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Old 08-26-2005, 01:15 PM   #1
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Old 08-26-2005, 01:16 PM   #2
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That fluid is guaranteed to make your car pass smog out of it's exhaust.
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Old 08-26-2005, 01:16 PM   #3
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Miracle fluids? HA!!

Well, sometimes they help depending on what the problem is. Different cures for different causes
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Old 08-26-2005, 01:16 PM   #4
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get your tank down to like 1/8 full, and dump a lot of dry gas/alcohol in. it will run pretty clean.
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Old 08-26-2005, 01:23 PM   #5
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Did your car not pass smog?

Why would you even consider wasting your money on this crap unless you failed a smog test.
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Old 08-26-2005, 01:30 PM   #6
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Did your car not pass smog?

Why would you even consider wasting your money on this crap unless you failed a smog test.
Because failing as a gross poluter is the suck!
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Old 08-26-2005, 01:32 PM   #7
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So who do I bitch at if it fails anyway?
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Old 08-26-2005, 01:34 PM   #8
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Carefull , you can fool around and ruin your catalitic converter .
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Old 08-26-2005, 01:35 PM   #9
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So who do I bitch at if it fails anyway?
Honestly, most likely yourself for not maintaining it. This is the conclusion I've reached. I remember a couple years ago my dad said his truck ('89 Toyota) barely passed. Between then and now I gave it a full tune up. He got it tested a few weeks ago and was amazed at how easily it passed.

Unless its something major like blown rings or something it usually doesn't take much to pass smog.
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Old 08-26-2005, 01:37 PM   #10
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Works as well as my headlight fluid and wifi extender spray.
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Old 08-26-2005, 08:48 PM   #11
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Well, over at Toyotanation, at least one person gave it a real testimonial........(we don't get NEFs over there like here......stab, stab!)



Then if you look *up* the directory for that particular item, you can see about a ZILLION fuel-system cleaners available. Everybody swear this works, that works, etc. etc. etc.


Then you have the folks who swear that there's no such thing as a *clogged* fuel injector and gasoline is enough of a solvent in and of itself to clean a fuel injector and the Techron, B12, etc. etc. are all SHENS and there ain't no reason to do anything other put gas in your tank!!!


?????????????SHENS????????????????
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Old 08-26-2005, 08:51 PM   #12
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i hope your 17 question marks give you cancer.

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Old 08-26-2005, 08:52 PM   #13
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IIRC, some of the "smog pass" stuff is little more than denatured ethanol in a bottle.
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Did your car not pass smog?

Why would you even consider wasting your money on this crap unless you failed a smog test.
Because failing as a gross poluter is the suck!
What the hell difference does it make?
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Old 08-26-2005, 09:47 PM   #15
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how about actually fixing the problem
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Old 08-26-2005, 09:58 PM   #16
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Well, over at Toyotanation, at least one person gave it a real testimonial........(we don't get NEFs over there like here......stab, stab!)



Then if you look *up* the directory for that particular item, you can see about a ZILLION fuel-system cleaners available. Everybody swear this works, that works, etc. etc. etc.


Then you have the folks who swear that there's no such thing as a *clogged* fuel injector and gasoline is enough of a solvent in and of itself to clean a fuel injector and the Techron, B12, etc. etc. are all SHENS and there ain't no reason to do anything other put gas in your tank!!!


?????????????SHENS????????????????
If you use high quality fuel there's plenty of solvents in it. What manufacturer actually says to use fuel system cleaners as a part of a regular maintainence? I'll trust what the person designing the cars tells me, not someone out to make a quick buck.
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So who do I bitch at if it fails anyway?
Honestly, most likely yourself for not maintaining it. This is the conclusion I've reached. I remember a couple years ago my dad said his truck ('89 Toyota) barely passed. Between then and now I gave it a full tune up. He got it tested a few weeks ago and was amazed at how easily it passed.

Unless its something major like blown rings or something it usually doesn't take much to pass smog.
Heh. Our '88 3/4 ton van REFUSES to pass emissions tests. Ever. Under any circumstances. The only part that isn't in perfect working order is the transmission - and that's only in first gear and it only manifests itself under heavy load (which it is not under during testing). There was a RAGING ENORMOUS hole in the exhaust. We fixed that. It proceeded to fail the test EVEN WORSE. The test parameters are geared towards small cars with small displacement engines. The few older large vehicles still on the road (that were never designed with these tests in mind) have a hell of a time passing (and that's why there are test waivers). Oh, and the part of the test that it fails? Carbon dioxide. You know, the HARMLESS part.
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Older carborated engines have a hard time. Our '88 Olds passed this year on the first try but most years it takes a lot of work. When it passes, it passes with extremely low emissions. But one belch during the test and it's toast. Our '86 Toyota truck (also carborated) barely passes every year, even after being tuned to pass.
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So who do I bitch at if it fails anyway?
Honestly, most likely yourself for not maintaining it. This is the conclusion I've reached. I remember a couple years ago my dad said his truck ('89 Toyota) barely passed. Between then and now I gave it a full tune up. He got it tested a few weeks ago and was amazed at how easily it passed.

