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12-03-2012, 12:05 AM
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JBL ES30s
Are they a good replacement for my infinity P163s? Do they have good mid range for the price?
They have less sensitivity and that shouldn't be a problem since I don't need to hear them 150 feet away.
I love my HK3490 the thing is amazing, I just haven't loved the p163s that much because they don't accept banana plugs and they aren't that good at low volume. They're also a little bass heavy for my liking.
Fortunately, I have some BJC cables with locking banana plugs on both ends that they ultrasonically welded so I can't wait for my ES30s to arrive.
Also, if anyone wants to buy my P163s... they're for sale on AT FS/T. I haven't bumped that thread's ass in a while though.
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12-03-2012, 12:33 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Anarchist420
...I just haven't loved the p163s that much because they don't accept banana plugs...
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You need to learn more about 5-way binding posts.
But yes, mid range JBL bookshelf speakers should sound better than entry-level Infinity bookshelf speakers. Otherwise even Harman might have reservations about charging three times as much for them.
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12-03-2012, 12:50 AM
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@ CallMeJoe: Thank you 
I'm a little, just a little skeptical as to whether the mids will be significantly better though.
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12-03-2012, 12:51 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CallMeJoe
You need to learn more about 5-way binding posts.
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Direct contact is good, but the problem is that neither my dad nor I nor even the guy at ACE could get the wire stripped anywhere near perfectly so I've got to be losing something there.
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12-03-2012, 07:27 AM
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Lifer
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: North of Tonto, ON
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Anarchist420
Direct contact is good, but the problem is that neither my dad nor I nor even the guy at ACE could get the wire stripped anywhere near perfectly so I've got to be losing something there.
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? how hard is it to strip wires??? just don't touch the copper directly with your finger. Wear some gloves for the twisting.
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12-03-2012, 05:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Anarchist420
Direct contact is good, but the problem is that neither my dad nor I nor even the guy at ACE could get the wire stripped anywhere near perfectly so I've got to be losing something there.
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Pull the plastic plug out of the center of the post, then contemplate the banana jack revealed...
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12-03-2012, 07:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CallMeJoe
Pull the plastic plug out of the center of the post, then contemplate the banana jack revealed...
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There is no banana jack on the P163s, it accepts bare wire only.
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12-03-2012, 07:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Anarchist420
There is no banana jack on the P163s, it accepts bare wire only.
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I accidentally bought one (thought I was buying a pair  ), and it had banana jacks.
Maybe you need to remove the caps:
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Last edited by Childs; 12-03-2012 at 07:32 PM.
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12-03-2012, 07:43 PM
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I just realized I have the P162s. sorry about that.
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12-03-2012, 07:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Anarchist420
I just realized I have the P162s. sorry about that.
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Yeah, I saw your post in FS/FT. The pic above is of a P162.
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12-03-2012, 10:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Childs
Yeah, I saw your post in FS/FT. The pic above is of a P162.
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How do you remove them? I can't get them out buy pinching them.
I feel like a dumbass for not realizing that they could be removed, but the fact that they're in there so tight by default would make anyone wonder what the hell they are.
NVM: I got them out.
Last edited by Anarchist420; 12-03-2012 at 11:33 PM.
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12-03-2012, 10:45 PM
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No Lifer
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use a knife, thats what i normally use, or a nail clipper. you just have to get something under the lip and pop them out
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12-04-2012, 01:22 AM
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Lifer
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Had the same problem too (for about 15 minutes) before I realized the caps could come out. They should not be there anyway.
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