**OFFICIAL** Star Wars: The Old Republic Thread

[zinfamous]

Originally Posted by AMDZen

No I didn't say that. You can buy things with cartel coins that you can sell for credits. zinfamous was saying he had all these coins and they were only good for unlocking stuff which isn't true

that's not what I said.

I said that while I get all these free coins for being a paying customer before, I still have to unlock the things which I already had access to by virtue of paying a sub for several months. I now have to unlock these things using these "free coins."

that pisses me off.

So, if I want to use them for other purposes, a significant pool of them now goes into recreating the game which I had already paid for. fuck that.

again--I think this is a fair enough model for new players just starting on the F2P path, but this is complete garbage for those that have already paid much more real money for game access than F2P will ever have to pay.


For me to begin playing the game again, coins are essentially only good for unlocking all that I already have in this game from the grinding and sub payments over months. I thought locking out of FP and all of that without a sub makes sense-- but to put me in this version of a non-sub model even though I had already paid many months of a sub--garbage.

[CVSiN]

Originally Posted by zinfamous

that's not what I said.

I said that while I get all these free coins for being a paying customer before, I still have to unlock the things which I already had access to by virtue of paying a sub for several months. I now have to unlock these things using these "free coins."

that pisses me off.

So, if I want to use them for other purposes, a significant pool of them now goes into recreating the game which I had already paid for. fuck that.

again--I think this is a fair enough model for new players just starting on the F2P path, but this is complete garbage for those that have already paid much more real money for game access than F2P will ever have to pay.


For me to begin playing the game again, coins are essentially only good for unlocking all that I already have in this game from the grinding and sub payments over months. I thought locking out of FP and all of that without a sub makes sense-- but to put me in this version of a non-sub model even though I had already paid many months of a sub--garbage.

So you expect the same experience as a sub just because you played before?
sorry the world does not work that way.
want want the full experience pay the sub.
if not don't.

this is still a game they want subs for. This is not GW1/2
the FTP is just there to keep the money coming in and it is doing a good job.

[zinfamous]

Originally Posted by CVSiN

So you expect the same experience as a sub just because you played before?
sorry the world does not work that way.
want want the full experience pay the sub.
if not don't.

this is still a game they want subs for. This is not GW1/2
the FTP is just there to keep the money coming in and it is doing a good job.

the things I want do not currently require a full sub, as far as I understand it. so, yeah, I want what I fucking paid for. otherwise, I got my enjoyable time out of it--though I believe I paid way too much for it in the first place (the sub model for MMOs is a complete joke any way you look at it, fwiw)

[BrightCandle]

Back in December/January I had a lot of technical problems with the game. I had corrupt files for install issues, and various graphical performance and setup issues that plagued my experience. I loved the game but it was a challenge getting it working and then they released a patch that forced my game to think it was 48:10 instead of 16:10 due to the presence of the other two monitors. I had had enough.

So the other week I deceided to give it a try again, see if the technical problems were gone. I installed via Origin but found that method is obsolete and doesn't work, you have to download the installer from the website. OK thankfully someone helped me with that one. Started the game, fishbowl 48:10 effect, again. Uninstalled.

Really fun game ruined by technical issues that remain over a year after it was released. I am not actually surprised they aren't fixing this stuff, they threatened to ban me for reporting a bug at one point, it was near on impossible to get them to accept the game had problems. Now this is the impact, its no wonder it didn't do well.

[exar333]

A little of a necro revival, but anyone playing again with the expansion? I grabbed a 2-month sub and the Hutt Cartel expansion for cheap and plan on running through it.

Reviews or impressions so far?

[ArenCordial]

I've run through both sides on the expansion and here's my take

The Good
-The Makeb storyline is pretty good. Its a much more cinematic and larger world storyline than the previous SWTOR planets. I enjoyed being able to take some of my characters through to quest and experience a storyline again.
-Dailies - The game is literally swimming in dailies right now.
-Something to do after Makeb with the Seeker/Binocular quests. The quests themselves were a grind but the conclusions were pretty good.
-Class Balance. For the most part I think they did a good job here. They nerfed the lolsmashers and easy rolling Vanguard/Pyro. Most classes got some help, and Scoundrel/Operative dps may even be PvE viable these days. While nothing is perfect I think they did a good job of bring the most of the classes more towards the middle of the playing field.
-New Abilities. Every Adv class got a new power. The powers are mostly centered around helping the class out with a weakness PvP-wise, but some have good PvE applications as well.

The Meh
-Only one new Operation.
-The Gear grind has slowed down a lot. Not a bad thing itself but I have way too many alts to invest in getting them all top geared now.

The Bad
-No Class Story Continuation. Most know this but it doesn't seem like Class Stories will continue. So after you've been through Makeb once on each side, you've seen the new story. All your alts for that faction will have the same story without much personalization.
-No new Flashpoints, only hard mode versions of previous flashpoints that were lacking a hard mode.
-The Seeker missions especially are a mindnumbing grind like the HK component quests.
-Lack of Companion Interaction. Your companions say a line when entering an area and thats it. No conversations or dialogue interruption. You can still can Affection but thats it.

tl;dr For subscribers at $10 its priced right.