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Old 10-26-2004, 03:36 PM   #1
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If I got a new car in So Cal for $18,500 from an Acura dealer, how much should TTL, Destination, etc, cost?

Can I get it for $20k OTD?

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Old 10-26-2004, 03:38 PM   #2
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Just sales tax is going to take you close to 20K, so Closer to 21K would be my guess
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Old 10-26-2004, 03:39 PM   #3
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My last truck had a sticker price of $25,399. I got it OTD for $20,000. You should be a car marked at $18,500 for no greater than $18,500 OTD. That's really around a 9%-11% discount right there with taxes, title, etc. I'd start with $17,500 OTD, hope for $18k but if you really like the vehicle be glad at $18,500.
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Old 10-26-2004, 03:40 PM   #4
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Varies by state, duh!
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Old 10-26-2004, 03:42 PM   #5
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I bought my SUV brand new a few years ago:

Cost of SUV ($50 over dealer cost) + sale tax + license + registration.

That's it. Don't let the dealer add bogus items such as paint protection and seal, document fees, blah blah.
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Old 10-26-2004, 03:44 PM   #6
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I bought my SUV brand new a few years ago:

Cost of SUV ($50 over dealer cost) + sale tax + license + registration.

That's it. Don't let the dealer add bogus items such as paint protection and seal, document fees, blah blah.
Isn't there a $500 destination fee also?
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Varies by state, duh!
Man I said, SO CAL!
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Old 10-26-2004, 04:07 PM   #8
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My last truck had a sticker price of $25,399. I got it OTD for $20,000. You should be a car marked at $18,500 for no greater than $18,500 OTD. That's really around a 9%-11% discount right there with taxes, title, etc. I'd start with $17,500 OTD, hope for $18k but if you really like the vehicle be glad at $18,500.
so you got more than a 25% discount on a new truck? that's such bull i shouldn't even have to touch it.


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Old 10-26-2004, 04:09 PM   #9
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My last truck had a sticker price of $25,399. I got it OTD for $20,000. You should be a car marked at $18,500 for no greater than $18,500 OTD. That's really around a 9%-11% discount right there with taxes, title, etc. I'd start with $17,500 OTD, hope for $18k but if you really like the vehicle be glad at $18,500.
so you got more than a 25% discount on a new truck? that's such bull i shouldn't even have to touch it.


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Old 10-26-2004, 04:15 PM   #10
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The sticker price on my truck was $23,000 and I got it for $14,500; $15,700 OTD. 2003 Chevrolet 1500 Silverado in 2002, a few weeks after they came out. Beat that. I was in and made a deal in less than 30 minutes.
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Old 10-26-2004, 04:21 PM   #11
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Ya, I'm lying on on Internet forum about my truck deal so all the other posters will think I"m the king of negotiating. :roll:
i've seen much worse on ATOT, so i wouldn't be surprised. guys pretending to be girls, someone pretending to die, etc.

but you're obviously lying, so i have no idea what your eyeroll is for.


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Old 10-26-2004, 04:29 PM   #12
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Ya, I'm lying on on Internet forum about my truck deal so all the other posters will think I"m the king of negotiating. :roll:
i've seen much worse on ATOT, so i wouldn't be surprised. guys pretending to be girls, someone pretending to die, etc.

but you're obviously lying, so i have no idea what your eyeroll is for.


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so Winchester is a liar too? that's makes two of us on the Internet lying about our car deals.....it's an epidemic!!!! RUN!!!
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I have my original paperwork for you fellas

Dont forget to ask about the 2.5% dealership incentive to be deducted.
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I have my original paperwork for you fellas

Dont forget to ask about the 2.5% dealership incentive to be deducted.
I believe you man, there is a HUGE markup on these vehicles and most of these sales guys are willing to go pretty much anything to sell a vehicle and WILL give you good deals if you are smart about it. I guess NEOone just thinks he has to pay what the dealers' put on the window, which is fine. Somebody has to pay full price so we can get deals.

