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Old 08-10-2003, 10:50 AM   #1
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Berkeley, the world champion of mass lactation, defended its crown Saturday against the upstart Australians in what has become something of a transpacific nursing grudge match.

On the count of, "One, two, three, latch!" nearly 700 moms suckled their babes in the Berkeley Community Theatre. Although the final head count was a bit shy of the 1,130 women who brought the title home to Berkeley last year, it still, to quote the master of ceremonies, "kicked some serious Aussie booby. "

Part of World Breast-Feeding Week, the competition's main purpose is "to support and promote breast-feeding," said Ellen Sirbu, director of Berkeley's Women, Infants and Children nutrition program. Goals of the competition include promoting breast-feeding education over free baby formula at hospitals and the freedom to nurse "anyplace moms and babies are allowed to be," Sirbu said.


Professional editorial . . . breastfed babies are healthier babies.
Personal editorial . . . breastfed babies are happier babies . . . but Pops is getting jealous.
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Old 08-10-2003, 11:40 AM   #2
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Thats really messed up...
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Old 08-10-2003, 11:45 AM   #3
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You'd be suprised at the looks a woman gets when breastfeeding her child. Sometimes they will even ask you to leave places (i.e. WalMart).

I keep waiting for it to happen to us someday so I can let loose
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Old 08-10-2003, 12:02 PM   #4
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Yeah, this country is so full of prudes... Bah.
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Old 08-10-2003, 01:07 PM   #5
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Well, you just knew this thread was going to get my attention.

Edit: BTW, I really cannot understand why anyone has a problem with seeing a woman breast feed her baby. It's seems about one of the most natural things in the world.
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Old 08-10-2003, 01:08 PM   #6
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What's so bad about women breast feeding?
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Old 08-10-2003, 01:17 PM   #7
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I'm shocked to hear such a thing is happening at Berkeley, the sane capital of the world
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Old 08-10-2003, 01:37 PM   #8
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What's so bad about women breast feeding?
It would put the companies like Nestle out of business. And our health care costs would be reduced, causing mass unemployment. Dire economic consequences

How is breast feeding done in the Middle East, I wonder?
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Old 08-10-2003, 01:53 PM   #9
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Breast feeding is very important. It reduces the chance of breast cancer later in life and also vastly improves a babies health.

Generally good to breast feed for about a year.
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Old 08-10-2003, 01:56 PM   #10
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At the house, in the closet, under a blanket and a burka . . .
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Old 08-10-2003, 03:09 PM   #11
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My wife breast feed our daughter for about six months and didn't give a schitt where she was. If the kid was crying for food she got fed. She was an old cowgirl and didn't mind speaking her mine. Women, esspecially, lactating mothers should stand up more for their natural duties and tell these losers to phuck off. !!!!!
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Old 08-10-2003, 03:39 PM   #12
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I think the problem is that in the US the breast is looked at as a sex organ, not as a gland to generate food for babies.

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Old 08-10-2003, 04:09 PM   #13
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Anybody complaining oughta get a squirt in the eye.
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Old 08-10-2003, 06:27 PM   #16
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Both my daughters were (are, my 1 year-old still is) breast fed.

The one change I asked my wife to do was bring a blanket into church so she could have a little extra privacy and be a little more considerate of the sensibilities of the others at church. She's always been militant about breastfeeding wherever she was, and then stopped to think about the different ages ranges at church and the different mindset people could be in while attending church and agreed that a "privacy" blanket was a good idea.

The hard times were when she was on call. She had to make sure that she pumped before and I had a supply of milk and she also had to be good about pumping while at the hospital.

There isn't a recommended cut-off date for stopping. In many ways, it is social, not medical. People generally stop somewhere between 1 and 2 and it is something between the baby and the mother.

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Old 08-10-2003, 07:52 PM   #17
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Yay for breastfeeding. I nursed all three of my kids, my mother nursed all four of hers, her mother nursed all hers, and her mother before her nursed all of her children. Bottle feeding was just never part of our culture.

I do not doubt for a moment that it has contributed to the above average health and intelligence my extended family enjoys.

