The real problem that no one is discussing

[Exterous]

Originally Posted by Pr0d1gy

OK, so where's your link then?

Uh...in the article you linked to?

Here I will make it really simple for you:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/calebmel...bamacare-math/

Last year, Papa John’s International captured $1.218 billion in revenue*. Total operating expenses were $1.131 billion. So if Schnatter’s math is accurate (Obamacare will cost his company $5-8 million more annually), then new regulation translates into a .4% to .7% (yes, fractions of a percent) expense increase.

*If you read their filings this is from their Total Revenue line

I would think Forbes would know how to break down a cost v sales analysis

If you had bothered to read the article you would know that this author does not. He just used a straight total revenue which is a completely moronic way to calculate cost per pizza that anyone with even a minuscule amount of accounting/business knowledge should know

[Darwin333]

Originally Posted by Pr0d1gy

OK Papa John, you're telling me that insuring your entire workforce for 4 cents extra per large pizza is going to kill everything. Certainly sounds reasonable....wait, what?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2123207.html

Go learn something you fucking douchenozzle.

What the fuck does that have to do with what I listed in the OP? Are people going to magically stop participating in free .gov programs because some people that likely weren't qualified anyways got insurance?

Seems that you are the one that doesn't understand very basic mathematics. I have my daughters math textbook from last year, its 5th grade so you might need a bit of remedial before you jump in, that I can loan to you if you would like.

[shira]

Sooner or later, the answer is - of course - death panels.

You're 88 and you need a hip replacement? Sorry, not covered.

You're 68 with severe renal failure? Sorry, dialysis not covered.

If you're at the top of the wealth curve, you'll have no problems. But for everyone else, rationing is inevitable.

[Darwin333]

Originally Posted by shira

Sooner or later, the answer is - of course - death panels.

You're 88 and you need a hip replacement? Sorry, not covered.

You're 68 with severe renal failure? Sorry, dialysis not covered.

If you're at the top of the wealth curve, you'll have no problems. But for everyone else, rationing is inevitable.

This is the only option that is feasibly available, albeit perhaps not to your extremes, but the problem is one of political will and public support. As I said in the OP, I seriously doubt they will do anything about it until we hit the wall.

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally Posted by Darwin333

This is the only option that is feasibly available, albeit perhaps not to your extremes, but the problem is one of political will and public support. As I said in the OP, I seriously doubt they will do anything about it until we hit the wall.

We never had a dialogue about healthcare. All we talked about was money. The dems squandered an important moment early on like Bush did 9/11.

Healthocons.

When was there ever a dialogue about enhancing a practitioners ability to help a patient? Oh no thats not important. It's all about waving a magic wand and insurance. God help us if Congress starts designing bridges.