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Old 12-11-2009, 02:17 PM   #1
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Question 19% of Federal Employees make over $100,000 /yr (not including overtime)

For feds, more get 6-figure salaries
Average pay $30,000 over private sector
By Dennis Cauchon
USA TODAY
The number of federal workers earning six-figure salaries has exploded during the recession, according to a USA TODAY analysis of federal salary data.
Federal employees making salaries of $100,000 or more jumped from 14% to 19% of civil servants during the recession's first 18 months — and that's before overtime pay and bonuses are counted.
Federal workers are enjoying an extraordinary boom time — in pay and hiring — during a recession that has cost 7.3 million jobs in the private sector.
The highest-paid federal employees are doing best of all on salary increases. Defense Department civilian employees earning $150,000 or more increased from 1,868 in December 2007 to 10,100 in June 2009, the most recent figure available.
When the recession started, the Transportation Department had only one person earning a salary of $170,000 or more. Eighteen months later, 1,690 employees had salaries above $170,000.
The trend to six-figure salaries is occurring throughout the federal government, in agencies big and small, high-tech and low-tech. The primary cause: substantial pay raises and new salary rules.
"There's no way to justify this to the American people. It's ridiculous," says Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, a first-term lawmaker who is on the House's federal workforce subcommittee.
Jessica Klement, government affairs director for the Federal Managers Association, says the federal workforce is highly paid because the government employs skilled people such as scientists, physicians and lawyers. She says federal employees make 26% less than private workers for comparable jobs.
USA TODAY analyzed the Office of Personnel Management's database that tracks salaries of more than 2 million federal workers. Excluded from OPM's data: the White House, Congress, the Postal Service, intelligence agencies and uniformed military personnel.
The growth in six-figure salaries has pushed the average federal worker's pay to $71,206, compared with $40,331 in the private sector.





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Old 12-11-2009, 02:19 PM   #4
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Old 12-11-2009, 02:22 PM   #5
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Old 12-11-2009, 02:23 PM   #6
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Old 12-11-2009, 02:24 PM   #7
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What &#37; of the jobs require 15+ years experience and advanced degrees masters, and phd etc? Statistic is irrelevant without that data.
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Old 12-11-2009, 02:25 PM   #9
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I'm not surprised. 100k a year isn't that big a deal anymore. It's not some magical number.
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that's why I'm applying for fed jobs

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Old 12-11-2009, 02:25 PM   #11
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100k in the DC area is middle class. Sounds about average.
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I'm not surprised. 100k a year isn't that big a deal anymore. It's not some magical number.
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Old 12-11-2009, 02:50 PM   #13
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the old mantra was that govt employees make less salary, but get way better benefits (pensions, cadillac healthcare, 7 weeks vacation, etc...)

Now they get all the best benefits AND on average 30 grand more per year.

What a fvcking crock of shlt.
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Old 12-11-2009, 02:54 PM   #14
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Pretty good salary. They're right up to ATOT standards.
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Old 12-11-2009, 02:55 PM   #15
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This is what is shocking to me:
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When the recession started, the Transportation Department had only one person earning a salary of $170,000 or more. Eighteen months later, 1,690 employees had salaries above $170,000.
Seriously? At a time when people in the private industry are getting laid off, pay is being cut, and our national debt is skyrocketing?
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Pretty good salary. They're right up to ATOT standards.
Nah, $200,000 is the new $100,000. Or at least it was a few years ago around here. It's possible that $300,000 is the new $200,000 by now though.
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the old mantra was that govt employees make less salary, but get way better benefits (pensions, cadillac healthcare, 7 weeks vacation, etc...)

Now they get all the best benefits AND on average 30 grand more per year.

What a fvcking crock of shlt.
Generally you're still going to be making less in a government job than a comparable corporate one.
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Old 12-11-2009, 03:16 PM   #18
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Means nothing for people just starting out. There are no entry-level government positions out there that don't have someone lined up who was specifically recruited. My goal is to get a few years corporate experience and go public sector for that $30,000 boost.
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Old 12-11-2009, 03:18 PM   #19
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I remember a time govt jobs was where people went that couldn't make it in private sector, they paid less too. Now it's the place to be.
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I remember a time govt jobs was where people went that couldn't make it in private sector, they paid less too. Now it's the place to be.
Probably not, but even the Government need qualified people to do the work, if they didn't have that you'd be complaining about that instead.
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My girl works for the gubment. Nice hefty salary but her benefits are INSANE. Awesome pension/retirement and gold plated health insurance. So she easily has 30K a year if not more in benefits alone.

And she doesn't pay SS tax.
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Little story about my time at DOD. We used to have loading doc workers at Nevada test site, retired military so they were drawing that too, making 80K a year just to sit there and read magazines and every once and a while a load would come in. They wouldn't get off their chair even. Made driver come to their office usually browsing the net and unload truck himself with the help of a few part time lackeys, also making a decent $18 an hour. I bet this warehouse supervisors make over 100K now.
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We are fueling the political class and asking for second helpings.
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This story has zero context. Since most people w/ federal jobs live in DC, of course their wages are going to be higher becauase the cost of living there is through the roof. Compare their salaries to private sector jobs in the SAME CITY. Bet you're not going to see that discrepancy. In fact, its probably the other way around (private making more than public)
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Yes, the government employs a lot of skilled workers like scientists. However, we scientists aren't making 6 figures - our non-technical administrators are. They are given incentive to create new and exciting ways to make us spend more time doing paperwork and training and less time doing research.
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