally posted by: FoBoT
Botulism only grows anaerobically, before you open it
you'll be fine, well, if you are sick, it isn't Botulism anyway
yeah, that's true.

you'd know if it were botulism by the bulging can.

and food poisoning doesn't usually set in until around 6 hours or so, post-ingestion
I had a can of tuna that was bulging once and didn't even think about opening it, in the trash it went.
__________________
Beer, Cool, Gift, Rose, ThumbsUp
eplebnista is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2006, 01:07 PM   #12
nutxo
Diamond Member
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 5,780
Default Help: Botulism in old tomato sauce?

Quote:
Originally posted by: StevenYoo
Quote:
Originally posted by: FoBoT
Botulism only grows anaerobically, before you open it
you'll be fine, well, if you are sick, it isn't Botulism anyway
yeah, that's true.

you'd know if it were botulism by the bulging can.

and food poisoning doesn't usually set in until around 6 hours or so, post-ingestion
Unless it were molasses. From what I understand botulism can affect you a hell of a lot faster than 6 hours.

__________________
nutxo@msn.com
nutxo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2006, 01:19 PM   #13
MichaelD
Lifer
 
MichaelD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Halfway There
Posts: 31,494
Default Help: Botulism in old tomato sauce?

Quote:
Originally posted by: nutxo
Quote:
Originally posted by: StevenYoo
Quote:
Originally posted by: FoBoT
Botulism only grows anaerobically, before you open it
you'll be fine, well, if you are sick, it isn't Botulism anyway
yeah, that's true.

you'd know if it were botulism by the bulging can.

and food poisoning doesn't usually set in until around 6 hours or so, post-ingestion
Unless it were molasses. From what I understand botulism can affect you a hell of a lot faster than 6 hours.
Does molasses make the botulism move slower b/c of how thick it is?

MichaelD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2006, 01:38 PM   #14
nutxo
Diamond Member
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 5,780
Default Help: Botulism in old tomato sauce?

Quote:
Originally posted by: MichaelD
Quote:
Originally posted by: nutxo
Quote:
Originally posted by: StevenYoo
Quote:
Originally posted by: FoBoT
Botulism only grows anaerobically, before you open it
you'll be fine, well, if you are sick, it isn't Botulism anyway
yeah, that's true.

you'd know if it were botulism by the bulging can.

and food poisoning doesn't usually set in until around 6 hours or so, post-ingestion
Unless it were molasses. From what I understand botulism can affect you a hell of a lot faster than 6 hours.
Does molasses make the botulism move slower b/c of how thick it is?
molasses makes cans bulge :retard;

__________________
nutxo@msn.com
nutxo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2006, 01:41 PM   #15
MichaelD
Lifer
 
MichaelD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Halfway There
Posts: 31,494
Default Help: Botulism in old tomato sauce?

Quote:
Originally posted by: nutxo
Quote:
Originally posted by: MichaelD
Quote:
Originally posted by: nutxo
Quote:
Originally posted by: StevenYoo
Quote:
Originally posted by: FoBoT
Botulism only grows anaerobically, before you open it
you'll be fine, well, if you are sick, it isn't Botulism anyway
yeah, that's true.

you'd know if it were botulism by the bulging can.

and food poisoning doesn't usually set in until around 6 hours or so, post-ingestion
Unless it were molasses. From what I understand botulism can affect you a hell of a lot faster than 6 hours.
Does molasses make the botulism move slower b/c of how thick it is?
molasses makes cans bulge :retard;

If that's true, how come molasses stored in JARS doesn't explode? HUH?
MichaelD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2006, 02:14 PM   #16
LordSegan
Diamond Member
 
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: California
Posts: 7,649
Default Help: Botulism in old tomato sauce?

I'm still alive and seemingly in good health.
__________________
i7 860 @ 3.9ghz | Gigabyte P55A-UD3 | ASUS GTX 780 @1050 | 32GB Gskill Ram | 180GB Force GT SSD | 1TB WD Black | Corsair AX750 PSU | DeepSilence 1 | Win7 64bit |

Nikon D3. Nikkor 14-24 FX, Nikkor 24-70mm, 24-120mm G, 70-300mm, 50mm f1.8. Tokina 11-16mm f2.8. SB-600 flash.
LordSegan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2006, 02:16 PM   #17
MichaelD
Lifer
 
MichaelD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Halfway There
Posts: 31,494
Default Help: Botulism in old tomato sauce?

