iPhone 5 regains US marketshare

[DaveStall]

Originally Posted by TuxDave

Clearly all gestures are just derivatives of a left to right swipe! Sometimes it just changes directions, or there's multiples of them, or they get all curvy and stuff! Clearly very obvious.

True. But then again I can remember one of the cool and unique features of the Opera browser was the large number of mouse gestures you could use. I would guess many of them are fairly similar to what we now use on our various smart phones. It wasn't done with a finger but the concept was already there for sure.

[MrX8503]

Originally Posted by DaveStall

I disagree. I had wireless syncing, voice commands and better notifications with JB apps long before Apple implemented them into the core operating system. The same can be said for:

Folders
Multitasking
Backgrounded apps
Third party executables
App Store
Copy/Paste
Pull down shade


Just to name a few. I have a hard time thinking of a ground breaking feature that wasn't available from a jailbreak first honestly. It is the ultimate feature test bed for Apple. They can take the best ideas and roll them into iOS and never need to worry about patent disputes.

I've been tinkering since the WinMo days and one thing I've learned is that those "features" are shit.

I think it's great that the community brings new ideas, but those "features" trashes your phone.

[TuxDave]

Originally Posted by DaveStall

True. But then again I can remember one of the cool and unique features of the Opera browser was the large number of mouse gestures you could use. I would guess many of them are fairly similar to what we now use on our various smart phones. It wasn't done with a finger but the concept was already there for sure.

You know what. I used Opera for so many years and I kept telling people how great mouse gestures were (if I didn't make it clear, it's SUPER AWESOME). All I got from the Chrome and Firefox people was "pffft, we don't need gestures".

Sadly I had to move on because I got sick of all these websites (Google, you too!) telling me to upgrade to a modern browser because it didn't recognize Opera. Damn them.

[DaveStall]

Originally Posted by MrX8503

I've been tinkering since the WinMo days and one thing I've learned is that those "features" are shit.

I think it's great that the community brings new ideas, but those "features" trashes your phone.

Some do and some don't. It all depends on the skill of those programming the features. I find that some of the JB implementations are still better than Apple's and some are most decidedly not. To make a blanket statement and say they are all "shit" is just that.

[DaveStall]

Originally Posted by TuxDave

You know what. I used Opera for so many years and I kept telling people how great mouse gestures were (if I didn't make it clear, it's SUPER AWESOME). All I got from the Chrome and Firefox people was "pffft, we don't need gestures".

Sadly I had to move on because I got sick of all these websites (Google, you too!) telling me to upgrade to a modern browser because it didn't recognize Opera. Damn them.

That is too true. I was always trying to get my friends to use Opera but never had any takers. Even back then it seems the idea of paying for a web browser just wasn't going to work. Too bad. I still sort of miss Opera but like you I finally moved on.

[WelshBloke]

Originally Posted by DLeRium

... Look at those who argued that iOS was stupid and the UI was trash. That's Nokia and their Symbian OS. S60v5 in 2009? LOL.

I don't think many argued against the iOS ui, it was more a functionality thing.

Which was fair enough if you remember what the iPhone 1 was like compared to its symbian peers.