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so Winchester is a liar too? that's makes two of us on the Internet lying about our car deals.....it's an epidemic!!!! RUN!!!
two explanations:
your dealer is smoke some crack and inflating prices by marking up the cars beyond msrp
you're buying 2 yr old cars that were never owned purchased

i don't care how much d1ck you suck, you're not going to get more than 25% off a new car. and winchester w/ more than 35% off? gimme a fvcking break. these are NEW cars, correct? as in, never been driven before lest a few miles for test drives?


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Old 10-26-2004, 04:45 PM   #16
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He's not lying. The biggest con in the world is the price you pay for a new car.

In return for a 30-50% markup on the price, you get the exquisite privelege of driving a brand new, virgin vehicle off of the dealers lot...





only to have it devalue that same 30 to 50% as soon as you hit the street (since it's no longer "new"). Ever heard of being "upside down" in your loan? That's where the value of the car is LESS than what you owe on the note... and it usually takes at least 2 years for the principle portion of your payments to catch up.

Kudos to Winchester and TheNinja for getting a more reasonable deal.

Even though I can afford them, I don't buy new cars. I always buy 1 or 2 year old vehicles... at the real value of the vehicle.

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Everyone here who's clicked on "hot deals" should already know this, but I'll repeat it anyway

Retail is for suckers.
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I have my original paperwork for you fellas

Dont forget to ask about the 2.5% dealership incentive to be deducted.
I believe you man, there is a HUGE markup on these vehicles and most of these sales guys are willing to go pretty much anything to sell a vehicle and WILL give you good deals if you are smart about it. I guess NEOone just thinks he has to pay what the dealers' put on the window, which is fine. Somebody has to pay full price so we can get deals.
well see, now we're getting somewhere. there's a difference between paying 25% off dealer markup, and paying 25% off msrp.

i don't pay full price. i just do my research and find the invoice price. i'll also look into any dealer incentives that the manufacter might be offering and stack those on top of any rebates. i got about 12% off msrp on my car, and this was a month or two before the 05's came out. i also walked out on the salesman twice until i got the price i wanted, so i know that i either got the lowest the dealer was willing to go, or damn near to it. 5-8% off msrp is about average for most informed buyers. 25% off is just b.s.

i don't care what you think, a dealer will not LOSE money on a car.


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My last truck had a sticker price of $25,399. I got it OTD for $20,000. You should be a car marked at $18,500 for no greater than $18,500 OTD. That's really around a 9%-11% discount right there with taxes, title, etc. I'd start with $17,500 OTD, hope for $18k but if you really like the vehicle be glad at $18,500.
so you got more than a 25% discount on a new truck? that's such bull i shouldn't even have to touch it.


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Ya, I'm lying on on Internet forum about my truck deal so all the other posters will think I"m the king of negotiating. :roll:
What's funny is your post has no relevance to the question. He is asking, if a car costs $18,500, what can he expect to pay for it OTD. In other words, what do taxes, license, etc cost? You just used it as an excuse to brag that you got a great deal on a car. That's like someone asking "How much are the soda's after CRV?" and you say "Last time I bought soda, it was $4.99 a 12 pack but then there was an electrical storm and the registers went all funky and they only charged me $1.99" Who the hell cares.
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My last truck had a sticker price of $25,399. I got it OTD for $20,000. You should be a car marked at $18,500 for no greater than $18,500 OTD. That's really around a 9%-11% discount right there with taxes, title, etc. I'd start with $17,500 OTD, hope for $18k but if you really like the vehicle be glad at $18,500.
so you got more than a 25% discount on a new truck? that's such bull i shouldn't even have to touch it.


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Ya, I'm lying on on Internet forum about my truck deal so all the other posters will think I"m the king of negotiating. :roll:
What's funny is your post has no relevance to the question. He is asking, if a car costs $18,500, what can he expect to pay for it OTD. In other words, what do taxes, license, etc cost? You just used it as an excuse to brag that you got a great deal on a car. That's like someone asking "How much are the soda's after CRV?" and you say "Last time I bought soda, it was $4.99 a 12 pack but then there was an electrical storm and the registers went all funky and they only charged me $1.99" Who the hell cares.
Hey retard!!! Read my whole post before you spout off some useless dribble " I'd start with $17,500 OTD, hope for $18k but if you really like the vehicle be glad at $18,500."