Quote:
Originally posted by: LordSegan
I'm still alive and seemingly in good health.
How ill did you get?
MichaelD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2006, 02:19 PM   #18
LordSegan
Diamond Member
 
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: California
Posts: 7,649
Default Help: Botulism in old tomato sauce?

Quote:
Originally posted by: MichaelD
Quote:
Originally posted by: LordSegan
I'm still alive and seemingly in good health.
How ill did you get?
I felt something wrong in my abdomen.. kind of like I was going to puke but it also made me feel slightly tight in my chest so I was worried it was affecting my muscles. I am a nervous person though, so I bet a lot of it was in my head.. so to speak.
__________________
i7 860 @ 3.9ghz | Gigabyte P55A-UD3 | ASUS GTX 780 @1050 | 32GB Gskill Ram | 180GB Force GT SSD | 1TB WD Black | Corsair AX750 PSU | DeepSilence 1 | Win7 64bit |

Nikon D3. Nikkor 14-24 FX, Nikkor 24-70mm, 24-120mm G, 70-300mm, 50mm f1.8. Tokina 11-16mm f2.8. SB-600 flash.
LordSegan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2006, 02:26 PM   #19
nutxo
Diamond Member
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 5,780
Default Help: Botulism in old tomato sauce?

Quote:
Originally posted by: MichaelD
Quote:
Originally posted by: nutxo
Quote:
Originally posted by: MichaelD
Quote:
Originally posted by: nutxo
Quote:
Originally posted by: StevenYoo
Quote:
Originally posted by: FoBoT
Botulism only grows anaerobically, before you open it
you'll be fine, well, if you are sick, it isn't Botulism anyway
yeah, that's true.

you'd know if it were botulism by the bulging can.

and food poisoning doesn't usually set in until around 6 hours or so, post-ingestion
Unless it were molasses. From what I understand botulism can affect you a hell of a lot faster than 6 hours.
Does molasses make the botulism move slower b/c of how thick it is?
molasses makes cans bulge :retard;

If that's true, how come molasses stored in JARS doesn't explode? HUH?

Google is your friend. The pressure it takes to bulge a can is considerably less than it would take to make a jar explode.

No wonder your post count is so high. Do you frequently post without thinking or doing a search?
__________________
nutxo@msn.com
nutxo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2006, 02:29 PM   #20
MichaelD
Lifer
 
MichaelD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Halfway There
Posts: 31,494
Default Help: Botulism in old tomato sauce?

Quote:
Originally posted by: LordSegan
Quote:
Originally posted by: MichaelD
Quote:
Originally posted by: LordSegan
I'm still alive and seemingly in good health.
How ill did you get?
I felt something wrong in my abdomen.. kind of like I was going to puke but it also made me feel slightly tight in my chest so I was worried it was affecting my muscles. I am a nervous person though, so I bet a lot of it was in my head.. so to speak.
The worst food poisoning I ever got was three years ago. I got it from a $.79 frozen TV dinner...it was on sale.

About 30 minutes after ingestion, I felt uncontrollably sleepy...like I'd been drugged or something. I went to bed. I woke up a few hours later shaking...shaking so uncontrollably, it was like something out of The Exorcist.

My legs had this shooting pain down both of them and my stomach was clenching and unclenching like when you puke, except I was not puking...yet. I was sweating profusely and felt so cold at the same time.

I don't remember waking up again and getting to the bathroom, but apparently I did b/c that's where I woke up. On the floor. Lying in my own puke, with puke all over the toilet.

After the nausea was over, it started coming out of the other end for the next two days. I lost almost 10 pounds.

To this day, I have NO IDEA what the hell happened to me. I don't wish that on my worst enemy.
MichaelD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2006, 02:31 PM   #21
MichaelD
Lifer
 
MichaelD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Halfway There
Posts: 31,494
Default Help: Botulism in old tomato sauce?

