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[Tom]

Why isn't Intel in this business ? Or are they ?

[Red Storm]

Intel has a monopoly on x86, so rather than get into the ARM game they want to try and eliminate it with their own chips.

[Puddle Jumper]

Originally Posted by Tom

Why isn't Intel in this business ? Or are they ?

Fabs are their biggest edge over everyone else, their processes are consistently better than the competition and are generally ready much sooner as well so taking outside work would help other SoC vendors better compete with them.

[badb0y]

One thing we have learned from the CPU market is never underestimate intel. Who knows 5-10 years down the road intel might own the mobile SoC market too...lol

[Yongsta]

Originally Posted by Tom

Why isn't Intel in this business ? Or are they ?

Intel sells their own chips at ridiculously high margins. ARM licenses out their chips and manufacturers like Samsung sell their SoC at pretty low margins (comparatively). Intel would have to sell a huge volume to match similar profit.

[WelshBloke]

Originally Posted by Tom

Why isn't Intel in this business ? Or are they ?

I think that they used to make ARM based stuff. Wasn't that the Xscale stuff.

I've got an old HP iPaq that has an Xscale chip in it.

[DaveStall]

Originally Posted by WelshBloke

I think that they used to make ARM based stuff. Wasn't that the Xscale stuff.

I've got an old HP iPaq that has an Xscale chip in it.

Yep, that was it. They sold that part of their business to Marvell some years ago.

[grkM3]

Originally Posted by badb0y

One thing we have learned from the CPU market is never underestimate intel. Who knows 5-10 years down the road intel might own the mobile SoC market too...lol

You can easily say the same thing for arm taking over the x86 market,the way things are going now I can easily see arm cpus taking over the pc market.

take a look at the google chrome book laptop,its using an arm a15 dual core and I can see that taking off big time in the next few years

[WelshBloke]

Originally Posted by grkM3

You can easily say the same thing for arm taking over the x86 market,the way things are going now I can easily see arm cpus taking over the pc market.

take a look at the google chrome book laptop,its using an arm a15 dual core and I can see that taking off big time in the next few years

I'm not sur that ARM will ever take over but it would certainly be interesting if they did.

At the moment Intel controls the desktop space very tightly, they have incredible manufacturing and R&D experience and a very tight grip on X86 licences.

ARM are pretty much the opposite. They aren't a manufacturing powerhouse and are free with their licencing.

They are very different philosophies and it would be interesting to see what would happen if ARM 'took over'.

[Puddle Jumper]

Originally Posted by grkM3

You can easily say the same thing for arm taking over the x86 market,the way things are going now I can easily see arm cpus taking over the pc market.

take a look at the google chrome book laptop,its using an arm a15 dual core and I can see that taking off big time in the next few years

How? Even now Exynos 5250 is the first ARM SoC to beat Atom which is a low end part from 2008. Even the lowest end Ivy bridge parts utterly dominate ARM in every performance metric.

[WelshBloke]

Originally Posted by Puddle Jumper

How? Even now Exynos 5250 is the first ARM SoC to beat Atom which is a low end part from 2008. Even the lowest end Ivy bridge parts utterly dominate ARM in every performance metric.

Whats the power envelope on those chips?

[Yongsta]

Originally Posted by Puddle Jumper

How? Even now Exynos 5250 is the first ARM SoC to beat Atom which is a low end part from 2008. Even the lowest end Ivy bridge parts utterly dominate ARM in every performance metric.

Probably not this generation but in the future with 64 bit and beyond.