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02-07-2013, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Incorruptible
That is not what I was talking about, Were you not there when they burned the Poppy or when they protested for sharia
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So you disagree with the first amendment? Any of our other rights that you would like to see repealed?
Why the hell shouldn't they be allowed to protest for whatever the hell they want so long as they follow the law? Let them protest for Sharia all they want and lets see where it gets them here in the US. Sure burning poppy may offend people but so do those asshole Christians who go protest at fallen soldiers funerals.
Our rights are not guaranteed to protect what is popular because that is almost always granted since it is popular. It is the protection of those rights when they are used in an unpopular way that is the true test of said rights worth.
Frankly, you are starting to sound just as un-American as them.
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02-07-2013, 05:44 PM
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#77
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Diamond Member
Join Date: Dec 2006
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Originally Posted by zinfamous
pssst: you mean it isn't obvious to you that our very own POTUS is a secret mooslim terrist?

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Duhhhh, everyone knows this.
Ok, don't tell anyone I told you this, ok? I am secretly on his side awaiting the glorious day when he implements Sharia so I can have a whole litter of women that must obey me. Oh man I can't wait for the orgies with me and my 6 (at least right? maybe 8-10 eventually) wives.
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?The church says the earth is flat, but I know that it is round, for I have seen the shadow on the moon, and I have more faith in a shadow than in the church?
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02-07-2013, 05:47 PM
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#78
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Lifer
Join Date: Nov 1999
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What's the OP going to do when he discovers that the Government brought in Nazis in the aftermath of WWII to build the space program?
\brain s'ploadin! Scanner-style!
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"brevity is the soul of wit."
schadenfreude is magically delicious
Last edited by UberNeuman; 02-07-2013 at 06:06 PM.
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02-07-2013, 06:31 PM
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#79
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Lifer
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: ☭
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No way, the state department and Comrade Obama are ours. The grand socialist commie conspiracy still has the patents on his pharoh DNA, we even cloned him. Step off our victory.
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02-08-2013, 01:28 PM
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#80
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Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: London, Ontario
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Originally Posted by MomentsofSanity
I have no problem with anyone using free speech. Considering all the posts you've tried to make about free speech you should fully defend their right to do so.
Or is this just another in your long line of failures in knowing what free speech is? Or is it another in your long line of Muslims should not have the rights you advocate for others?
It's really getting hard to keep track of all your hypocritical bullshit.
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Still waiting... I'm certain you'd want to clarify your apparent hypocrisy given how many times you've advocated for limitless freedom of speech.
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02-08-2013, 02:01 PM
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#81
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Diamond Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 6,234
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Darwin333
So you disagree with the first amendment? Any of our other rights that you would like to see repealed?
Why the hell shouldn't they be allowed to protest for whatever the hell they want so long as they follow the law? Let them protest for Sharia all they want and lets see where it gets them here in the US. Sure burning poppy may offend people but so do those asshole Christians who go protest at fallen soldiers funerals.
Our rights are not guaranteed to protect what is popular because that is almost always granted since it is popular. It is the protection of those rights when they are used in an unpopular way that is the true test of said rights worth.
Frankly, you are starting to sound just as un-American as them.
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I have defended the 1st Amendment adamantly and dont support restricting it but you're forgetting that the US Constitution doesn't apply to England. Also how come you didn't mention the cases in Europe where people had free speech violated
This article has some cases of free speech under attack
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...nt-free-speech
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02-08-2013, 02:09 PM
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#82
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Platinum Member
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: London, Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Incorruptible
I have defended the 1st Amendment adamantly and dont support restricting it but you're forgetting that the US Constitution doesn't apply to England. Also how come you didn't mention the cases in Europe where people had free speech violated
This article has some cases of free speech under attack
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...nt-free-speech
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1st Amendment doesn't apply in Canada but...
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthre...=speech+canada
Oh wait. I see it. That was someone acting AGAINST Muslims.
Still haven't explained why you are advocating to limit free speech for Muslims.
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02-08-2013, 02:15 PM
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#83
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Diamond Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MomentsofSanity
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Yes, In that case I didn't mention the 1st Amendment but just free speech which every country should have.
The group of radicals in England burned a Poppy on November 11, does that not seem wrong to you?
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02-08-2013, 02:17 PM
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No Lifer
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Bay Area
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burned a Poppy? I still don't get it.
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brianmanahan: zinfamous is such a fool
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02-08-2013, 02:17 PM
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#85
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Platinum Member
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Location: London, Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Incorruptible
Yes, In that case I didn't mention the 1st Amendment but just free speech which every country should have.
The group of radicals in England burned a Poppy on November 11, does that not seem wrong to you?
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Right or wrong morally is not relevant. They have every right to do it, don't they?
Again, are you saying that the Muslims you are ranting about should not have had the right to express themselves in that way? It's a simple yes or no answer.
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02-08-2013, 02:22 PM
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Diamond Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zinfamous
burned a Poppy? I still don't get it.
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Remembrance Day in England they burned a Poppy
Here you go
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poppy
Last edited by Incorruptible; 02-08-2013 at 02:24 PM.
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02-08-2013, 02:26 PM
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#87
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No Lifer
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Bay Area
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Incorruptible
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how is this possibly something that anyone could ever get worked-up over?
we know you hate muslims and would rather they all live in cages in a zoo or a museum, but try to be a little less obvious with your hypocrisy when trying to advocate free speech for everyone (except brown people).
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PAB: My dad blew a tranny. I've been asked to see if I can get one replaced free.
brianmanahan: zinfamous is such a fool
he's known as AT:OT's tool
mentally he's such a klutz
his head is made of 50 butts
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02-08-2013, 02:29 PM
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#88
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Diamond Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 6,234
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zinfamous
how is this possibly something that anyone could ever get worked-up over?
we know you hate muslims and would rather they all live in cages in a zoo or a museum, but try to be a little less obvious with your hypocrisy when trying to advocate free speech for everyone (except brown people).
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Do you what the significance of the Poppy is? It is worn on Remembrance Day
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02-08-2013, 02:33 PM
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Golden Member
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Wa.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zinfamous
how is this possibly something that anyone could ever get worked-up over?
we know you hate muslims and would rather they all live in cages in a zoo or a museum, but try to be a little less obvious with your hypocrisy when trying to advocate free speech for everyone (except brown people).
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I'm not sure you're getting it...
They. Burned. A. Poppy.
...and were probably recruited by the State Dept. to do so.
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02-08-2013, 02:36 PM
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#90
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Platinum Member
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Location: London, Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Incorruptible
Do you what the significance of the Poppy is? It is worn on Remembrance Day
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You are just going to dodge this entirely aren't you?
Again, do you not agree that these Muslims had every right to burn the poppy if they wanted to?
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02-08-2013, 02:38 PM
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#91
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No Lifer
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Bay Area
Posts: 53,807
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Incorruptible
Do you what the significance of the Poppy is? It is worn on Remembrance Day
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Do you know the significance of the American flag?
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PAB: My dad blew a tranny. I've been asked to see if I can get one replaced free.
brianmanahan: zinfamous is such a fool
he's known as AT:OT's tool
mentally he's such a klutz
his head is made of 50 butts
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02-08-2013, 03:15 PM
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#92
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Platinum Member
Join Date: Jul 2000
Posts: 2,724
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Incorruptible
Do you what the significance of the Poppy is? It is worn on Remembrance Day
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There is nothing wrong whatsoever about burning a poppy. Except to fascists like yourself.
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