I feel sad for people who can't (or won't) breastfeed for physical or emotional reasons, or who are uncomfortable with it. It's a shame to miss out on something that is so good for your children.
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Old 08-10-2003, 08:16 PM   #18
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Actually it's not just an issue between mother and baby. Every mother on WIC that cuts off the free mammary supply is an expense on the public welfare system. Those kids develop more infections/allergies, are more overweight, have poorer eyesight and IQ up to age 4 (last published studies). The mothers are more overweight (adequate breastfeeding can melt the pounds away), have more kids/closer together (Mother Nature was damn smart with natural birth spacing), and the anecdotal evidence that breastfeeding promotes maternal/child bonding.

One of the most significant tragedies of American capitalism has been the aggressive marketing of infant formula to Third World countries in SE Asia, subsaharan Africa, and the American South. Despite the fact American formulas through 2000 were inferior to European formulas (which included supplemental levels of amino acids like taurine and essential fatty acids like docosahexanoic acid (DHA) and eicosapentanoic acid (EPA) to more closely match the composition of human breastmilk). Not only is formula more expensive but you must have clean water to mix . . . but of course people trying to make a buck don't consider such factors when there's a market to be captured.
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Actually it's not just an issue between mother and baby. Every mother on WIC that cuts off the free mammary supply is an expense on the public welfare system. Those kids develop more infections/allergies, are more overweight, have poorer eyesight and IQ up to age 4 (last published studies). The mothers are more overweight (adequate breastfeeding can melt the pounds away), have more kids/closer together (Mother Nature was damn smart with natural birth spacing), and the anecdotal evidence that breastfeeding promotes maternal/child bonding.

One of the most significant tragedies of American capitalism has been the aggressive marketing of infant formula to Third World countries in SE Asia, subsaharan Africa, and the American South. Despite the fact American formulas through 2000 were inferior to European formulas (which included supplemental levels of amino acids like taurine and essential fatty acids like docosahexanoic acid (DHA) and eicosapentanoic acid (EPA) to more closely match the composition of human breastmilk). Not only is formula more expensive but you must have clean water to mix . . . but of course people trying to make a buck don't consider such factors when there's a market to be captured.
That's sick, sad, and heartbreakingly true.

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Old 08-10-2003, 09:19 PM   #20
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My wife is a La Leche League leader. Their organization does a tremendous amount of work trying to fight against the big formula companies (Nestle, etc.). For any of you that have ever had a child, the relationship they have with hospitals is sickening. Didn't you ever find it funny when you checked out of the hospital, and they hand you this huge back with free formula samples, coupons, etc. but not one single word about breastfeeding? (most hospitals anyhow). You get home, and there is more in the mailbox. Basically they are marketing drug pushers. Most sheep just jump right in and start poisoning their child My daughter is 3 years 4 months old and still nurses at bedtime.

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Old 08-10-2003, 09:41 PM   #21
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Part of World Breast-Feeding Week, the competition's main purpose is "to support and promote breast-feeding,"
Then I should say they have suckle-ceded because I was grossly unaware of the benefits of breast feeding and also unaware of The Man's efforts to market and sell bottled milk, both to us and third-world nations. Nipple in my life would I have guessed!
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Old 08-10-2003, 10:22 PM   #22
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Well I won't go as far as alchemize. There is a legitimate niche market for formula . . . women without adequate milk or on certain medications. Unfortunately, our capitalist/consumer society has reduced infant nutrition to just another market. Breastfeeding is almost always superior to formula feeding but I wouldn't call it "poisoning". Granted, I am still upset my mother didn't breastfeed . . . I think the goat milk is what kept my IQ under 180.
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Old 08-11-2003, 02:33 AM   #23
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Well I won't go as far as alchemize. There is a legitimate niche market for formula . . . women without adequate milk or on certain medications. Unfortunately, our capitalist/consumer society has reduced infant nutrition to just another market. Breastfeeding is almost always superior to formula feeding but I wouldn't call it "poisoning". Granted, I am still upset my mother didn't breastfeed . . . I think the goat milk is what kept my IQ under 18.0.
he forgot the decimal point again, it's not his fault though obviously


hey Doc , nothing personal there, stop tossing up those fat fastballs though....

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Goat's milk... hmmmm.... now I know why my mother split when I was young... I thirsted for knowledge even at a young age..
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