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02-27-2013, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Lepton87
If you don't mind OC you can match a stock Titan with an OCed Asus Matrix 7970. I'd like to see some tests comparing a titan to 7970 at 1350MHz/1.65GHz
The only game I found benchmarked at equal settings. The cards from Asus Matrix review are using older drivers that's why GTX680 gets slightly lower fps.
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Here's the rest of what was said in that review for the graphs you posted:
"In the apples-to-apples test we are running at the High AA setting, which the GeForce GTX TITAN has no trouble delivering a playable experience. Now, it looks like the Radeon HD 7970 GE would be playable with its level of performance, however, the game is laggy and feels choppy despite the framerate showing what would normally be a good level for playability. The actual experience was different than the framerates show, it felt a lot slower than the framerates were showing. TITAN didn't experience this; it was perfectly smooth with no lag."
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02-27-2013, 02:30 PM
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#277
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Got my second Titan in today. SLI is nice and smooth. After my experience with 7970 CF I'll have to say 680 and Titan SLI is a much better experience.
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02-27-2013, 02:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DooKey
Here's the rest of what was said in that review for the graphs you posted:
"In the apples-to-apples test we are running at the High AA setting, which the GeForce GTX TITAN has no trouble delivering a playable experience. Now, it looks like the Radeon HD 7970 GE would be playable with its level of performance, however, the game is laggy and feels choppy despite the framerate showing what would normally be a good level for playability. The actual experience was different than the framerates show, it felt a lot slower than the framerates were showing. TITAN didn't experience this; it was perfectly smooth with no lag."
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Ouch.
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02-27-2013, 02:43 PM
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#279
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Let's make sure history never forgets... the name... 'Enterprise'. Picard out.
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02-27-2013, 02:54 PM
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I pointed out the narrative for no other reason than full disclosure. I hate cherry picking and half-truths.
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02-27-2013, 02:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DooKey
I pointed out the narrative for no other reason than full disclosure. I hate cherry picking and half-truths.
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I understand this. It was mentioned twice a o/c card could beat or match a Titan . I'm sure it might in a couple games. But there is a larger spread than intimated. And that's if /when you can sustain a 1300+ o/c in gaming.
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02-27-2013, 03:11 PM
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#282
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DooKey
I pointed out the narrative for no other reason than full disclosure. I hate cherry picking and half-truths.
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That was comparing the Titan to a non-overclocked 7970, besides H subjective opinion is worthless to me, the AVG fps of 44 always feels choppy to me. I never settle for anything less then 60 fps.
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02-27-2013, 03:14 PM
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#283
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Originally Posted by Jacky60
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Titan. Easily. Why would you pay £899.99 for nearly a kilowatt of microstutter?
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02-27-2013, 03:30 PM
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#284
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lepton87
That was comparing the Titan to a non-overclocked 7970, besides H subjective opinion is worthless to me, the AVG fps of 44 always feels choppy to me. I never settle for anything less then 60 fps.
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Well I believe them because I got rid of my 7970's for 680's because of the damn MS and don't regret it one bit.
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02-27-2013, 05:06 PM
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#285
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02-27-2013, 06:36 PM
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#286
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lepton87
If you don't mind OC you can match a stock Titan with an OCed Asus Matrix 7970. I'd like to see some tests comparing a titan to 7970 at 1350MHz/1.65GHz
The only game I found benchmarked at equal settings. The cards from Asus Matrix review are using older drivers that's why GTX680 gets slightly lower fps.
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Much as i would love to grab a 7970 Matrix as i thought about it,overclocks aren't guaranteed as my msi tf3 7850 maxs out at 1050/1450@1.225v while plenty of others can get well over 1100 core.
Quit playing BF3 which was my most demanding game title about a month ago so honestly for the time being the 7850 i have is more then enough even at stock then some and personally with how cool,quiet and compact it is that basically this card has become my all time favorite gpu.
When BF4 debuts perhaps i will grab a 7970GE or the best single card at $500 or less.
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02-28-2013, 06:24 AM
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#287
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My two Titans are underway, will arrive today or tomorrow.
I want to do a user review but I will not benchmark the standard stuff. I'd rather go 4K/downsampling, forced ambient occlusion, SGSSAA etc. However, I would be willing to do some standard standalone or integrated benchmarks like Unigine Valley, AvP etc. for clock vs. clock comparisons between the Titan and a 680 and 7970, as I'm interested in unit scaling. But I would need some volunteers for that.
If you have any ideas or wishes for benchmarks or power/temperature measurements I'm definitely open for suggestions. Please keep in mind that I will not overclock my 3930K to ludicrous levels - it is far easier to increase GPU load than to find stable overclocks. So please no "1080p+4xMSAA@200fps in BF3" stuff.
The review thread will be opened tomorrow or on Saturday depending on how fast things go.
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02-28-2013, 07:01 AM
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#288
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Maybe do a uniengine valley and heaven test with 8x msaa + 8x sgssa at 2560x1440? I don't know if you can do that resolution but it would seem that 1080p is way off from the target I see for these cards in sli.
It is too bad crysis 3 has no benchmark mode. It is a prime candidate for these cards IMO.
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02-28-2013, 07:08 AM
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#289
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I can do any resolution up to 3840x2160
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02-28-2013, 07:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boxleitnerb
I can do any resolution up to 3840x2160 
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Does DVI dual link even support that? Not sure about HDMI or displayport.....
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02-28-2013, 07:40 AM
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#291
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Downsampling/downscaling...the monitor only displays its native 1080p, but the render resolution can be anything I want. Think of it as OGSSAA. 3840x2160@1920x1080 is basically 2x2 OGSSAA.
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02-28-2013, 07:42 AM
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#292
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boxleitnerb
If you have any ideas or wishes for benchmarks or power/temperature measurements I'm definitely open for suggestions.
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Do some compute work...folding, SETI, etc.
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02-28-2013, 07:56 AM
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#293
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If you tell me how, I'm completely new to that stuff
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02-28-2013, 08:20 AM
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You bet. I'll shoot you a PM tonight with some info.
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02-28-2013, 08:36 AM
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#295
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boxleitnerb
Downsampling/downscaling...the monitor only displays its native 1080p, but the render resolution can be anything I want. Think of it as OGSSAA. 3840x2160@1920x1080 is basically 2x2 OGSSAA.
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Two Titans 1080P? You need at least six 30" monitors. It's in the PC building rule book ya know.
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02-28-2013, 08:40 AM
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#296
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Lol, yeah I will expect some comments on this topic. But I can easily defeat the Titans even at 1080p and push them into single digits. Not problem at all
Btw the folding@home GPU3 client always crashes. Currently I have a GT520@FW314.07 installed, maybe that card or driver isn't supported?
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02-28-2013, 09:02 AM
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#297
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You can do whatever you want. Just a warning though, there will be people jumping your case for being different.
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