Girl flips judge the bird gets 30 days - Page 5

MagnusTheBrewer · 02-09-2013, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Corporate Thug

I don't think the judge was out of line, but there are rules of conduct for judges too (in CA, a judge must act at all times in a manner that promotes public confidence in the integrity and impartiality of the judiciary; is required to perform judicial duties without bias or prejudice, including engaging in speech or other conduct that would reasonably be perceived as bias or prejudice, etc.)

The thing is judges 'interpret' those rules and neither you or I get a say.

WelshBloke · 02-09-2013, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by TheNinja

OK, well that might explain it a bit more. If the judge doubled her bail and then gave her 30 days b/c she said "Adios" and then flipped him the bird, that's a little excessive. The judge should be man enough not to let some arrogant brat get under his skin. However if he gave her repeated warnings and she still acted like that, then maybe this will help her learn.

The level of bail isn't supposed to be used as a punishment.

Lepton87 · 02-09-2013, 05:59 AM

I think she should be allowed to take as much Xanax as she wants, she's not harming anyone. I took Xanax and wouldn't even call it a drug, it just makes you less nervous if you don't have anxiety issues if you do it also relieves that. In high doses it can also make you sleepy, big deal. Alcohol affects your behavior WAY more just like THC. Our freedom is diminishing very fast.

zanejohnson · 02-09-2013, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Lepton87

I think she should be allowed to take as much Xanax as she wants, she's not harming anyone. I took Xanax and wouldn't even call it a drug, it just makes you less nervous if you don't have anxiety issues if you do it also relieves that. In high doses it can also make you sleepy, big deal. Alcohol affects your behavior WAY more just like THC. Our freedom is diminishing very fast.

yep this right here..

she's the victim here, of the faux drug war in this country... which is in disguise just a way for private prisons to profit, and an attempt to prop up our totally corrupt medical industry by creating fake competition between big pharma and the black market..

she is the victim here.

sixone · 02-09-2013, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by WelshBloke

The level of bail isn't supposed to be used as a punishment.

It wasn't punishment. He was trying to teach her that she got herself into some serious trouble, in the only way he's allowed. Criminal court is not a joke or a party place, as he explained to her.

She got the message. Hopefully, it'll persuade her to get the help she so desperately needs, and she won't be back with new charges.

sixone · 02-09-2013, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by zanejohnson

yep this right here..

she's the victim here, of the faux drug war in this country... which is in disguise just a way for private prisons to profit, and an attempt to prop up our totally corrupt medical industry by creating fake competition between big pharma and the black market..

she is the victim here.

Horsefeathers. She made her choices, and these are the consequences.

sourceninja · 02-09-2013, 08:19 AM

The lawyer in that picture looks like the kind of guy I'd want to represent me...or a homeless man in a suit, I'm not sure which.

GagHalfrunt · 02-09-2013, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by MagnusTheBrewer

The thing is judges 'interpret' those rules and neither you or I get a say.

On the contrary, we do get a say, albeit in a roundabout way. Judges on that level are appointed by politicians and those politicians are slaves to public opinion. If a judge embarrasses his court with a flippant attitude towards his job and the video gets out the people who watch the video get a say in what happens next. There was enough controversy about the unprofessional way that he handled that situation that it's fairly likely that the mayor or councilman who controls who gets that position wanted this taken care of quickly and amicably.

MagnusTheBrewer · 02-09-2013, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by GagHalfrunt

On the contrary, we do get a say, albeit in a roundabout way. Judges on that level are appointed by politicians and those politicians are slaves to public opinion. If a judge embarrasses his court with a flippant attitude towards his job and the video gets out the people who watch the video get a say in what happens next. There was enough controversy about the unprofessional way that he handled that situation that it's fairly likely that the mayor or councilman who controls who gets that position wanted this taken care of quickly and amicably.

In the meantime, you're STILL going to spend 30 days in the hole. Amending or vacating a judges decision in as little as a month is lightning fast. And, the behavior of this judge comes nowhere near the level for any such reaction.

GagHalfrunt · 02-09-2013, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by MagnusTheBrewer

In the meantime, you're STILL going to spend 30 days in the hole. Amending or vacating a judges decision in as little as a month is lightning fast. And, the behavior of this judge comes nowhere near the level for any such reaction.

WTF is talking about vacating a decision? Councilman sees video, councilman sees shitstorm building, councilman calls judge and says "if I see you acting like that on video again my idiot brother-in-law gets your post and you go back to chasing ambulances. Now make this go away..."

*poof* it goes away. Everyone is going to cover their own ass and while the people who appoint judges don't give a damn about the cases they most assuredly care about bad press that could splatter back onto them.

zanejohnson · 02-09-2013, 11:06 AM

i'd say he violated the constitution...

used bond as a form of cruel and unusual punishment...

not fit to uphold the law.

MagnusTheBrewer · 02-09-2013, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by GagHalfrunt

WTF is talking about vacating a decision? Councilman sees video, councilman sees shitstorm building, councilman calls judge and says "if I see you acting like that on video again my idiot brother-in-law gets your post and you go back to chasing ambulances. Now make this go away..."

*poof* it goes away. Everyone is going to cover their own ass and while the people who appoint judges don't give a damn about the cases they most assuredly care about bad press that could splatter back onto them.

