Hyper V Server

[theevilsharpie]

Originally Posted by Nothinman

I would say the opposite. The host OS makes a big difference and the last time I tried VMware on Windows its disk I/O was noticeably worse than that of Linux. Perhaps things are better now, but I would still lean towards a Linux host if you want performance.

That has not been my experience. I suppose it's plausible that Windows is more I/O starved than Ubuntu because it generally has more shit going on at any given point in time (indexing, antivirus, etc.), but that's hardly the fault of the OS.

[Nothinman]

Originally Posted by theevilsharpie

That has not been my experience. I suppose it's plausible that Windows is more I/O starved than Ubuntu because it generally has more shit going on at any given point in time (indexing, antivirus, etc.), but that's hardly the fault of the OS.

I don't think I had an A/V installed, but it's been quite a while so I could be wrong. But it's still the fault of the OS that so much extra crap is "required" =)

[TheSlamma]

Originally Posted by Nothinman

No, if you want to be pedantic, nowhere in that post did you say "You don't want to use Hyper-V".

God, why can't people explicitly say what they mean and not assume everyone else is thinking exactly like them these days...

From my unedited post (so you can't go back on it and say I changed it)

"the local console of a HtperV server isn't going to do much for you at all, it's pretty much designed to be an appliance.
The evilsharpie is correct, VirtualBox is probably the best thing for what you are trying to do"

I don't want to be pedantic, you do though it seems.

[destrekor]

So, I know VirtualBox and Windows Server 2012 are going to be in the mix somewhere, in some fashion.

Maybe throwing ESXi to get some familiarity and training, see if I can't get acquainted with it and start learning it for a career specialty.

That being said, my goals are this (using the laptop as a user(s), maybe a VM or two on the system, through virtual networking, as additional test users):
utilize Win Server, Active Directory, and likely Sharepoint and SQL Server (the last two being a fishing exercise: see if they tickle my fancy, if I can make something sing a decent song).

I have a partition and boot entry that need to be removed (Win8 Release Preview). I figure, SOMETHING should go in there, but... perhaps not. It's a partition on a 180gb SSD (I split it between that and Ubuntu; Win7, well now Win8, having an SSD of its own). If I don't use it for this, I'll reclaim it as additional frequently used app/game space for my Win8 install. Can't let it go to waste.
But, throwing VMs on there sounds like blasphemy, and to date, they've gone on the Raid0 volume on my Intel RST array, the other volume being a Raid1 for storage - not an ideal RAID setup, but if one drive dies, at least I can recover something. Still need to buy into an external backup solution, but that's a different topic.

Should I install WinServer on that partition, then do any VMs/hypervisor work from there?
Or should I just utilize my Ubuntu install, throw WinServer in a VirtualBox VM?

I should be able to technically take that configured VM and also run it in VirtualBox under my Windows install then, too, yes? I figure, while I'm at it, might as well see if I can test this "one OS is better for VMs than the other OS" concept.

In any case, I'm just trying to figure out the most practical approach to handling this sandbox scenario, while also invoking as many technology concepts as possible without sacrificing performance, or in order to improve performance. Just for the sake of doing it to say I did it, but also trying to extract as much usable and practical workplace knowledge as I can.

[theevilsharpie]

I tried to read your post several times, but I just simply can't decode your "stream of consciousness" posting style.

Pretend this is Twitter. In 160 characters or less, what exactly are you asking?

[destrekor]

I don't feel like retyping it just for you at this moment (going to bed), but I have this to add:

Sharepoint Foundation (or Search Server Express), ie the free version of Sharepoint, offer enough to get my feet wet with Sharepoint? I don't have access to an MSDN account from school where Sharepoint was offered, and the basic Dreamspark accounts don't offer Sharepoint (though I am grabbing Windows and SQL servers from there).


As for the last post: I guess, for now, focus on the second half, starting with:
"Should I install WinServer on that partition..."

with this bit of info in your mind:
"That being said, my goals are this (using the laptop as a user(s), maybe a VM or two on the system, through virtual networking, as additional test users):
utilize Win Server, Active Directory, and likely Sharepoint and SQL Server (the last two being a fishing exercise: see if they tickle my fancy, if I can make something sing a decent song). "