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02-20-2013, 12:00 PM
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Lifer
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Originally Posted by Red Storm
The 4 seemed like more of a stopgap to unify the devices with the new charging cable.
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The 4 is actually quite a significant upgrade in terms of the SoC. It's much, much faster.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6472/i...-2012-review/3
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It makes more sense that it was a one time thing, rather than Apple moving to a bi-annual release schedule.
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Indeed, with the shift of the annual schedule to Q3 / Q4, perfect timing for Xmas.
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02-20-2013, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Red Storm
Because the new one is only a month away. It doesn't matter what you're buying it for, it's stupid to buy one now. Don't even have to buy the new one, buy the 4 at a discount just by waiting a month. Advocating anything else is just bad advice.
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You're right. I had read your post as one of those 'Oh noes, Apple released a new version of product I bought 6 months ago, now it's totally obsolete!!' sort of things. But cautioning waiting to see if they release a new one on the same schedule as they have had in the past is good advice.
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02-20-2013, 01:40 PM
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Thanks all, I ended up with a MS surface. I think it can (mostly) replace my ipad.
And, as a bonus, I'll have no problem getting 5 years of general use out of it.
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02-20-2013, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by SpatiallyAware
Thanks all, I ended up with a MS surface. I think it can (mostly) replace my ipad.
And, as a bonus, I'll have no problem getting 5 years of general use out of it.
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That will be interesting to see. Who knows what we'll have in 5 years.
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02-20-2013, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by SpatiallyAware
Thanks all, I ended up with a MS surface. I think it can (mostly) replace my ipad.
And, as a bonus, I'll have no problem getting 5 years of general use out of it.
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Surface RT or Surface Pro? I assume the RT since it is in the same price range. Good luck with it, it is a nice looking piece of kit.
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Originally Posted by mfenn
The 6770M can play Crysis 2, for suitably small values of play
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02-20-2013, 02:15 PM
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Lifer
Join Date: Mar 2000
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Originally Posted by SpatiallyAware
Thanks all, I ended up with a MS surface. I think it can (mostly) replace my ipad.
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Replace for basic iPad use yes, but it will be an interesting experience. A friend of mine just bought one because he needs it to test his websites, but he hates it. Mind you he's Apple-biased, but then again he likes Windows Phone 8 so he's not anti-Metro by any means.
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And, as a bonus, I'll have no problem getting 5 years of general use out of it.
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Good luck.
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02-20-2013, 02:16 PM
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Lifer
Join Date: Oct 2002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Storm
That will be interesting to see. Who knows what we'll have in 5 years.
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Yeah, definitely a bold statement on a first gen Microsoft Surface device.
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02-20-2013, 02:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Storm
That will be interesting to see. Who knows what we'll have in 5 years.
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Even *if* I upgrade to windows 9, I can always recover it back to windows 8 and get the same performance as when it was brand new.
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02-20-2013, 02:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheStu
Surface RT or Surface Pro? I assume the RT since it is in the same price range. Good luck with it, it is a nice looking piece of kit.
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Pro. It was $250 more than an ipad for the 128gb.
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02-20-2013, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by SpatiallyAware
Even *if* I upgrade to windows 9, I can always recover it back to windows 8 and get the same performance as when it was brand new.
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Well Windows is moving to annual releases apparently so it'll be more like Windows 13. 
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02-20-2013, 03:23 PM
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Lifer
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Originally Posted by SpatiallyAware
Pro. It was $250 more than an ipad for the 128gb.
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??? Are you comparing apples to apples (no pun intended)? A 128GB iPad is $929. A 128GB Surface Pro is $999. And that 128GB Pro is more like an 84GB Pro (84GB of usable space right out of the box).
So yeah, let me know how that Pro holds up for you even 2 years down the line. For some reason, I feel another rant thread being created in the very near future.
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02-20-2013, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by JackBurton
??? Are you comparing apples to apples (no pun intended)? A 128GB iPad is $929. A 128GB Surface Pro is $999. And that 128GB Pro is more like an 84GB Pro (84GB of usable space right out of the box).
So yeah, let me know how that Pro holds up for you even 2 years down the line. For some reason, I feel another rant thread being created in the very near future.
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Rant thread based on what? It's really no different than a regular windows laptop, which btw last at LEAST 5 years, particularly for web browsing and email.
80+ Gb of usable space is plenty, especially when compared to an ipad which will only hold pictures and music, oh and can't be expected to last more than 3 years.
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02-20-2013, 03:30 PM
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Lifer
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Originally Posted by SpatiallyAware
Rant thread based on what? It's really no different than a regular windows laptop, which btw last at LEAST 5 years, particularly for web browsing and email.
80+ Gb of usable space is plenty, especially when compared to an ipad which will only hold pictures and music, oh and can't be expected to last more than 3 years.
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You let me know how that works out for you.
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02-20-2013, 04:43 PM
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Lifer
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Originally Posted by SpatiallyAware
Pro. It was $250 more than an ipad for the 128gb.
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/thumbs up. At least you got the Pro. I'm thiiiiiis close to pulling the trigger on it. I just want the NEXT Pro.... that or the one AFTER that. 
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02-20-2013, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by dave_the_nerd
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That works on the original iPhone, the iPhone 3G, and the original iPod Touch, not the original iPad. Also, I installed that on my old original iPhone to check it out last year, and it was terrible.
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02-23-2013, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by SpatiallyAware
I have been 'burned' by ios updates forcing a device into being obsolete twice now. Once a long time ago with an iphone 3g/3gs, and again recently with my ipad:
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Define obsolete. My 3GS is running 6.1.2 just fine...
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Originally Posted by Atty
The life of an Apple mobile device is 2 years. You can absolutely keep them longer than that but you are nearly guaranteed to not see any day to day performance drop in the first two years. After that
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Since when it is a 2 year life span? If that's the assumption, you can also assume that Apple wouldn't bother with updates for that HW. As the 3GS is nearly four years old...and still getting updates...and still works...and still works just as well as it did four years ago, I'd say that's a SWAG and certainly not based in reality.
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02-23-2013, 12:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JackBurton
??? Are you comparing apples to apples (no pun intended)? A 128GB iPad is $929. A 128GB Surface Pro is $999. And that 128GB Pro is more like an 84GB Pro (84GB of usable space right out of the box).
So yeah, let me know how that Pro holds up for you even 2 years down the line. For some reason, I feel another rant thread being created in the very near future.
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Well, to be fair you should mention that the Surface Pro has a micro SD memory card slot, just saying.
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02-23-2013, 09:30 PM
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Can the original iPad with 3G be used for GPS navigation with Google Maps?
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02-24-2013, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by fr
Can the original iPad with 3G be used for GPS navigation with Google Maps?
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No. You can get basic directions, but if you want turn-by-turn, you need an iPad 4 with Siri and Apple Maps (which actually works half decent - I ran it side by side with my Garmin in Phoenix, and both offered roughly the same directions).
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02-25-2013, 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by fr
Can the original iPad with 3G be used for GPS navigation with Google Maps?
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with the google maps app from the app store, i believe turn by turn directions are included within the app itself. it works on the 3GS and 4, so i dont see why the original ipad should get left out! i think the app requires iOS 5.1.1 which it supports
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