First, not every place has a political machine in the way you describe. Second, in the places that do, do you REALLY think the social media has that kind of power in the time frame were talking about? In those places, money talks not, public opinion.

This just in, the majority of folks don't make decisions based on social media, the majority of folks don't even consider social media period. How many people do anything other than whine online? In short, I think you vastly overrate the influence of social media because next week there will be another event to grab the attention of folks who live online.

sixone · 02-09-2013, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by GagHalfrunt

On the contrary, we do get a say, albeit in a roundabout way. Judges on that level are appointed by politicians and those politicians are slaves to public opinion. If a judge embarrasses his court with a flippant attitude towards his job and the video gets out the people who watch the video get a say in what happens next. There was enough controversy about the unprofessional way that he handled that situation that it's fairly likely that the mayor or councilman who controls who gets that position wanted this taken care of quickly and amicably.

Five minutes on Google would have educated you out of this fantasy you've created.

Judges in the Miami-Dade circuit court are elected to six-year terms. This particular judge comes up for reelection in 2017. By then, no one will remember his name.

_Rick_ · 02-09-2013, 12:36 PM

Maybe this requires a judge-wiki, where such information is made available to the public, and rendered unforgettable.

Capt Caveman · 02-09-2013, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by zanejohnson

yeah she's totally cute, imagine her in lingerie.. imagine her hair down, in a thong, no bra, and fishnets... yeah.. she's hot..

this judge is just a angry white man, probably rapes children, probably goes to his little southern baptist church, where he talks to the other men, who also rape boys, and are high up in the community.. that's the world guys.. dont ignore it.

this girl was just expressing her disgust in "the system" and she should.. it's everything wrong with the current status quo world that we know..

so what she took some fucking xanax's.. omfg.. i bet that judge has some in his system right now.

Good to see that you dope heads stick together.

Capt Caveman · 02-09-2013, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by zanejohnson

i'd say he violated the constitution...

used bond as a form of cruel and unusual punishment...

not fit to uphold the law.

kage69 · 02-09-2013, 01:54 PM

I have zero sympathy for people who mouth off to judges. Outright insults? lol,

Actually kind of weak compared to what some judges do to those who want to argue, she probably would have gotten worse had she been an adult.

zanejohnson · 02-09-2013, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by kage69

I have zero sympathy for people who mouth off to judges. Outright insults? lol,

Actually kind of weak compared to what some judges do to those who want to argue, she probably would have gotten worse had she been an adult.

she is an adult... she was in county jail..

Corporate Thug · 02-09-2013, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MagnusTheBrewer

The thing is judges 'interpret' those rules and neither you or I get a say.

Incorrect again. You can do the research for your state, but CA as a committee that handles judicial complaints:

http://cjp.ca.gov/

...and here is a list of public reprimands:

http://cjp.ca.gov/pub_discipline_and_decisions.htm

BUTCH1 · 02-09-2013, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TheNinja

B/c hardened criminals have been in/around the courts for a long time. They know the drill and the consequences if you don't act a certain way

Some people may have very little respect for authority or may not even realize the seriousness of court/judges. Some of it is based on their upbringing, some of it is just kids being kids. You think she should be tazed b/c she flipped off a judge and said F you?? The judge is there to make sure justice is served, not act like a pompous ass.

I agree she needs to be taught respect and manners but this seems a little extreme for a girl who had a momentary lapse in judgement who clearly has an addiction/substance abuse issue.

Yea, OK, tased is a little over the top but IDK how she can't understand that kind of disrespect can be trouble..

s0me0nesmind1 · 02-09-2013, 05:50 PM

to be honest, I love the judge provoking for more. If you're dumb enough to fall for it - you deserve more. I just wish they would contribute more money instead of contribute to taking my tax dollars rotting in a prison.

BUTCH1 · 02-09-2013, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by s0me0nesmind1

to be honest, I love the judge provoking for more. If you're dumb enough to fall for it - you deserve more. I just wish they would contribute more money instead of contribute to taking my tax dollars rotting in a prison.

I agree, she should have gotten like 7 days and 175 hrs community service..

WelshBloke · 02-10-2013, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by sixone

It wasn't punishment. He was trying to teach her that she got herself into some serious trouble, in the only way he's allowed. Criminal court is not a joke or a party place, as he explained to her.

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The level of bail isn't supposed to be used to teach someone a lesson either.

AmdEmAll · 02-10-2013, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Lepton87

I think she should be allowed to take as much Xanax as she wants, she's not harming anyone. I took Xanax and wouldn't even call it a drug, it just makes you less nervous if you don't have anxiety issues if you do it also relieves that. In high doses it can also make you sleepy, big deal. Alcohol affects your behavior WAY more just like THC. Our freedom is diminishing very fast.

Yes but the withdrawal symptoms are absolute hell depending on your dosage.

Oh and this chick is smoking hot... so tiny.

OBLAMA2009 · 03-04-2013, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by AmdEmAll

Yes but the withdrawal symptoms are absolute hell depending on your dosage.

Oh and this chick is smoking hot... so tiny.

yeah she it pretty cute. heres what she looks outside of jail:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-attitude.html

solid 6