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Lifer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Newnan, GA USA
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Originally Posted by silverpig
It isn't showing up for me, but I am 95% sure the recent leak is the same as the final 10.1. I think I already have it.
What network are you on? I know Bell's is live, but I'm on Rogers.
My OS version is 10.1.0.1762
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Wow. Really? I can't believe the network controls who gets the updates.
Doing it wrong...
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05-15-2013, 06:52 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Originally Posted by Ichinisan
Wow. Really? I can't believe the network controls who gets the updates.
Doing it wrong...
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Isn't apple the only one doing it right that can push updates directly to the hardware.
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05-15-2013, 07:52 AM
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Lifer
Join Date: Oct 2002
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Originally Posted by Makaveli
Isn't apple the only one doing it right that can push updates directly to the hardware.
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Maybe. I think Microsoft might be doing it right. (Not sure)
Blackberry is in a similar situation to Apple. They control both the hardware and software. In the interest of rolling-out important security fixes ASAP, updates shouldn't involve the network provider. Only the device owner or the employer that deployed the device should have any control over this.
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05-15-2013, 08:12 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Rock Hill, SC
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Apple has complete control of when updates are pushed out, but don't think the updates aren't tested by carriers first before Apple pushes them.
Google pushes out updates for the unlocked Nexus devices.
Everything else seems to be determined by the carriers, including branded Nexus devices.
In the US, of course. I don't know how it's handled in other markets.
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05-15-2013, 08:19 AM
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Lifer
Join Date: Apr 2000
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BBM coming to Android and ios, good or bad?
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05-15-2013, 09:22 AM
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Lifer
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Toronto, ON
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Originally Posted by Ichinisan
Wow. Really? I can't believe the network controls who gets the updates.
Doing it wrong...
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Sort of.
If there is a change to the radio code / drivers, then the carriers have to test and approve it. Apparently there are radio code updates in this version so the carriers are involved.
But yes, BB does have the ability to push out OS updates so long as they don't affect the physical network.
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05-15-2013, 10:04 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2002
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Originally Posted by silverpig
Sort of.
If there is a change to the radio code / drivers, then the carriers have to test and approve it. Apparently there are radio code updates in this version so the carriers are involved.
But yes, BB does have the ability to push out OS updates so long as they don't affect the physical network.
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Therefore it would make sense for the carriers to test them.
At the end of the day blackberry doesn't run or support the Rogers or bell network.
So if I was a carrier I would also be testing out the updates before just rolling them out to thousands of end users. Cause if Blackberry missed something in that update and its just released everyone will be calling Rogers and Bell not blackberry for support.
I understand people are annoyed with the delays but you have to look at both sides of the issue.
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05-15-2013, 11:19 AM
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Lifer
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Toronto, ON
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Originally Posted by Makaveli
Therefore it would make sense for the carriers to test them.
At the end of the day blackberry doesn't run or support the Rogers or bell network.
So if I was a carrier I would also be testing out the updates before just rolling them out to thousands of end users. Cause if Blackberry missed something in that update and its just released everyone will be calling Rogers and Bell not blackberry for support.
I understand people are annoyed with the delays but you have to look at both sides of the issue.
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Yep.
Also, now with QNX, BB has the ability to produce OS updates that are independent of radio driver updates. BB can update the OS all they want without having to go through the carriers, and can update the radio software in separate carrier-pushed updates.
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Yesterday, 09:07 AM
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Platinum Member
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Originally Posted by s44
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Good review one mistake I saw he says it has 1GB of ram when it has 2GB.
The other concern is he is using a verzion phone which is still stuck on a older version of the OS.
The rest of us on Rogers and bell network some in Europe are already using the 10.1 software update which fixes some of the issues he list in the review. Using a Z10 in the states with their carriers it not the same as being in Canada we don't get the massive delays for os updates.
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