Power consumption will be like any other P55 chipset board. Basically the "chipset" is pretty much merely a Southbridge as the memory controller and now the PCIe bus is built into the socket 1156 CPUs (and by Q1 even integrated video). Thus, the CPU (TDP of 95W?) is the bulk of the power draw.
For a really good graphics card you will still need a lot more power than the 22A that the FSP in the Silverstone gives you, plus modding the chassis to hold longer cards. Really, there is no "perfect" mini ITX gaming chassis.
A new company called Lan Gear is coming out with a micro ATX case later this month and the owner says he is working on a mini ITX case that will be "better" than the Silverstone for gamers. Just something to look forward to.
Because the CPU socket area is packed with capacitors and other various components, I wonder what kind of clearance issues this board might with heatsinks when being installed within an ITX case like SG06.
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According to this Silverstone rep, they will be offering a new 450 watt SFX PSU. I am hoping this will be an option for this case (rather than something that needs to be bought separately).
According to this Silverstone rep, they will be offering a new 450 watt SFX PSU.
Looking good for us SFF fans!
Alright, FSP as the OEM and single 36A +12v rail branded as Silverstone? That might work! FSP is a reasonable OEM, not the highest end but far from being crap.
The current highest capacity is this Athena Power with 33A. Unfortunately Athena Power PSUs are not known to be reliable or quiet.
I've also seen other enthusiast oriented higher wattage SFX PSUs that were modular from Ultra and SilenX, but the +12v amperage rating were pretty low so I wouldn't trust those.
I just hope the price is reasonable for the Silverstone SFX unit.
Alright, FSP as the OEM and single 36A +12v rail branded as Silverstone? That might work! FSP is a reasonable OEM, not the highest end but far from being crap.
Could something like this give decent overclocking headroom for a HD5850 and Core i5? Or are we talking stock volts overclocking at best?
Last edited by Computer Bottleneck; 11-08-2009 at 02:03 AM.
not sure why on earth you would want to aggressively overclock a mini ITX system anyways...
That being said, considering such a mini ITX system basically would really only comprise of a CPU, GPU, 2xRAM, and most likely just a single hard drive and ROM drive, 450W should be enough for an i5 and an overclocked 5850 (at least to 5870 levels).
The Anandtech review of the 5870 got a system load of 401W with a considerably beefier i7 rig.
I'd be more than content with an i5 @ ~3.3-3.4GHz on stock volts with a 5850 running at 5870 clocks in an ITX package.
not sure why on earth you would want to aggressively overclock a mini ITX system anyways...
That being said, considering such a mini ITX system basically would really only comprise of a CPU, GPU, 2xRAM, and most likely just a single hard drive and ROM drive, 450W should be enough for an i5 and an overclocked 5850 (at least to 5870 levels).
The Anandtech review of the 5870 got a system load of 401W with a considerably beefier i7 rig.
I'd be more than content with an i5 @ ~3.3-3.4GHz on stock volts with a 5850 running at 5870 clocks in an ITX package.
X-bit labs got 514 watts with a 4 Ghz i7 920 and a HD5850 @ 1010 Mhz core using Furmark and Linpack x64....this gives me an idea of how much juice is needed in maximum scenarios.
Stepping down from that to realistic levels with a stock box cooler (or mini itx specific cooler) is mostly what I am mostly interested in.
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/757/9 <-----Here is a review of the 300 watt FSP that comes with Sugo sg05. Although it is rated at only 300 watts apparently the testers were able to get 358 watts maximum from it. Maybe the upcoming SFX 450 watt PSU will rate higher for the maximum as well?
Last edited by Computer Bottleneck; 11-08-2009 at 06:58 PM.
A new company called Lan Gear is coming out with a micro ATX case later this month and the owner says he is working on a mini ITX case that will be "better" than the Silverstone for gamers. Just something to look forward to.
Well if he can design something efficient (from a cooling standpoint) then I would be interested.
Even this sugo sg05 is probably doing a much better job (per watt) with a single 120mm fan than my mostly empty aluminum ATX case is doing with two 120mm fans.
Last edited by Computer Bottleneck; 11-08-2009 at 05:43 PM.
X-bit labs got 514 watts with a 4 Ghz i7 920 and a HD5850 @ 1010 Mhz core using Furmark and Linpack x64....this gives me an idea of how much juice is needed in maximum scenarios.
Stepping down from that to realistic levels with a stock box cooler (or mini itx specific cooler) is mostly what I am mostly interested in.
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/757/9 <-----Here is a review of the 300 watt FSP that comes with Sugo sg05. Although it is rated at only 300 watts apparently the testers were able to get 358 watts maximum from it. Maybe the upcoming SFX 450 watt PSU will rate higher for the maximum as well?
yeah, with those numbers the 5850 @ stock + 4.1GHz 920 draws a max of 438W
The good news is that their most intensive game topped out at 374W, with the 5850 above 1GHz.
I still wouldn't expect 4GHz in a compact ITX case though, and I'd rather have the GPU overvolted/overclocked more than the CPU if I had to choose one over the other.
Try a 10.5" long card such as a GTX 260. I think I've seen one modded with the chassis cut out so the card sticks into the area behind the bezel, next to the fan.
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I think I've seen one modded with the chassis cut out so the card sticks into the area behind the bezel, next to the fan.
