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Old 04-08-2005, 11:35 PM   #1
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the yankees like to take FA pitchers from the braves. too bad pitching coach on the yankees is on the same level as Mazzone.

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Old 04-08-2005, 11:41 PM   #2
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Is he doing good or something?

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Old 04-09-2005, 12:04 AM   #3
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he was amazing for the braves last year, this year, start #1, he got bombed big time.

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Old 04-09-2005, 12:06 AM   #4
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It's just one game, Mariano Rivera isn't pitching well, and John Smoltz got bombed as well. After 5 starts if Wright gets consistently bombed then I would be worried.
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Old 04-09-2005, 12:08 AM   #5
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It's just one game, Mariano Rivera isn't pitching well, and John Smoltz got bombed as well. After 5 starts if Wright gets consistently bombed then I would be worried.
actually, give Wrights history, i would say that this is the norm not the aberation.

the aberation is how he pitched under mazzone.
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Old 04-09-2005, 07:59 AM   #6
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I guess it shows that he is this generations pitching master.Examples: Kevin Millwood wins 17 games here, goes to Philly and wins what,10-12 games.Banished to Cleveland. Tommy Glavine: Cy Youngs, World Series hero,all around Hall of Famer, goes to the Mets and wins 10 games a year....for 10 mill a season. On the flip side, Chris Hammond comes here after sitting out a season and does phenomenal. Goes to Yankees and pitches, what, a half season? Now you can sit back and watch what the Yankees are going to do when Jaret Wright loses four or five in a row(Javier Vazquez,anyone? ). I honestly like this guy and I am pulling for him beyond belief. I really thought he was dynamite here last year and I cannot blame him for going after the big bucks. Hell, he's had two chances now and I think he wants the security of a nice long term deal. Who could blame him? The Braves could only pay him so much, and I think they were afraid to give him a long term deal.Again,with his history, you really cannot blame them.But hey, the Yankees are more than willing to pay for his services

I think that John Thomson and Mike Hampton are really going to tear it up this year. They have had a full year under Leo and judging on how these two notoriously slow starters have begun this season, its no wonder a lot of people are picking the Braves to win again(Several have even mentioned the World Series, but I dont think that far ahead with this team).


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Old 04-09-2005, 08:05 AM   #7
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I think the yankees arethe ONLY ones who didnt think this would happen
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I guess it shows that he is this generations pitching master.Examples: Kevin Millwood wins 17 games here, goes to Philly and wins what,10-12 games.Banished to Cleveland. Tommy Glavine: Cy Youngs, World Series hero,all around Hall of Famer, goes to the Mets and wins 10 games a year....for 10 mill a season. On the flip side, Chris Hammond comes here after sitting out a season and does phenomenal. Goes to Yankees and pitches, what, a half season? Now you can sit back and watch what the Yankees are going to do when Jaret Wright loses four or five in a row(Javier Vazquez,anyone? ). I honestly like this guy and I am pulling for him beyond belief. I really thought he was dynamite here last year and I cannot blame him for going after the big bucks. Hell, he's had two chances now and I think he wants the security of a nice long term deal. Who could blame him? The Braves could only pay him so much, and I think they were afraid to give him a long term deal.Again,with his history, you really cannot blame them.But hey, the Yankees are more than willing to pay for his services

I think that John Thomson and Mike Hampton are really going to tear it up this year. They have had a full year under Leo and judging on how these two notoriously slow starters have begun this season, its no wonder a lot of people are picking the Braves to win again(Several have even mentioned the World Series, but I dont think that far ahead with this team).


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exactly, chris hammond was the other one i was thinking of when i posted this thread but couldn't remember.

yankees screwed up, for the money they gave wright they could have resigned the guy who was probably their best pitcher last season (again the name slips my mind).

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Old 04-10-2005, 01:08 AM   #9
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The Mazzone Effect So Teams should be wary of free agent pitchers who pitched well for the Braves as Mazzone has a big effect.
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jon lieber u mean?
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jon lieber u mean?
ya, Lieber, wtf were the yankees thinking letting lieber go and then giving that money to wright?
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Leo Mazzone is probably the only person affiliated with the Braves that I like, despite the fact that he is a ND fan.
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Old 04-24-2005, 08:57 AM   #13
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hmm, wright vs lieber.

what a HUGE miscalculation by the yankees. if they had kept lieber he would probably have been their #2 starter.
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hmm, wright vs lieber.

what a HUGE miscalculation by the yankees. if they had kept lieber he would probably have been their #2 starter.


Well, now Wright has probably torn his shoulder apart and the Yankees are kicking themselves for getting rid of Lieber( 4-0,2.73 era) The Yankees are in for a big surprise this year. By banking on these pitchers, they have left themselves wide to all sorts of second guessing. I know that means nothing in the real world, but in King George's madhouse, it means everything.

I hate to say this, but I kinda thought Jaret Wright would fall apart this year. Sucks, but at least he is now set financially for the rest of his life.


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hmm, wright vs lieber.

what a HUGE miscalculation by the yankees. if they had kept lieber he would probably have been their #2 starter.


Well, now Wright has probably torn his shoulder apart and the Yankees are kicking themselves for getting rid of Lieber( 4-0,2.73 era) The Yankees are in for a big surprise this year. By banking on these pitchers, they have left themselves wide to all sorts of second guessing. I know that means nothing in the real world, but in King George's madhouse, it means everything.

I hate to say this, but I kinda thought Jaret Wright would fall apart this year. Sucks, but at least he is now set financially for the rest of his life.


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wright said in an interview last year that he was finally pitching and not throwing. that he was learning that he didn't have to throw a 97 mph heater every pitch. without Mazzone's guidance, i think he went back to his old ways and just threw his arm out.

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hmm, wright vs lieber.

what a HUGE miscalculation by the yankees. if they had kept lieber he would probably have been their #2 starter.


Well, now Wright has probably torn his shoulder apart and the Yankees are kicking themselves for getting rid of Lieber( 4-0,2.73 era) The Yankees are in for a big surprise this year. By banking on these pitchers, they have left themselves wide to all sorts of second guessing. I know that means nothing in the real world, but in King George's madhouse, it means everything.

I hate to say this, but I kinda thought Jaret Wright would fall apart this year. Sucks, but at least he is now set financially for the rest of his life.


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wright said in an interview last year that he was finally pitching and not throwing. that he was learning that he didn't have to throw a 97 mph heater every pitch. without Mazzone's guidance, i think he went back to his old ways and just threw his arm out.
Wright sucks. My friends and I were calling this (bad pitching, DL) back in January.
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hmm, wright vs lieber.

what a HUGE miscalculation by the yankees. if they had kept lieber he would probably have been their #2 starter.
While I agree the Yankees should have kept Lieber, there are two things to note here:
1. They didn't think Lieber would get offered what he did.
2. Liebers NL numbers do not necessarily translate into what he'd have in the NL. NL numbers for pitchers don't directly indicate as to how they'll pitch in the AL.
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