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My last truck had a sticker price of $25,399. I got it OTD for $20,000. You should be a car marked at $18,500 for no greater than $18,500 OTD. That's really around a 9%-11% discount right there with taxes, title, etc. I'd start with $17,500 OTD, hope for $18k but if you really like the vehicle be glad at $18,500.
Was this a domestic truck? When I look at those, they were pretty much offering those kind of deals to me also, closing out older models.

I could barely get them to knock off 2K for my Tacoma.
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to answer the original question... figure on adding 10%
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My last truck had a sticker price of $25,399. I got it OTD for $20,000. You should be a car marked at $18,500 for no greater than $18,500 OTD. That's really around a 9%-11% discount right there with taxes, title, etc. I'd start with $17,500 OTD, hope for $18k but if you really like the vehicle be glad at $18,500.
Was this a domestic truck? When I look at those, they were pretty much offering those kind of deals to me also, closing out older models.

I could barely get them to knock off 2K for my Tacoma.
ya, chevy truck. Of course the original poster has to take into consideration the price of similar vehicles and the make/model of the vehicle but I was just stating what I personally would do and my experiences.
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My last truck had a sticker price of $25,399. I got it OTD for $20,000. You should be a car marked at $18,500 for no greater than $18,500 OTD. That's really around a 9%-11% discount right there with taxes, title, etc. I'd start with $17,500 OTD, hope for $18k but if you really like the vehicle be glad at $18,500.
so you got more than a 25% discount on a new truck? that's such bull i shouldn't even have to touch it.


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What's funny is your post has no relevance to the question. He is asking, if a car costs $18,500, what can he expect to pay for it OTD. In other words, what do taxes, license, etc cost? You just used it as an excuse to brag that you got a great deal on a car. That's like someone asking "How much are the soda's after CRV?" and you say "Last time I bought soda, it was $4.99 a 12 pack but then there was an electrical storm and the registers went all funky and they only charged me $1.99" Who the hell cares.
Hey retard!!! Read my whole post before you spout off some useless dribble " I'd start with $17,500 OTD, hope for $18k but if you really like the vehicle be glad at $18,500."


You changed your name to match an imaginary character from a website created by a retarded kid, and I am the retard? Even the advice portion of your worthless post is not answering the OP's question which clearly asked what he can expect to pay for TTL.

Pork that.
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My last truck had a sticker price of $25,399. I got it OTD for $20,000. You should be a car marked at $18,500 for no greater than $18,500 OTD. That's really around a 9%-11% discount right there with taxes, title, etc. I'd start with $17,500 OTD, hope for $18k but if you really like the vehicle be glad at $18,500.
so you got more than a 25% discount on a new truck? that's such bull i shouldn't even have to touch it.


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Ya, I'm lying on on Internet forum about my truck deal so all the other posters will think I"m the king of negotiating. :roll:
What's funny is your post has no relevance to the question. He is asking, if a car costs $18,500, what can he expect to pay for it OTD. In other words, what do taxes, license, etc cost? You just used it as an excuse to brag that you got a great deal on a car. That's like someone asking "How much are the soda's after CRV?" and you say "Last time I bought soda, it was $4.99 a 12 pack but then there was an electrical storm and the registers went all funky and they only charged me $1.99" Who the hell cares.
Hey retard!!! Read my whole post before you spout off some useless dribble " I'd start with $17,500 OTD, hope for $18k but if you really like the vehicle be glad at $18,500."
You changed your name to match an imaginary character from a website created by a retarded kid, and I am the retard? Even the advice portion of your worthless post is not answering the OP's question which clearly asked what he can expect to pay for TTL.

Pork that.
Holy crap I cannot begin to comprehend your stupidity!!! You've added nothing to this thread, I gave the guy EXACT numbers and you say my post is worthless and I didn't answer the question??? My answer is exactly what he asked for, now tell me again exactly how I didn't answer it? I appears that sygyzy is going fishing with that last post of his.
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