Unless its something major like blown rings or something it usually doesn't take much to pass smog.
Heh. Our '88 3/4 ton van REFUSES to pass emissions tests. Ever. Under any circumstances. The only part that isn't in perfect working order is the transmission - and that's only in first gear and it only manifests itself under heavy load (which it is not under during testing). There was a RAGING ENORMOUS hole in the exhaust. We fixed that. It proceeded to fail the test EVEN WORSE. The test parameters are geared towards small cars with small displacement engines. The few older large vehicles still on the road (that were never designed with these tests in mind) have a hell of a time passing (and that's why there are test waivers). Oh, and the part of the test that it fails? Carbon dioxide. You know, the HARMLESS part.
Uh, you realize different cars have to pass under different parameters right? Its not universal based on one set of numbers. If anything the older cars have more generous numbers and newers ones more stringent.
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So who do I bitch at if it fails anyway?
Honestly, most likely yourself for not maintaining it. This is the conclusion I've reached. I remember a couple years ago my dad said his truck ('89 Toyota) barely passed. Between then and now I gave it a full tune up. He got it tested a few weeks ago and was amazed at how easily it passed.

Unless its something major like blown rings or something it usually doesn't take much to pass smog.
Heh. Our '88 3/4 ton van REFUSES to pass emissions tests. Ever. Under any circumstances. The only part that isn't in perfect working order is the transmission - and that's only in first gear and it only manifests itself under heavy load (which it is not under during testing). There was a RAGING ENORMOUS hole in the exhaust. We fixed that. It proceeded to fail the test EVEN WORSE. The test parameters are geared towards small cars with small displacement engines. The few older large vehicles still on the road (that were never designed with these tests in mind) have a hell of a time passing (and that's why there are test waivers). Oh, and the part of the test that it fails? Carbon dioxide. You know, the HARMLESS part.
Uh, you realize different cars have to pass under different parameters right? Its not universal based on one set of numbers. If anything the older cars have more generous numbers and newers ones more stringent.
Then someone at the Westminster test site is a moron - the same "TARGET" numbers are on the test slips for that van as a teeny little '98 Escort ZX2. I certainly wouldn't put it past them.
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So who do I bitch at if it fails anyway?
Honestly, most likely yourself for not maintaining it. This is the conclusion I've reached. I remember a couple years ago my dad said his truck ('89 Toyota) barely passed. Between then and now I gave it a full tune up. He got it tested a few weeks ago and was amazed at how easily it passed.

Unless its something major like blown rings or something it usually doesn't take much to pass smog.
Heh. Our '88 3/4 ton van REFUSES to pass emissions tests. Ever. Under any circumstances. The only part that isn't in perfect working order is the transmission - and that's only in first gear and it only manifests itself under heavy load (which it is not under during testing). There was a RAGING ENORMOUS hole in the exhaust. We fixed that. It proceeded to fail the test EVEN WORSE. The test parameters are geared towards small cars with small displacement engines. The few older large vehicles still on the road (that were never designed with these tests in mind) have a hell of a time passing (and that's why there are test waivers). Oh, and the part of the test that it fails? Carbon dioxide. You know, the HARMLESS part.
Uh, you realize different cars have to pass under different parameters right? Its not universal based on one set of numbers. If anything the older cars have more generous numbers and newers ones more stringent.
Sort of. Cars are required to perform according to the specs as if new. I had a '76 Suburban that always passed even though it chucked tar out the tailpipe everytime I started it. But for the '80's cars it is harder because they were fairly clean running when new so they have to meet that same standard even when twenty years old.

EDIT: Oops, I stand corrected. The requirements for the Toyota and the Olds are the same even though the Olds is a 5L and the Toyota is a 2.4L.

Here are the standards I live under:

CO loaded/idle: 1.20%
Hydrocarbons, loaded/idle: 220 ppm


The Olds will put out more exhaust of course so total mass of allowed pollutants will be higher than for the smaller Toyota.
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Old 08-26-2005, 11:27 PM   #22
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Ahhhhh........just like the good ole' days!!!!

My original intent was to see if there's actually anything good at cleaning the throttle body outside of seriously dismantling it and doing a *manual* cleaning.

In hindsight, I don't even know that it's worth it.

This particular stuff claimed to do a wonder on carbon deposits by somebody's recommendation (as do other formulas) but since it's prolly shens and since I had my truck's throttle body thoroughly cleaned by the dealer and I couldn't tell a snap of difference, then I don't know that any of this sh*t really matters.

I'll just drive my f*n vehicles and when they're done, I'll blow 'em up with a 3/4 stick in the gas tank!

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In Ohio, they've already told us they are discontinuing emissions tests. Why the hell did I have to get one last week then? Load of crap.
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