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11-06-2012, 02:41 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 621
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lazarus52980
Here, I will make my vote public to make you feel better. I voted for Mitt Romney. There, my vote is public too. Feel better now?
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that is your choice. my choice is: it's no ones business but my own who i vote for.
stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
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11-06-2012, 02:45 PM
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Elite Member
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 23,211
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Originally Posted by amdhunter
That's it. 5-10 minutes max. I spent an insane amount of time to vote this year, just for my right to an anonymous vote to be thrown in the trash? Something is VERY wrong this year.
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Woah woah woah - when did we start having a right to an anonymous vote? Is this some new amendment I missed?
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11-06-2012, 02:51 PM
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#28
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 621
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SagaLore
Woah woah woah - when did we start having a right to an anonymous vote? Is this some new amendment I missed?
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really? why do you think they say YOU put the card in the machine? it's because of your right to vote who you wish to vote for, without anyone knowing. it's ALWAYS been anonymous.
i really hope my sarcasm meter is broken.
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11-06-2012, 03:06 PM
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#29
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Golden Member
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: North Idaho
Posts: 1,546
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Quote:
Originally Posted by amdhunter
Every Election prior to this, they'd look up my name, put a check next to it, or I'd initial, and I'd go into a booth to vote.
That's it. 5-10 minutes max. I spent an insane amount of time to vote this year, just for my right to an anonymous vote to be thrown in the trash? Something is VERY wrong this year.
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If I had arrived at your polling place 5 minutes before you, claimed to be you and signed your initials there would be nothing to stop me. How does that lame system you advocate make for honest elections?
If we don't force voters to prove who they are and that they are entitled to vote before they do so then the whole election is a sham. And we must associate that information with the actual ballot through the entire vote counting process, or anyone could stuff the box with as many fraudulent ballots as they wanted to because we would have no way to track that they were valid.
And none of this means your individual vote will be made public. You want anonymous voting to protect you, but anonymous voting cannot exist without invalidating the entire voting process. Anyone could vote anywhere, as many times as they wanted. Which is pretty much what we have now.
Either you are trolling (imagine that!) or you are letting your overgrown sense of victimization get in the way of your common sense.
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11-06-2012, 03:10 PM
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Golden Member
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: North Idaho
Posts: 1,546
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Quote:
Originally Posted by herrjimbo
really? why do you think they say YOU put the card in the machine? it's because of your right to vote who you wish to vote for, without anyone knowing. it's ALWAYS been anonymous.
i really hope my sarcasm meter is broken.
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No, your common sense is. If votes were anonymous, and we had no way to know who put them in the ballot box, then the only safeguard we would have over the process would be the honesty and diligence of our noble volunteer poll workers. <---Now there's some sarcasm for you.
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11-06-2012, 03:39 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 621
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paladin3
No, your common sense is. If votes were anonymous, and we had no way to know who put them in the ballot box, then the only safeguard we would have over the process would be the honesty and diligence of our noble volunteer poll workers. <---Now there's some sarcasm for you.
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you missed my point. i totally agree that an id should be shown, just to make sure who you are and can only do it once. the anonymous part is after that.
now that we know who is voting, it's no ones business who we vote for. hope that clears up the confusion.
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11-06-2012, 03:45 PM
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Lifer
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 11,312
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It's probably not fraud, but might be some sort of crime relating to tampering.
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11-06-2012, 03:45 PM
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#33
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Lifer
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: duh, winning!
Posts: 20,889
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Haven't voted on paper in about 6 years.
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11-06-2012, 03:46 PM
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#34
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Diamond Member
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 3,260
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Just checked your voter identification number online AMD, apparently you voted for Bieber.... the shame.
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11-06-2012, 03:54 PM
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Diamond Member
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Lawrence Kansas
Posts: 7,070
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I had to show my ID for the first time in Lawrence today and thanked them for that. It helps to cut down on voter fraud. Plus, once they find you you voted for Obama, they can laugh at you and post funny pics of you doing things with cats on facebook.
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11-06-2012, 04:00 PM
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#36
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Lifer
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Baltimore, MD
Posts: 22,987
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxPayne63
read the OP again. He also had to record who he voted for.
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Nope, OP is trying to stretch the truth. They made him record his ID and the unique ballot number. The only way that they'll be able to figure out who he voted for is if the guy who collected the cards broke into the locked ballot box and matched the ballot number to the card. Which won't happen. OP needs to chill out and take his meds.
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Originally Posted by slag
I had to show my ID for the first time in Lawrence today and thanked them for that. It helps to cut down on voters.
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FTFY, voter fraud is practically non-existent.
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11-06-2012, 04:02 PM
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#37
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Lifer
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Flushing, NY
Posts: 17,293
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Quote:
Originally Posted by herrjimbo
they might as well have two lines for voting. "obama step up to line 1, and romney step up to line 2".
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that would be awesome lol.
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11-06-2012, 04:07 PM
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Lifer
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Bronx, NY
Posts: 21,451
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jagec
Nope, OP is trying to stretch the truth. They made him record his ID and the unique ballot number.
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Yeah, this is what they did. I don't ever remember them recording my ballot number before (because it didn't exist.)
I thought once you signed in, that was it. There was never a way to tie the information on who you voted for prior to this year.
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11-06-2012, 04:45 PM
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#39
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Diamond Member
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 5,291
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Gov Cuomo announced that NYS residents can vote at any election booth in the state. I assume what you experienced was the only way they could come up with at a moments notice to prevent people from voting multiple times in different locations.
Not sure if the methods you ran into used to ID voters are legal or illegal, but all that will come of any major criticism or lawsuits will be "this wasn't planned for. we're putting proper procedures in place in case this even occurs again."
Last edited by Lifted; 11-06-2012 at 04:47 PM.
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