Socket 603 Xeon MP [Now with benchmarks]

[NTMBK]

Originally Posted by SPBHM

l2 looks HIGH on this test, a lot higher than what I remember my K7 would achieve.

as for the 3dmark... that's unexpected.. I never really tested HT on 3dmark06, but on Vantage it brings good gains, well at least for nehalem and higher.

this 4600 is a DDR2 or DDR3 card?


anyway, HT seems to work well with some netburst CPUs
http://en.inpai.com.cn/doc/enshowcon...23&pageid=6627

The 4670 (misreported by 3dmark as a 4650) is a DDR3 card- basically the fastest AGP card you can get: http://www.hisdigital.com/un/product2-448.shtml

I noticed that the actual graphics-y 3DMark tests were improved by HT- I suspect that the unusually high load from their CPU tests caused the contention issues Ferzerp mentioned. They throw especially intensive CPU algorithms at every "core" available, so I can see that happening. I'd want to test it under a more realistic gaming benchmark before I turned it off.

Speaking of which- does anyone know any useful game demos which have a benchmark mode I could run? Something a bit more realistic than 3DMark!

[SPBHM]

the test I posted used Dirt 2 with a good result,
I think Dirt 2 demo have a benchmark mode, maybe dirt 3 demo also have (I'm not sure, but Dirt 2 does have)?

[Lorne]

We have a Supermicro p4ds8 that had 2 P4 Xeons 1.6Ghz and I upgraded them to P4 Xeon 3Ghz w/4Meg L3 for $17 total, Sadly the MB only uses PC 1600 memory and a 66mhz FSB, Totally pathetic.
The upgrade did nothing to help as the MB slow memory speed and lack of bandwidth choke the system to death, Even the BIOS is so limited that you cannot play with memory settings even with higher speed memory installed.
Sadly SiSandra benchmarks the memory at a sad 260MBps.

I have tried using several programs to view chipset features and none will show anything and even tried to do a bios dump and see if I can edit it directly and no programs can find it.
Seems like Supermicro made this MB really propriatary.
I have had to turn off HT because programs would take 2x longer to finish due to CPU starvation.

[SPBHM]

FSB 66? the lowest for netburst was 100Mhz I think,

but yes, PC1600 DDR should be significantly slower

[NTMBK]

Okay, I got the Dirt 2 demo and ran the benchmark on 1680x1050, Ultra quality, 4xAA. Results? Average FPS 16.9, 13.9. Actually not as bad as I was expecting! If I turned down a few settings I can definitely see that being playable.

[SPBHM]

Originally Posted by NTMBK

Okay, I got the Dirt 2 demo and ran the benchmark on 1680x1050, Ultra quality, 4xAA. Results? Average FPS 16.9, 13.9. Actually not as bad as I was expecting! If I turned down a few settings I can definitely see that being playable.

try not using AA and lowering a few things to see how much the CPU is limiting (720P medium shouldn't be a problem for the 4670, I think), also have you tried HT on and off?

[NTMBK]

Originally Posted by SPBHM

try not using AA and lowering a few things to see how much the CPU is limiting (720P medium shouldn't be a problem for the 4670, I think), also have you tried HT on and off?

Okay, no AA and 720p medium gives 22.7 average, and 13.8 min- bit of an improvement, but seems to indicate a CPU bottleneck. I'll try again with HT off.

EDIT: Same test with HT off- 20.6 average, 13.9 min. Looks like HT gives a slight boost.

[Arkaign]

Do you have GRID? That might run. A bit older than Dirt2, but a better game imho.

[chey229]

Originally Posted by NTMBK

As my sig now indicates, I managed to upgrade the processors! The trickiest part was that the TIM had set solid- when I lifted the heatsinks, it yanked the old processors out without despite the socket being "shut". I managed to get the processors off the heatsinks and remount them, and there seems to be no harm done.

Your system is wonderful. It is so great to see how you gave new life to your old rig.

These CPU's are simply great. I use them in an NCCH-DL board and a HD3850, and they have an impressive performance, specially at 3300/600 MHz These CPU's might have the best consumption / calculation power ratio on the single-core NetBurst Xeon field.

[Idontcare]

Welcome to the forums chey229

[NTMBK]

Originally Posted by chey229

Your system is wonderful. It is so great to see how you gave new life to your old rig.

These CPU's are simply great. I use them in an NCCH-DL board and a HD3850, and they have an impressive performance, specially at 3300/600 MHz These CPU's might have the best consumption / calculation power ratio on the single-core NetBurst Xeon field.

Yeah, this seems like Netburst's best period to me looking back- they totally wasted a die shrink with Prescott/Nocona, and came back with a design that not only had a significantly longer pipeline but also didn't clock significantly higher. If I could turn back time, and tell Intel to just do a straight shrink of Northwood and put two on a die...