Microsoft Security Essentials loses AV-Test certificate

[berryracer]

Originally Posted by Scouzer

Not a surprise... MSE is a pretty terrible product.

MSE is a piece of shitz product

[akugami]

MSE is not a crap product. It's a "good enough" product for those who aren't downloading porn or pirated software. That's what it's meant for. If you really need stronger protection than what MSE is providing, then you need to evaluate your internet activities and web browsing habits.

[dguy6789]

Originally Posted by akugami

MSE is not a crap product. It's a "good enough" product for those who aren't downloading porn or pirated software. That's what it's meant for. If you really need stronger protection than what MSE is providing, then you need to evaluate your internet activities and web browsing habits.

This.

[IlllI]

so basically mse is only good enough for about 10% of the general population.

[ketchup79]

Originally Posted by IlllI

so basically mse is only good enough for about 10% of the general population.

Um, no. It is for people that don't download crap.

[Rayb]

^ + 100%

[dguy6789]

Originally Posted by IlllI

so basically mse is only good enough for about 10% of the general population.

99% of users will never get a virus if they keep windows up to date and use MSE even if they are only as computer literate as the random MSE haters on this forum

[jkroeder]

and at the end of the day, all anti-virus products are hit or miss and shouldn't be relied upon

[georgec84]

Seems like MSE is fine as long as you don't download new, 0-day stuff. It'll all go into their certifications eventually.

[mechBgon]

Originally Posted by jkroeder

and at the end of the day, all anti-virus products are hit or miss and shouldn't be relied upon

This. Point in case: it took 5 years for any AV to begin picking up Red October, to name just one example. Yay antivirus

Regarding the gripe about it not detecting enough zero-days to suit AV-Test's arbitrary pass/fail numbers, it would be interesting to see the bottom line effect of installing and configuring Microsoft EMET. It's a very effective anti-exploit tool (particularly on WinXP which has greater need of it), it's free, and it's within at least power-users' skill sets to install and configure. It's not like Microsoft hasn't stepped up to the plate to prevent exploitation, they just haven't bundled that feature into MSE. Yet. You install it separately.

[Yazoo]

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