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Old 11-03-2012, 10:38 AM   #26
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Do you work for Honda? 27/37 is not amazing when cars that weigh 1000lbs more with 100 more HP get the same mileage and you don't have to suffer with a CVT. And all those features come standard.
There's a car that weight 4000+ lbs with 290hp and get a REAL world 27mpg city and 36mpg highway? Is this a Hyundai by any chance? lol They're pretty truthful about their claimed MPG.
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Old 11-03-2012, 11:06 AM   #27
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I got close to 47mpg with my Jetta TDI on road trips. Shrug
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Old 11-03-2012, 12:40 PM   #28
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I got close to 47mpg with my Jetta TDI on road trips. Shrug
I didn't know they weigh that much and have so much horsepower. That's really good then! I wonder why people flock to the prius when you can get a 290hp car that get the same MPG as the prius.
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Old 11-05-2012, 01:03 PM   #29
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I am in the same boat as most other people.
I want to love the CR-Z but its pretty hard.

It looks great, and has a manual trans. That's it.
SI engine/RWD/6MT --> winner.
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Old 11-05-2012, 02:55 PM   #30
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Old 11-05-2012, 06:43 PM   #31
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$20.5k car +$17.5k in "upgrade". I wonder what kinda of car I can get with $38k that will surpass that CRZ in every way, shape, or form.
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Old 11-05-2012, 06:44 PM   #32
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$20.5k car +$17.5k in "upgrade". I wonder what kinda of car I can get with $38k that will surpass that CRZ (with a hamster civic si engine) in every way, shape, or form.
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Old 11-05-2012, 09:09 PM   #33
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Didn't say it was smart.

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Old 11-05-2012, 11:07 PM   #34
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I'd say no, if the cars got similar mileage to the 1st gen insight they would have no problem getting rid of them, but as it stands they probably should have just offered the car with the k-series engine from the factory.
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Old 11-05-2012, 11:44 PM   #35
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Is this a Hyundai by any chance? lol They're pretty truthful about their claimed MPG.
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The main problem with the CRZ is that a sporty hybrid with a stick shift is something that men want, but cars that small are mostly purchased by women.
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Ironically my wife hates our CR-Z
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Old 11-06-2012, 06:08 PM   #38
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The main problem with the CRZ is that a sporty hybrid with a stick shift is something that men want, but cars that small are mostly purchased by women.
I don't know any men that want a "sporty hybrid with a stick shift". I think most men can do without the hybrid.
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The main problem with the CRZ is that a sporty hybrid with a stick shift is something that men want, but cars that small are mostly purchased by women.
My gf doesn't like hers.. #1 issue is the lack of visibility (especially the rear). #2 crappy MPG for a hybrid #3 right foglight cracked after 2 months of ownership. She got swindled by the salesman after going to the dealership for a Fit.
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:45 AM   #40
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My gf doesn't like hers.. #1 issue is the lack of visibility (especially the rear). #2 crappy MPG for a hybrid #3 right foglight cracked after 2 months of ownership. She got swindled by the salesman after going to the dealership for a Fit.
I'm not saying women like the CRZ, but they seem to be the ones driving all the Yaris's, Fits, and Mazda2's.
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I don't know any men that want a "sporty hybrid with a stick shift". I think most men can do without the hybrid.
I'll take one . I like the Prius because it's a very impressive piece of technology and engineering. Unfortunately it's boring to look at and boring to drive so I'd never buy one.

I honestly think if they made a Civic Hybrid with a stick that got at least close to the same MPG as the CVT it would sell.
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:55 AM   #42
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I honestly think if they made a Civic Hybrid with a stick that got at least close to the same MPG as the CVT it would sell.
They used to...it didn't sell (gen 1 Civic hybrid).

The market for sticks is so small its a wonder anyone bothers offering them. I will do my best to continue buying them but its very rare to find people who won't buy a car because it only comes with an automatic. I'm in that boat...but obviously I have to draw the line at some point like midsize SUVs and Minivans

EDIT: And if dbk's gf just slowed the f down she would easily beat EPA estimates
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Old 11-07-2012, 10:02 AM   #43
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I'd say no, if the cars got similar mileage to the 1st gen insight they would have no problem getting rid of them, but as it stands they probably should have just offered the car with the k-series engine from the factory.
yea if they didn't try to push the bs hybrid crap, and wanted it in the "spirit" of the old crx, they should have put the k series in it from the start, it would sell like crazy.
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