Quote:
Originally posted by: nutxo
Quote:
Originally posted by: MichaelD
Quote:
Originally posted by: nutxo
Quote:
Originally posted by: MichaelD
Quote:
Originally posted by: nutxo
Quote:
Originally posted by: StevenYoo
Quote:
Originally posted by: FoBoT
Botulism only grows anaerobically, before you open it
you'll be fine, well, if you are sick, it isn't Botulism anyway
yeah, that's true.

you'd know if it were botulism by the bulging can.

and food poisoning doesn't usually set in until around 6 hours or so, post-ingestion
Unless it were molasses. From what I understand botulism can affect you a hell of a lot faster than 6 hours.
Does molasses make the botulism move slower b/c of how thick it is?
molasses makes cans bulge :retard;

If that's true, how come molasses stored in JARS doesn't explode? HUH?

Google is your friend. The pressure it takes to bulge a can is considerably less than it would take to make a jar explode.

No wonder your post count is so high. Do you frequently post without thinking or doing a search?
Yes, I do. I'm too busy with the real world to say "Wow. I wonder how many toothpicks it would take to build a bridge to the sun...let me Google." You, apparently, have lots of free time. Please continue to work out all of life's little mysteries for me. I appreciate it. Thanks!
MichaelD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2006, 02:38 PM   #22
LordSegan
Diamond Member
 
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: California
Posts: 7,649
Default Help: Botulism in old tomato sauce?

Quote:
Originally posted by: MichaelD
Quote:
Originally posted by: LordSegan
Quote:
Originally posted by: MichaelD
Quote:
Originally posted by: LordSegan
I'm still alive and seemingly in good health.
How ill did you get?
I felt something wrong in my abdomen.. kind of like I was going to puke but it also made me feel slightly tight in my chest so I was worried it was affecting my muscles. I am a nervous person though, so I bet a lot of it was in my head.. so to speak.
The worst food poisoning I ever got was three years ago. I got it from a $.79 frozen TV dinner...it was on sale.
....
To this day, I have NO IDEA what the hell happened to me. I don't wish that on my worst enemy.
OMFG, I would have called 911 within about 10 seconds.
__________________
i7 860 @ 3.9ghz | Gigabyte P55A-UD3 | ASUS GTX 780 @1050 | 32GB Gskill Ram | 180GB Force GT SSD | 1TB WD Black | Corsair AX750 PSU | DeepSilence 1 | Win7 64bit |

Nikon D3. Nikkor 14-24 FX, Nikkor 24-70mm, 24-120mm G, 70-300mm, 50mm f1.8. Tokina 11-16mm f2.8. SB-600 flash.
LordSegan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2006, 02:39 PM   #23
MichaelD
Lifer
 
MichaelD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Halfway There
Posts: 31,494
Default Help: Botulism in old tomato sauce?

I honestly was going to; I was scared! But I guess I passed out. I haven't eaten a TV dinner since then.
MichaelD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2006, 02:44 PM   #24
minendo
Administrator
Elite Member
 
minendo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 35,432
Default Help: Botulism in old tomato sauce?

Quote:
Originally posted by: MichaelD
I honestly was going to; I was scared! But I guess I passed out. I haven't eaten a TV dinner since then.
How long were you sick for? Which food poisoning did you get?

Years ago I got Salmonella from Pizza Hut as determined by the CDC. I was deathly ill for 3 weeks where I laid on the couch. Only time I moved was to puke/sh!t my brains out.
__________________
SouthPlainsEats
minendo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2006, 02:49 PM   #25
MichaelD
Lifer
 
MichaelD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Halfway There
Posts: 31,494
Default Help: Botulism in old tomato sauce?

Quote:
Originally posted by: minendo
Quote:
Originally posted by: MichaelD
I honestly was going to; I was scared! But I guess I passed out. I haven't eaten a TV dinner since then.
How long were you sick for? Which food poisoning did you get?

Years ago I got Salmonella from Pizza Hut as determined by the CDC. I was deathly ill for 3 weeks where I laid on the couch. Only time I moved was to puke/sh!t my brains out.
I was ill for a total of three days. The first 24-some odd hours were spent passed out in bed and the bathroom floor. After that, I couldn't leave the house b/c I needed to be within running distance of the toilet.

I have no idea "which" food poisoning I got...I've had food poisoning many times. From fish, from chicken, from whatever...but I had never had anything like that before, or since, thank GOD.
MichaelD is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:35 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.